supergoose 3 and cali

[eloopnai]

can someone tell me what the difference is between a supergoose 3 and a cali frame please as they seem the same to me ?   

[selfpreservation]

a cali has trimoly tubing ie front end cromo and rear steel a super has full cromo and different geometry(similar to proclass) supergoose iii is the greatest bike ever created IMHO

[eloopnai]

  cheers for that thinking about doing a supergoose 3 if i can get me hands on a frame & forks after xmas

[login_user]

Right, 

supergoose3 game in 2 types in 83 it came with the thicker tubing on the rear stays and 3 holes in the rear brake bridge different geometry(same as proclass),then in 84 we got the full chromo Cali frame stickered up as a supergoose3, Ciarans, right about the Cali frame but that was just the early ones,as the later ones where full chromo. 

[eloopnai]

hmmm so let me get this right a 84 supergoose 3 looks identical to a cali geomatry wise and what its made of ?

[kdw712]

its a full chromoly frame and fork

[jimmyp]

 

[chrishil1]

Hold on

Cali's arnt all chromoly till later on (86?) - sure the rear dropouts have knurling on them

So the Cali geometry isnt the same as Supergooses after the 3 brake bridge models.

As far as I can remember,

I read that all chromoly tubes ones - have the rear loop connecting lower on the seat tube.
There is a post about it somewhere. Im sure someone has pictures somewhere to make a proper guide.

Chris

[chrishil1]

So as far as I understand it.

Both have serial number on bb and single hole in brake bridge.

Cali all tubes Chromoly - same as UK Supergoose3
Cali just front triangle chromoly, back steel - Not SG3

What year they changed im not sure?
Is it all taiwan frames are all chromoly?
But dont think my Blue Max is all chromoly but is Taiwan?
Ive had early US calis with steel back end?

Not sure you can tell with the knurling on the rear dropouts.
I have had both types.

My point was where the seat tube meets rear triangle gives it away if its full chromoly or not.
Tried searching, but cant find the picture post threat that described this.

And then theres the Expert, M1 and Blue Max?

[eloopnai]

   just spent half hour reading the thread on supergooses what a topic this is and confusing

[kdw712]

at the end of the day its still

buyer be aware !