Great Ayton Quarry Trails

[paulgray]

Had some unwelcome guests today, four lads with a yellow crosser and a pit bike  Jumped in my car and managed to spot the crosser leaving quarry lane and heading into the village, spun the car round and found him loading bike into back of a black van, pulled up camera out click click photo for the cops. Jumped back in car, around the block and then pulled up next to him, "what you taking photos of my bike for mate" says the scum bag, so I replied "it's a nice bike bike mate and I like yer van too HV58 OOC" so I hope he thinks I want to nick it  . Passed the details onto the police for what it's worth 



We gotta hassle these guys or they'll keep coming back. If you see bikes up there call NY police on 08456 060247 and report them, cheers 

[nigel hutton]

well done mate scum bags,can,t beleive they brought a van chheeky bastards .i didn,t wanna tackle them on me own up there.they were clueless like ,hopefully they won,t be back if the coppers do there job.
glad to hear the bikes up and running tommy great bargain.pity the dusk session had to be cancelled rain stopped play i was right up for it aswell.have to see if anyones up for it this saturday nite let me know AQL

[keiththompson]

Dans been hastleing me to go up since Sunday. If anyone fancys a few hours tomorrow about 6-7ish let me know .
Nige have you got any spare pedals, the ones Dan put on have fallen to bits (always worth scrounging before I have to buy some)

[paulgray]

I'm signed up for a curry Saturday evening so that's me out. Friday night might be possible though. Had a look for some pedals for Dan but no luck.

[keiththompson]

Dans on a school tip to flamingoland tomorrow (friday) so ill be either be up with him or without him. Dunno about the weekend yet though, but Sat will be out (esp night time) cos the British speedway GP is on tele.

I was up with Dan on Wed night and had a good couple of hours. I had to let the water out of the spiral though and unblock the pipe cos you couldnt ride it as it was to full.

[nigel hutton]

been up tonite,good sesh i,m gonna dig the middle out more of the spiral so the water will sit lower mate it,s the best place for the water as alot of the time it,s in shade unlike the swamp,that dry,s out real quick.plus the the water runs right through the 8 pack and has worn a bad groove which i relined tonite.i,ve repligged the pipe and filled alot of it in i,ll do more at the weekend if it,s fine.i,m wanting to do some more relining of the 8 pack and i need the water to do any of it .it,s a constant maintenance job because of the shuffle munsterers who just ride and won,t do fook all to help.if i,m working on em at the weekend and one of em says"can we ride em yet" i,m gonna put me foot through his arse.go find ye own trails fookers.....AQL

[nigel hutton]

SORRY NO PEDALS I GAVE ME SPARES TO MATT LAST YEAR.

[keiththompson]

Looks like another rain off 

might be up at the weekend sometime...ill let you know

[nigel hutton]

had two good days digging on me own,
where is everyone

[keiththompson]

had two good days digging on me own,
where is everyone

Dont tell me its been fine in Ayton. It drizzled all day in Guis yesterday and this morning was the same until 5 minutes when the sun came out at tea-time.
To be honest the stupid prang I had the other week is still giving my shoulder a bit of jip. Its loads better, but not perfect.

Its a good forcast this week so Im gonna pencil in Wed night about 6-7ish for a session. (possibly Tues  and Fri as well might be OK). The nights are drawing in now

[keiththompson]

Going out tonight for some scran, but I will still be up wed evening. Anyone else coming?

[keiththompson]

I wont be up tonight. Its just toooooooo hot. 

[nigel hutton]

went up tuesday nite a load of right la la,s came up .gonna go tomorrow nite and tidy up

[nigel hutton]

anyone up tonite for a dusk sesion

[keiththompson]

Me and Dan will be up about 6ish.

[keiththompson]

Where was ya. Me and dan stayed up till half 9ish. A few townies up but they went at 8ish.
Nige, Its a bad idea having a water-hole in the spiral I think. As you prob know it was full of water and was un-ridable. Its not really fair when you think of the time and digging we did to build it, and its far more important having the spiral to ride, rather than a water hole. Dunno if it was you who blocked it up again, but ive un-blocked it again. Dont worry I built a dam with a pipe running out onto a piece of carpet so nothing will be washed away (you will see if you go up tomorrow). When its all empty I'd suggest digging and laying a pipe between mini DP 2 and 3 to stop it washing away at this point.
Phoned the bobbies up when I got home cos there was about 12 lads camping up on the second level as we left. they carried loads of drink and I think they had air-rifles and were building a fire. The bobbies are sending a unit there they said so we will see what happens.

[Maccaz]

water is however instrumental in maintaining what we have. no point building new stuff constantly if what we have isn't ridable in the first place. the 8-pack is used more than the spiral surely?

[keiththompson]

water is however instrumental in maintaining what we have. no point building new stuff constantly if what we have isn't ridable in the first place. the 8-pack is used more than the spiral surely?

Wouldnt it be better to have both though A dark/black cover/sheet over the swamp will stop it evaporating........ simples.

[Maccaz]

...and i don't see the problem with the water being there, as in its not a bad place to have it.

[keiththompson]

...and i don't see the problem with the water being there, as in its not a bad place to have it.

