HAD AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION LAST NIGHT!! RARE FRAME???

[dwain dibbly]

so we were out last night at our local and got talking to another  couple.
after about 10 mins it turned out that the bloke used to race as a kid  BITD and
even better his dad used to own a bike shop in Cornwall 

the night got better when his parents joined them for a drink. i couldn't help myself and
had to start grilling him apparently his shop was in mousehole in Cornwall and he sold
everything from rippers to kuwi, skyways,rickmans he just kept reeling the names off
i was like a little kid 

the best bit though was when he told me he was a GT  agent and his son always raced them.
i was telling him that i was restoring a pro performer when he told me something that nearly
made me spill my pint !!

apparently in 85 or 86 (he couldn't remember ) GT was about to launch the "eddie fiola" signature frame 
he seems to remember they had built prototypes and was going to release them but never did
 he seems to think there was problems between  gt and fiola so they never made it to the shops.
but there was at least 2 bikes built one yellow one and one blue one.

anyone ever heard this before? its news to me??

[HUTCHMAN]

don't spose your talking about Dave Harvey are you?

[dwain dibbly]

to be honest i never got his dads name. the son was called mark
it was just a random meeting of a couple in a pub on a saturday night   

[username]

The bloke was talking out of his arse! 

[dwain dibbly]

The bloke was talking out of his arse! 

he seemed to be genuine and had no reason to lie
what makes you think its bull ?? ??

[Philbert]

are they in his loft?

[HUTCHMAN]

let's put it this way,Dave used to have the Mousehole bmx centre,then moved to Bread street in Penzance and later moved to New street in Penzance.Dave is about 5ft 4 and is an ex miner.

[baldbmxer]

Ex miner? - he'll be keeping them in his cellar then 

[HUTCHMAN]

he did used to go quite deep!

[meticulous]

sounds like it could be genuine, why not?  they must be hundreds of stories like this that have wilted away with time...

[HUTCHMAN]

if it is Dave we're talking about,trust me,he knows his stuff!

[username]

sounds like it could be genuine, why not?  they must be hundreds of stories like this that have wilted away with time...

if it is Dave we're talking about,trust me,he knows his stuff!

It's kind of like saying was there ever any discussion of welding fork and chainstay standers onto the frames. Lots of things were discussed. But were NEVER going to happen.

The bloke was talking out of his arse! 

he seemed to be genuine and had no reason to lie
what makes you think its bull ?? ??

I didn't say I think it was bull

[dwain dibbly]

let's put it this way,Dave used to have the Mousehole bmx centre,then moved to Bread street in Penzance and later moved to New street in Penzance.Dave is about 5ft 4 and is an ex miner.

sounds about right 
we are an old mining town so he could have links up here

who ever he was it was really nice to sit and chat to someone who was
in the know BITD. I have no reason to disbelieve. and in retrospect i cant believe
fiola never had a sig frame so does anyone know why he never got one??

id love to see a pic of these mythical frames

[Swivel]

Doesn't sound like bull to me, that bloke sounds like he knows his stuff! 

[jedi]

why not ask fiiola when he's on facebook tonight?

[woody allen bars]

Dave Harvey certainly does know his stuff. He was the first bloke to invest in BMX as a sport in Cornwall, not just in terms of money but in massive amounts of time too. Whenever I had a spare quid or three I would talk my parents into taking us down there as it was only 15 miles away from where we come from in Redruth and his shop was a true Aladdin's Cave. The last frame I got from him was a used Kona mtb about four years ago just before he sold up the shop in PZ and he was still the same straight-talking bloke he'd always been.

I wouldn't be surprised if what he said was true as Dave's links within off road sport go back way beyond BMX. He'd been a champion MX-er in the seventies (and is again now in the classic twin shock class) and was really trusted by those in the industry. Graham Merry used to flow stuff to him way earlier than to many of the bigger shops so we saw stuff from VDC, Hyper, LRP and so on as early as anyone in the UK, even though Cornwall was a small player in the larger British BMX scene. I don't think he'd really have any reason to tell you a tall tale as there'd be no point in it - that stuff is old history now, why make it up?

~ Craig

[username]

fiola never had a sig frame so does anyone know why he never got one??

Depends if you just refuse to believe to truth or not.

Doesn't sound like bull to me, that bloke sounds like he knows his stuff! 

Is it impossible for you to believe any other people might know their stuff?

why not ask fiiola when he's on facebook tonight?

Whatever he says at the end of the day the decision would not have been his. Richard Long would NEVER had done a Fiola (or any other) frame. It would not even be something that would have been dared mentioned. If something had been attempted behind his back I would have seen or at least heard of it brewing.

I don't think he'd really have any reason to tell you a tall tale as there'd be no point in it - that stuff is old history now, why make it up?

There seems to be no possibility that I am not making it up? Why is that?

The guy may have believed this to be true, I don't doubt he was told stuff like this, but it simply is not!

[SaMAlex]

Is it impossible for you to believe any other people might know their stuff?

There seems to be no possibility that I am not making it up? Why is that?

Dave, you rule. 

[jT Racing]

fiola never had a sig frame so does anyone know why he never got one??

Depends if you just refuse to believe to truth or not.

Doesn't sound like bull to me, that bloke sounds like he knows his stuff! 

Is it impossible for you to believe any other people might know their stuff?

why not ask fiiola when he's on facebook tonight?

Whatever he says at the end of the day the decision would not have been his. Richard Long would NEVER had done a Fiola (or any other) frame. It would not even be something that would have been dared mentioned. If something had been attempted behind his back I would have seen or at least heard of it brewing.

I don't think he'd really have any reason to tell you a tall tale as there'd be no point in it - that stuff is old history now, why make it up?

There seems to be no possibility that I am not making it up? Why is that?

The guy may have believed this to be true, I don't doubt he was told stuff like this, but it simply is not!

why the blatent hate dude?

[username]

why the blatent hate dude?

are you having a laugh?

[jT Racing]

no i think it's gone way beyond the boundries of a laugh or joke.

[Jt]

fags

[username]

fags

no i think it's gone way beyond the boundries of a laugh or joke.

I honestly cannot see any hate in what I posted. What are you on about?

[crazycraig]

fags

no i think it's gone way beyond the boundries of a laugh or joke.

I honestly cannot see any hate in what I posted. What are you on about?

Take it on the chin fella .

JT Racing is 6ft5" of solid fighting muscle thats diciplined in every martial art going !!!!!!


Well not really but he gives that perception 

[SaMAlex]

I dont care at all if GT were going to bring out a banana man frame, but if I was going to listen to anyone about what was going on at GT in the 80s, it'd be Username, for sure