Supergoose u.k Supergoose usa

[jimmyp]

Not sure it quiet as simple as that. Anyway the uk bike is 15g lighter that the usa version so as far as i can see they got stiffed. Jump on board dude we have just discoverd a new bike, just like when those people in the desert found those different dino bones. Today is a great day, now lets get collecting them up instead of ripping the fooking stickers of and putting cali decals on.

[theRuler]

Not sure it quiet as simple as that. Anyway the uk bike is 15g lighter that the usa version so as far as i can see they got stiffed.

the us super has better geometry.
its a different frame to the others.
we got a cali with the wrong stickers and the grand pricks.

[jimmyp]

As a hole its still a great bike fella, look on the bright side and get yourself one. Come on you know you want one

[FuNMoNsTeR]

Are you sure we are not just on some wild Goose chase

[jimmyp]

  very funny dude

[theRuler]

As a hole its still a great bike fella, look on the bright side and get yourself one. Come on you know you want one

i still think i already have one
and thats why the expert was US only.

i will see what it weighs later on

[jimmyp]

Cool

[selfpreservation]

ok you got me
i will strip the expert and weigh it.
if it weighs the same as yours i am gonna put supergoose stickers on it and sell it.
it's gonna be lighter than a supergoose, as it has thinner tubes on the back. not much lighter though.

my super is an 83, and my expert is an 84

youll probably get more for the stickers than the ff

[theRuler]

they'll be repros, and i will mis-spell supergoose

[oberonspacefruit]

so, you weighed it yet?

[Bren Gunn]

Very interesting topic...

So did the manufacture of the Supergoose move from USA to Taiwan after 83 or did BMX products have 2 plants knocking out the Supergoose frames?

Does any one have a serial number log and if so, do both types of serial number run through 1984?

Could one of those frames be a Cali  that was restickered back in the day? after all they did make a full cromo version...

Bren

[oberonspacefruit]

man, dont complicate it any further....

[Bren Gunn]

It's stuff like this that keeps me interested in oldschool bmx...  most of the stuff on all the sites is the same old, same old, which is fine, then every now and again someone brings something new(ish) to the table and it's good for everyone involved. 

So keep those Q & A coming...  I like it

Bren

[jimmyp]

man, dont complicate it any further....

  i know i can't take anymore

[theRuler]

here is my expert weighed . . .

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=17208.new#new

[billstup]

man, dont complicate it any further....

Put it up on vbmx, then your`ll see how complicated it can get 

[FuNMoNsTeR]

man, dont complicate it any further....

Put it up on vbmx, then your`ll see how complicated it can get 

I can hear the sound of squeaking Sketchers approaching from over the pond as we speak to throw in the old 10 cents worth   

[oberonspacefruit]

lol

[oberonspacefruit]

"its ok theyre not mine"

[steve]

its
-after schwinn in 1978 went to taiwan to have their frames made
-mongoose couldn't compete in the usa against them
so they went to taiwan

-all the fat rear tubed frames were still made in chatsworth california, due to the supply of that guage of tubing
-oversized -thats all-they were for the us market
-and therefor cost more than a far eastern frame -due to more expensive manufacture

-all the thin rear ended ones were made in taiwan simple economics - export to europe

it bodes well to think that the high end component specs, were of us origin

-and low end complete bikes -taiwanese

the non loop tailed mongoose grand prix,was possibly made in another factory - probably the falcon pro one, as it would appear that they didn't have the tube bending jig
 

also beware, as if your frame is dated 1988 -maybe earlier, its not even a uk supergoose, but a ' M1'
 


-oh the shame

[steve]

/\ that all maybe lies and made up
-buut i bet the fat rear tube frames are an imperial measurement
-and the others are metric
 

-seems more plausable

[steve]

oh, and i could be said that -1983/4/5/6 thin back end supergeese, are more prevelent than the 1982/3
-maybe saink to do with ids wanting them, after seeing the 1982/83 us built ones ridden by the pros
?

-that makes sense too
 

-supply and demand - and cost  -and shipping
-made for bmx products
-shipped to europe from aisa to ammoco -the uk distributor

[billstup]

Well thats cleared that up then 

[oberonspacefruit]

yeah, clear as mud.

[steve]

i wonder if it was just raw frames that came to the uk from taiwan?
-chromed here, assembled with renthals?
-or even if they came chromed, decals put on here

-by ammoco