Another bar ID please, Now ID'd as PRO NECK , National Pro bars !! Thanks MarkyP

[NORTY40]

Got a feeling i know what these are but just wanted to double check


28" wide
8" rise  (centre of stem area - centre of grip area )
6" Centre of stem area - centre of crossbar

No Knurling and welds are really neat and tidy .








Any help would be appreciated 

[senzo milano]

Early SE   ...  Jof     

[In2bmx]

Burner bars , ill give you £20 . 

[HUTCHMAN]

the small dia crossbar made me think early Hutch bars, but it looks too low??

[NORTY40]

Early SE   ...  Jof     

Not what i was thinking Patric only because of the bike they came on    but open to any suggestions 

Burner bars , ill give you £20 . 

   They might be yet Carl    ..... i doubt it though 

the small dia crossbar made me think early Hutch bars, but it looks too low??

This is what i thought Dave , they came on a early US made Hutch frameset i acquired     

[senzo milano]

 

[NORTY40]

Just done a bit of a search

Im thinking 1st gen Hutch Pro bars

[BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN]

looks right to me 

[NORTY40]

looks right to me 

Cheers B  ....... looks like there off to the chromers then 

[dancetothedrummersbeat]

Yes, look like gen 1 hutch to me 

[markyp]

im not 100% convinced that they are hutch joff,i have first gens and third gens too,they look too wide at the bottom and the cross bars is too low,imo they may well be rare as hell pro neck national pro bars,they look pretty identical to those on my natty,if so they are worth a fair bit.the first gen natty bars have the thin cross bar too
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=443648

[rooski]

im not 100% convinced that they are hutch joff,i have first gens and third gens too,they look too wide at the bottom and the cross bars is too low,imo they may well be rare as hell pro neck national pro bars,they look pretty identical to those on my natty,if so they are worth a fair bit.the first gen natty bars have the thin cross bar too
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=443648

I'm in agreement Mark,look like Pro Neck bars to me too,Hutch bars are very similar though...

[NORTY40]

im not 100% convinced that they are hutch joff,i have first gens and third gens too,they look too wide at the bottom and the cross bars is too low,imo they may well be rare as hell pro neck national pro bars,they look pretty identical to those on my natty,if so they are worth a fair bit.the first gen natty bars have the thin cross bar too
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=443648

ooooh ... spanner in the works   

There is actually a faint outline of an oval decal mark on the RHS of the bars looking from the front  , i just thought it was some random decal that had been added back in the 80's .  They came on a high end US made Hutch frameset  that had some quality parts on it     It was built in the US and the lad i bought it from (who was a racer bitd .... not famous) imported it back in 83 

Are the dimensions the same for the Natty bars  

Cheers Mark 

[markyp]

im not 100% convinced that they are hutch joff,i have first gens and third gens too,they look too wide at the bottom and the cross bars is too low,imo they may well be rare as hell pro neck national pro bars,they look pretty identical to those on my natty,if so they are worth a fair bit.the first gen natty bars have the thin cross bar too
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=443648

ooooh ... spanner in the works   

There is actually a faint outline of an oval decal mark on the RHS of the bars looking from the front  , i just thought it was some random decal that had been added back in the 80's .  They came on a high end US made Hutch frameset  that had some quality parts on it     It was built in the US and the lad i bought it from (who was a racer bitd .... not famous) imported it back in 83 

Are the dimensions the same for the Natty bars  

Cheers Mark

yes Joff same dimensions,you could get £200 for them even in that condition

[NORTY40]

im not 100% convinced that they are hutch joff,i have first gens and third gens too,they look too wide at the bottom and the cross bars is too low,imo they may well be rare as hell pro neck national pro bars,they look pretty identical to those on my natty,if so they are worth a fair bit.the first gen natty bars have the thin cross bar too
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=443648

ooooh ... spanner in the works   

There is actually a faint outline of an oval decal mark on the RHS of the bars looking from the front  , i just thought it was some random decal that had been added back in the 80's .  They came on a high end US made Hutch frameset  that had some quality parts on it     It was built in the US and the lad i bought it from (who was a racer bitd .... not famous) imported it back in 83 

Are the dimensions the same for the Natty bars  

Cheers Mark

yes Joff same dimensions,you could get £200 for them even in that condition

   ooooh the Yacht in Monaco is moving ever closer     

Thanks for your input Mark  ..... i kind of wished they were Hutch bars and tbh i thought they were with the story behind them etc but i guess that's a nice bonus .

 Right ........ who has National Pro frameset they want to sell 

[NORTY40]

Thanks for all your help lads , I think Dave probably started this rolling when he said the crossbar looked a bit low . The two bars do look very similar but i think it is the feint outline of the oval decal and the slightly lower crossbar that has convinced me they are Pro Neck bars .  Obviously having input from two lads who really know there stuff in MarkyP (self confessed bar id nut  ) and Andy Rooski helps a lot .

Cheers lads 

[markyp]

 

[Glynnyboy]

Just measured my pro neck pro bars and they are the same dimensions Joff down to the thin bar location.
As soon as you mentioned the oval mark that sort of clinches it.
I'm sure i read somewhere that the early hutch and pro neck bars were made by the same guy so that would be a good reason to use them on a hutch if you wanted to go something different.

[NORTY40]

Just measured my pro neck pro bars and they are the same dimensions Joff down to the thin bar location.
As soon as you mentioned the oval mark that sort of clinches it.
I'm sure i read somewhere that the early hutch and pro neck bars were made by the same guy so that would be a good reason to use them on a hutch if you wanted to go something different.

Thanks for doing that Glynn , I guess that confirms it 100%    I suppose it's not the result i ideally wanted but in terms of rarerity and obviously value it's a top result   

The two bars do look very similar , so the same guy making them would not surprise me .  Im sure i have read somewhere that Robinson made the early Hutch bars ...... i might be completely off the mark but there early pro bars used a very narrow crossbar aswell 

I'll get them off to the chromers and they can go on one of my Hutch's ........ unless a Natty Pro comes along 

Cheers for confirming Glynn