I dont think you have seen how much water was in it. When the pipe is blocked, it cant escape anywhere. We had a massive thunder storm on friday and it was full to bursting, making the spiral totally un-ridable. Not only the spiral was effected, but the run-up to the DP was also under water.
Ok we have experimented in seeing if it would be good for holding water and I didnt mind. But now that we have found out it knackers the spiral then it isnt going to work, and its hardly fair when you think of the effort it took to build.... fairs fair

[nigel hutton]

sorry nite sesh didn,t work out i didn,t get any texts so didn,t bother.
was gutted to see the water all but gone when i got up sunday,and the state of the 8 pack where the water has worn a trench on it,s way to the swamp.firstly a cover would go missing overnite,it,s hard enough keeping the carpets on the dp.secondly people were riding the spiral on saturday afternoon with all the lovely water in it,all we need to do is dig the hole deeper in the middle of the spiral.which will get done a.s.a.p but keeping the great jumps running great is my priority in the summer,the water level drops,it,s in the shade far more than the swamp ,theres not a stream going inbetween the 8 pack.problems solved.everyones happy.just to keep the jumps we have now running smooth is a constant battle and if we don,t have water it simply can,t be done.thats the best place for it and the spiral doesn,t have to suffer at all.i really wanted to get on and ride today but had to spend an hour patching up the water damage on the 8 pack then filling in the dam again sick as a muggy c**t.
please leave the dam in and  we can dig dig the hole deeper.AQL

[keiththompson]

I still dont have your number nige so couldnt text you, I usually type on here if im going up.

Without wanting to fall out with good mates.
I agreed to digging out the spiral, having a water-hole in it no probs but this never got done done
On sat the spiral was only just ridable clockwise, but it was bloody dodgy without falling in the water. but it was imposible to ride anti-clockwise as the exit was under a foot of water. Theres lots of kids like Dan, and even your Jack who likes to ride the spiral.
There was another problem where water was leaking out the spiral between mini DP1 and 2 if you noticed leaving a puddle.
As I mentioned before, after the rain on friday, it was so full that the run-up to the DP was flooded. How do you plan to keep this clear if someone wants to ride the DP?

Thats why I think its a bad idea...

Even after all that  I still dont mind having a water hole in the spiral, but it needs to be done the correct way.
The first job is to dig the hole and shift the muck thats still in the middle so any water lays central and low and out the way.
If heavy floods come like friday water still needs to escape so keep the pipe open to let out excess water so it doesnt flood.
Put a pipe between mini dp 2 and 3 when any water runs.

To be honest the middle of the spiral isnt going to be dug out is it... I mean how can you when its under a foot of water. If I didnt empty it on friday how were you going to dig it out? never prob. If you say the spiral isnt going to suffer then I challenge anybody to ride it Clock-wise and anti when its full.

ALL THAT WORK AND DIGGING.....AND ALL FOR A DUCKPOND. if Id have known that I wouldnt have bothered.

Like I said Nige, mates will always be mates, but every now and then you have to compromise. The spiral may not mean out to you, but it does to me and many other as just something different to ride. Dig the middle out, unblock the out-pipe, put a pipe under the 8pack. then leave the spiral RIDABLE.

Lots of storms forcast this week, Id like to see how itll be dug out when its flooded again

[nigel hutton]

look at the long term if we let the water out and it goes in the swamp it,ll dry out and we are back to square one .dig it out have a pipe leading from the run up dp pipe into the dug out hole when it,s deep enough the water will be fine in there and  it won,t back fill onto the dp run up like i said won,t dry out as quickly as the swamp and also has the added bonus that if riders come off they get wet..loads of people are riding the 8 pack and the two doubles which cross the 8 pack they need to be smooth for a decent ride.the last thing we need is people not working together ,the spiral,s great ,the deeper it is the smaller the pool will be.remember the ground inbetween the 8 pack was a nightmare to dig full of rocks.just think it,s the logical answer to the lack of water
saying all that if it keeps the peace i,ll put a pipe in just gonna be a twat to dig and i,ve just spent 2 visi
ts getting the pack running smooth and i wonna ride
no probs though

[keiththompson]

NP mate

To be honest... Im not really fussed what you decide to do, as long as the spiral is ridable both ways around. my vision of your idea was to have a sort of big sunken bath tub, smack bang in the middle of the spiral with everything dug out using the present out-pipe as an overflow valve so we have the water, but when it gets to much, the excess water can escape and not the spiral itself. This would stop the problem I had on Sat, when it was just a big pond and un-ridable. Thats why I couldnt understand how you planned to dig the "bath-tub", when the whole area was under a foot of water.
I think we have done a good job with the pipes etc in directing the rain away from the middle of the quarry as the top end drys just as quickly as the bottom end now, just a few tweeks here and there and it should be ridable well into early winter
Hopefully  Ill be fully fit to ride properly soon and have another bash at the 8pack.

I forgot to ask, was there any sign of those campers on Sunday (cans and bottles etc, esp on the second level), or did the  bobbies get em shifted.

[keiththompson]

I dont wanna say "I told you so"... Nobody predicted the floods this week, but any rain that was more than average would always have lead to this.


When the spiral was full it was always going to gather at the DP run-up...


With the spiral and DP runup full the water is escaping over the mini-dp berm washing a grove into it...


Blocking the "out-pipe" would always have lead to this with heavy rain...




Without emptying the spiral this is gonna take ages to shift, unless we have a heatwave for a week or so. I'm not gonna unblock the spiral anymore, cant be arsed, but ill leave it to who-ever to do, along with digging the "supposed" waterhole etc. Ive already said what I think "should" have been done to have the spiral running and some water for looking after the jumps. Blocking pipes was to much of an easy option, now (through nobodys fault but the weather) loads of damage has been done to not only our spiral but to other stuff. Im not really angry, but I would say my enthusiasm for going up there is fading, which is sad after so much work through the winter and expectation for the summer up the Quarry been unable to ride what I wanted to ride.