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And here's why.....From Vintage bmx.comThis post also explains why some of the early unstamped Tuf necks square stems carried a decal of what later became the Pro Neck Bulldog.Heres the text of the sidebar in the December '80 BMXA which asks the same question..."PRO-NECK AND TUF-NECK: AN IDENTITY CONFLICTTwo identical stems: the Pro-Neck and the Tuf-Neck Pro-Model. They both even use animals with studded collars in their logos. But they are manufactured by totally different companies.Pretty confusing, hey?This sidebar is a careful, hopefully objective, short history of how this came to be. Oversimplified, of course.First there was Bakton Enterprises, the original designer and manufacturer of the original Tuf-Neck stem.Then came a company called Superbyke which, in addition to its own products, purchased Tuf-Neck stems from Bakton Enterprises and marketed and distributed them.But SUperbyke's management was not exactly clickin', and the company went down the tubes.Whereupon one of the investors in Superbyke formed a new company and made arrangements with Bakton to purchase, market, and distribute Tuf-Neck stems. This new company was called Tuf-Neck, Inc.Are you with us so far? This is where the plot thickens.All this was cool until the defunct Superbyke company was purchased.At this point the new owner began marketing and distributing an identical Tuf-Neck stem - not manufactured by Bakton - along with their other products.This, of course, created a multitude of identity problems what with two companies advertising and distributing identical stems with identical names but manufactured by different companies.So Tuf-Neck, Inc and Bakton Enterprises changed the design of their stem by radiusing the corners, and changed the name of the stem to Pro-Neck.At this point the situation was thus: The Pro-Neck was distributed by Tuf-Neck, Inc., and the Tuf-Neck was distributed by Superbyke. Which wouldn't do at all. So Tuf-Neck, Inc. changed its name to Pro-Neck, Inc. and the identity conflict eased somewhat.Until Superbyke came out with a newer version of the Tuf-Neck - with radiused corners, called the Pro-model Tuf-Neck.Ah...what terrible tangled webs we weave. - Bob Osborn"Reading this again myself just made me click about the double add taken out in one of the old bmx actions.I thought when i 1st saw this, "why would two rival companies take out a joint add "I realised the add was letting everyone know about the change from tuf neck to pro neck and nothing to do with tuf neck who started to carry the tuf neck tiger
Really good thread here - glynnyboy offers up some great info on both companies - than man knows his onions http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=144592.msg1416300#msg1416300Quote from: glynnyboy on May 07, 2012, 01:28 PMAnd here's why.....From Vintage bmx.comThis post also explains why some of the early unstamped Tuf necks square stems carried a decal of what later became the Pro Neck Bulldog.Heres the text of the sidebar in the December '80 BMXA which asks the same question..."PRO-NECK AND TUF-NECK: AN IDENTITY CONFLICTTwo identical stems: the Pro-Neck and the Tuf-Neck Pro-Model. They both even use animals with studded collars in their logos. But they are manufactured by totally different companies.Pretty confusing, hey?This sidebar is a careful, hopefully objective, short history of how this came to be. Oversimplified, of course.First there was Bakton Enterprises, the original designer and manufacturer of the original Tuf-Neck stem.Then came a company called Superbyke which, in addition to its own products, purchased Tuf-Neck stems from Bakton Enterprises and marketed and distributed them.But SUperbyke's management was not exactly clickin', and the company went down the tubes.Whereupon one of the investors in Superbyke formed a new company and made arrangements with Bakton to purchase, market, and distribute Tuf-Neck stems. This new company was called Tuf-Neck, Inc.Are you with us so far? This is where the plot thickens.All this was cool until the defunct Superbyke company was purchased.At this point the new owner began marketing and distributing an identical Tuf-Neck stem - not manufactured by Bakton - along with their other products.This, of course, created a multitude of identity problems what with two companies advertising and distributing identical stems with identical names but manufactured by different companies.So Tuf-Neck, Inc and Bakton Enterprises changed the design of their stem by radiusing the corners, and changed the name of the stem to Pro-Neck.At this point the situation was thus: The Pro-Neck was distributed by Tuf-Neck, Inc., and the Tuf-Neck was distributed by Superbyke. Which wouldn't do at all. So Tuf-Neck, Inc. changed its name to Pro-Neck, Inc. and the identity conflict eased somewhat.Until Superbyke came out with a newer version of the Tuf-Neck - with radiused corners, called the Pro-model Tuf-Neck.Ah...what terrible tangled webs we weave. - Bob Osborn"Reading this again myself just made me click about the double add taken out in one of the old bmx actions.I thought when i 1st saw this, "why would two rival companies take out a joint add "I realised the add was letting everyone know about the change from tuf neck to pro neck and nothing to do with tuf neck who started to carry the tuf neck tiger
Thanks Chaps, that clears the name thing up. But which is the better quality on the later parts Tuf Neck or Pro Neck, or both the same? Should you pay more for one than the other?