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cheers guysandy, it was 7 foot tall at first but after a while due to not riding enough.. having a job and family etc, i decided to chop it a couple of feet to gain confidence, and have fun, i still have carlos ramp 5 mins away and he is in the process of chopping the vert ramp down by a couple of feet, so hopefully get some skills on that when its done..pete you are welcome down any time, just need to give me a mail ha ha all the beststeve you better get lots of food in if pete comes steve,..............