Author Topic: NEW HEAD SET FITTING HELP NEEDED. (Read 2840 times)

dordymush · « **on:** February 06, 2006, 12:30 PM »

right then info needed.
im building up a streetbeat as a rider.went and bought a new DB head set from halfords yesterday for it.got back home and got the hammer and bits of wood etc to knock it in thinking it would be a bit of a job by what you fella's have said before.but the cups just slide straight in by hand. no hammering nothing. even the bottom bearing ring slipped onto the forks with no fuss.is this right. i thought they should be well tight to put in.like i say i want to ride this bike. and not being a small fella in the belly area i want it right.what you think about this ?.

ORB · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2006, 12:32 PM »

yeah, it has happened to me before.

told you beats was cack

lol

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theRuler · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2006, 12:41 PM »

sounds like you may have the wrong headset

are MTB headsets just slightly smaller?

dordymush · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2006, 01:17 PM »

dont know gra. it said 1" heavy duty head set for standard bmx's.
i dont want to start riding it and it be wrong

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theRuler · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2006, 01:21 PM »

Quote from: dordymush on February 06, 2006, 01:17 PM

dont know gra. it said 1" heavy duty head set for standard bmx's.
i dont want to start riding it and it be wrong .

thats an odd one.
take it the fook back and get a replacement

have you got another cup you can try in the frame? off another bike (that you know is the right cup)

toooldforthis · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2006, 01:50 PM »

That was a question I needed to ask - can new bits be used with old bits when building a bike up?

I'm only thinking headsets and bb's really?

theRuler · « **Reply #6 on:** February 06, 2006, 01:55 PM »

Quote from: toooldforthis on February 06, 2006, 01:50 PM

That was a question I needed to ask - can new bits be used with old bits when building a bike up?

I'm only thinking headsets and bb's really?

so long as it is in good condition
most 1" headset parts are interchangable in my experience

billstup · « **Reply #7 on:** February 06, 2006, 02:12 PM »

Thats not good on a rider Dave, it needs to have negative pressure or the frame will start to bell out and be ruined, thats why they are normally so hard to put in

toooldforthis · « **Reply #8 on:** February 06, 2006, 02:18 PM »

Quote from: theRuler on February 06, 2006, 01:55 PM

Quote from: toooldforthis on February 06, 2006, 01:50 PM
That was a question I needed to ask - can new bits be used with old bits when building a bike up?

I'm only thinking headsets and bb's really?

so long as it is in good condition
most 1" headset parts are interchangable in my experience

Cheers Squire

dordymush · « **Reply #9 on:** February 06, 2006, 02:29 PM »

cheers bill i thought it was'nt right.
you got any more of them ones you had graeme to try ?.
let me know dude.

theRuler · « **Reply #10 on:** February 06, 2006, 02:30 PM »

Quote from: dordymush on February 06, 2006, 02:29 PM

cheers bill i thought it was'nt right.
you got any more of them ones you had graeme to try ?.
let me know dude.

got a few mate
i can sort you out.
wanna pop round later?

dordymush · « **Reply #11 on:** February 06, 2006, 02:33 PM »

will do old chap. what time is good for thee.
you any good at fitting these things lol.

theRuler · « **Reply #12 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:14 AM »

dave did that bike shop sort you out?

for the record, dave come to mine yesterday afternoon and i found that his headtube is larger than a 1" headset but smaller than a 1 1/8th
the headtube looks like it has been machined out. we tried different headset cups, all of which just fell into the headtube with no resistance

i guessed that skyway must have used a non standard headset cup size for building these beats. daves is a raw one. anyone else have an unpainted beat? the headset go in ok?

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:17 AM »

the headtube on that green one was machined out too, graeme.

theRuler · « **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:17 AM »

Quote from: oberonspacefruit on February 07, 2006, 10:17 AM

the headtube on that green one was machined out too, graeme.

doh
what did you do for a headset?

weston · « **Reply #15 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:20 AM »

new school diamondback headsets are slightly smaller, buy an old school tioga headset, this will solve the problem..

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #16 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:22 AM »

you sent me one. if you remember correctly.

lol.

i found one that fitted ok. not REALLY tight, but no wobble. it was a strange one though from ginnys. beartrap i think, with rubber shields instead of the normal cup thing. to tell you the truth its not perfect yet.

theRuler · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:24 AM »

didnt the one i sent fit then?

its weird
in daves frame the cups would pull in and out by hand. but the cups i was trying fit the other frames i have fine

i have had a couple of cheap halford db headsets and they are very tight in all other frames.

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:25 AM »

the top fit ok....but there was no bottom cup.

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:26 AM »

tell u the truth i was rushing to get it built up. i didnt have to hammer it in, but it was tightish.

theRuler · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:29 AM »

Quote from: oberonspacefruit on February 07, 2006, 10:26 AM

tell u the truth i was rushing to get it built up. i didnt have to hammer it in, but it was tightish.

dont know where that bottom cup went!

in daves, the top cup was slack. if you turn the frame over it would drop out

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #21 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:40 AM »

nah, it was deffo tighter than that.

maybe a shim would sort it.

taks away the point of it being cnc'd tho.

maybe try one of those that weston suggested

theRuler · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:49 AM »

sounds like the best bet

but i fitted one of those headsets i gave you to a nos haro fst frame at the weekend and had to literally hammer the crap out of it to get it on

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #23 on:** February 07, 2006, 11:13 AM »

i fitted a db one it the ta as well. that was the same. perhaps its just skyway frames.

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #24 on:** February 07, 2006, 11:13 AM »

didnt know you had a nos fst. gert it to bones.