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What rims are you lacing, normal grown up 20's or the nipper verions at 1 3/8th's or 1 1/8th?If 1.5 or 1.75 then I think for a 3 or 4 cross the 194mm will doBiagio has got them on offer at £10 for 100http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-BMX-ASAHI-194-mm-SPOKES-NIPPLES-LOW-PRICE_W0QQitemZ300083641990QQihZ020QQcategoryZ33503QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem