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New School BMX 2004 - Now => New School Racing => Topic started by: eloopnai on May 12, 2009, 09:31 AM
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was chatting at daggers and was told about these bikes they do look awesome also heard shanaze has left redline and is now with them ?
http://www.thepurebicyclecompany.co.uk/pro-xl.html
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Just to clarify, you think they look awesome :shocked:
I think they look like they are sold in JJB to be honest, I dont doubt the technical brilliance and I imagine that the R&D costs are staggering, but despite all of that still looks shat.
Verdict...Turd :daumenhoch:
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:) Not seen anything on the Shanaze,Redline or Pure websites??? Frame is an ugly thing! She was deffo on a Pure at the UCI SX on Saturday...
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a253/the1carper/images-1.jpg)
SOme love it some hate it...............seen sexier N/S frames :-\
http://www.onebicycles.com/
:smitten:
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had a watch of the uci racing and found a photo of shanaze on the pure bike
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/cc161/eloopnai/3M5G9638038.jpg)
i dont like marmite yuk :crazy2:
the frame would look better in a different colour i like the shape of it simular to the intense
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I like it, and marmite,
so there >:D
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As I've said on the subject of Pure frames before, no my cuppa, but no worse (in some cases even better) than quite a few other high end race frames (carbon MBK, Avent and GT's spring to mind).
I have ridden one though and they feel very very stiff and light at the front end.
On the subject of colour I don't think ti paints that well so they only do them in raw, I'm sure Dialled Mike can put me straight on that as he know quite a bit more about that material than I do.
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When I saw one in the flesh at Derby I thought it looked better than it does in the pics.
Colour is natural Ti colour. Liquid paint doesn't stick that well to Ti, but powder coat does, but raw/polished looks best with Ti as it's harder wearing that paint/powder.
I'm surprised Shanaze has left Redline for Pure but word on the grapevine is that she wants to bring out her own line of bikes so that may be the reason behind it. At the end of the day, she could beat most of her comp on an off the shelf Halfords Special, so I suppose it doesn't really matter who she rides for.
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The last time I saw Shanaze on a 'Redline' was about a month or so ago at Crewe, but it was clearly a Koxx stickered up as a Redline (Koxx are pretty much unmistakable).A week later she turned up at Preston gates on the Pure.
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The one Shanaze is riding i think is very very nice :)
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The stickers/graphics improve the looks of the frame a lot. Designed by Animal, apparently.
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a253/the1carper/images-1.jpg)
SOme love it some hate it...............seen sexier N/S frames :-\
http://www.onebicycles.com/
:smitten:
Cheers Peter! Sticker pack in the post :LolLolLolLol:
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The stickers/graphics improve the looks of the frame a lot. Designed by Animal, apparently.
I heard on the quiet that Animal gave them a massive budget and are coming out with BMX specific clothing, not sure how true that is?
:) DINGO :)
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i clicked the link and i thought it had taken me to Toys R us site! horrible looking thing :crazy2:
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i don't see the point to the seat tube?
it puts the seat further forward than where it would normally be.
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I dont think it looks too bad and from what i've heard they're a nice ride :daumenhoch:
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs010.snc1/4187_1153617805843_1389615342_406212_7848620_n.jpg)
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:) Off -topic a bit,but is Pure connected to Koxx,or is this just a fill-in bike?
http://www.k-124.co.uk/product.php?product_id=111&category_id=36
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pure koxx,
just about sums it up ;)
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Some great old articles in here: http://www.bmxbasics.org/index.html and it makes you realise very little is new or needed.
Fancy frame design is as much about selling bikes than anything (not there is owt wrong with that). The product needs to be seen as 'new' and 'fresh' otherwise it's not so desirable.
Boswell has been advocating a decent complete bike as all anyone really needs and I guess that pretty much sums it up. The rest is bling.
That said I have bombshell forks on one of my bikes coz I'm a sucker for nice engineering :idiot2:
I don't like the look of it either, looks like a fatty squashed it.
Edited to add, the whole team concept looks really good and very pro, where are the frames actually made?
Steve
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pure koxx,
just about sums it up ;)
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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Pure have no links to koxx at all.
They are an independant frame company based in East Anglia. The frame has been designed by an ex MK club member.
The bent seat tube is the key to the stiffness of the frame. All the engineering stresses were worked on by top proffs at Licester Uni.
They are very nice frames, probably the next best thing to a Dialled.
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Dialled look nice as well as perform, infact I was looking fondly at a technique frame at the weekend, these look fookin shite and as stated earlier look like a Reebok at best, if something is so good, make it look good. I am all for new innovations but lets face it,its ugly, infact the Airbourne Ti frame looks good next to that. Simples
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.................... I am all for new innovations but lets face it,its ugly, infact the Airbourne Ti frame looks good next to that. Simples
A good point. ;D But at least a Pure isn't going to snap in half in 10 minutes like one of those Airebourne pieces of shite.
I'll still stick to my Standards and S&M's though. :smitten:
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One of the guys behind this frame is Rob Vernon- he takes his racing very seriously and he's no chump. I doubt he'd waste his own time and money on something that he thought wasn't going to perform well on the track, and I suspect the initial shape of the frame is a result of 'form follows function' rather than what just looks nice. Comparisons have been drawn with the Intense frames, which are no beauties , but they still win races week in and week out. The fact that Shanaze Reade is willing to test/race what is pretty much a brand-new product is also testament to the efforts made by this small British company. I've no doubt theres a financial incentive as well, but I'm sure she turns down plenty of offers. ( though she'll probably be back on Koxx next week!)
As I've said before, the Pure is not really to my taste either, but variety is the spice of life. If some people on this forum had their way we'd all be riding black S+Ms, donking around over bits of plywood and wearing our sister's jeans.
As my old man says, 'Those that can, do. Those that can't, criticise.'
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You right about Rob, he's a very successful businessman in his own right too, the bloke does not mess about. Before he got into BMX when his son started racing he was running and sponsoring a top UK MX team. I'm sure he wouldn't waste his time and money on a fad, or some flash in the pan sort of deal.
Most people at the very sharp end of racing couldn't careless what something look like to a point, it's the end result that matters. This bike isn't intended for the likes of me and the Masters head bangers, it's aimed at the Elite market.
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You right about Rob, he's a very successful businessman in his own right too, the bloke does not mess about. Before he got into BMX when his son started racing he was running and sponsoring a top UK MX team. I'm sure he wouldn't waste his time and money on a fad, or some flash in the pan sort of deal.
Most people at the very sharp end of racing couldn't careless what something look like to a point, it's the end result that matters. This bike isn't intended for the likes of me and the Masters head bangers, it's aimed at the Elite market.
what bars are those in the website photo?
cant quite make them out ???
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what bars are those in the website photo?
cant quite make them out ???
S&M race.
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Pure isn't just bmx either, Rob's done his market research and nailed a key area. Velodrome bikes for 10 year olds!
Until now they were custom builds only, Shinny will also be sporting a pure on the boards.
And once Cam's a little bigger he will sport a Pure on the boards.
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Sweet... Sounds like we will have to have one of those in our household, for use down at calshot :)
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The bent seat tube is the key to the stiffness of the frame.
what a lot of flannel. i'm not a uni proffessor, but theres no way putting a bend in a tube increases stiffness.
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It might not increase the stiffnes of the tube with the bend in, but the powers that be say it's a component on the whole package.
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Bike design is one of the things with lots of different theories surrounding it and difficult to prove either way.
The true test of the Pure will be what results people can achieve on them. Not necessarily Shanaze cos she could win on anything, but the rest of the team.
From my perspective, EA Pure Racing and their professori designed hi-tech titanium dream machines are sitting 8 places and 82 points behind my team of lo-tech cro-moly riding renegades in the national series rankings ;)
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Bike design is one of the things with lots of different theories surrounding it and difficult to prove either way.
The true test of the Pure will be what results people can achieve on them. Not necessarily Shanaze cos she could win on anything, but the rest of the team.
From my perspective, EA Pure Racing and their professori designed hi-tech titanium dream machines are sitting 8 places and 82 points behind my team of lo-tech cro-moly riding renegades in the national series rankings ;)
I bet you smilled like a cheshire cat as you wrote that Mike :daumenhoch:
I smile like a cheshire cat every time I ride my mx20 ;)
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You're right Lee :D
I'm both surprised and very happy that we're currently No.2 team at the moment. Not sure if we can make that final step and become No.1 this season (we've been No.2 in 4X for 3 years in a row but the top spot has always eluded us), but we're definitely on target to beat our best ever 6th place finish in BMX.
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It might not increase the stiffnes of the tube with the bend in, but the powers that be say it's a component on the whole package.
again, false.
the seattube is the highest stressed tube on a bmx.
putting a bend in it will allow it to 'stretch' allowing more flex on the other tubes.
FAIL.
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It might not increase the stiffnes of the tube with the bend in, but the powers that be say it's a component on the whole package.
again, false.
the seattube is the highest stressed tube on a bmx.
putting a bend in it will allow it to 'stretch' allowing more flex on the other tubes.
FAIL.
Don't shoot the messanger........coz he rides a dialled ;)
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I would have thought the bottom bracket or the headtube would have been the most stressed part of a frame because of the loadings going through it.
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Somethines the results can supprise you of where and how the stress can impact on a design...I've been running one of my clients designs though our FEA package and the results have supprise a lot of my application engineers.
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I know people's views/concerns about UK Bike Co turned out to be right, but let's give Pure a chance to show what they've got.
There's not many UK based BMX race companies around so let's hope they succeed, not fail.
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I know people's views/concerns about UK Bike Co turned out to be right, but let's give Pure a chance to show what they've got.
There's not many UK based BMX race companies around so let's hope they succeed, not fail.
such a gent Mike, good on ya fella :Great_Britain:
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I'm all for progression and pushing the boundries but you can't beat a standard cro mo frames BMX race frame.
Preferably with Dialled written down the side of it. :LolLolLolLol:
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I would have thought the bottom bracket or the headtube would have been the most stressed part of a frame because of the loadings going through it.
think how many tubes are welded to the seat tube. on cheaper made frames that they only use one tube crmo, its the seat tube thats crmo.
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I know people's views/concerns about UK Bike Co turned out to be right, but let's give Pure a chance to show what they've got.
There's not many UK based BMX race companies around so let's hope they succeed, not fail.
such a gent Mike, good on ya fella :Great_Britain:
Cheers Lee.
I think BMX racing is the best sport ever and would love to see it boom again, be taught in schools across the country (like Kelvin is doing in Rotherham) and shed its "kids' sport" image.
The way I see it, if more UK riders were on bikes made/produced by UK based companies, there'd be more sponsorships and maybe the sport would reach full potential. 75% of UK racers are on American companies' frames, but no American companies are supporting UK BMX. UK riders/racers need to see the bigger picture.
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I know people's views/concerns about UK Bike Co turned out to be right, but let's give Pure a chance to show what they've got.
There's not many UK based BMX race companies around so let's hope they succeed, not fail.
such a gent Mike, good on ya fella :Great_Britain:
Cheers Lee.
I think BMX racing is the best sport ever and would love to see it boom again, be taught in schools across the country (like Kelvin is doing in Rotherham) and shed its "kids' sport" image.
The way I see it, if more UK riders were on bikes made/produced by UK based companies, there'd be more sponsorships and maybe the sport would reach full potential. 75% of UK racers are on American companies' frames, but no American companies are supporting UK BMX. UK riders/racers need to see the bigger picture.
Guilty as charged, 6 race bikes in the house and only one is a UK bike and that's mine which dosn't get much use. :-[
You make a very good point Mike ;)
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No worries Lee. It's aways been the case that most people want American bikes.
I stand corrected on my above statement. Free Agent and Profile do their bit direct from the US.
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Yep second that very good point Mike.
I think one of the problems is there's no (or very little) people out there who understand what is needed to build a good solid and reliable race frame (engineering/geometry/bike frame wielding)..... + there's all the R&D involved that goes into it.........:-(
The people who have a good history and pedigree will reap the benefits over the coming years ........that’s one thing I’m sure of
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Bring back Raleigh then. ;)
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Zippy, you have the contacts, get on to them. I'd love to see Raleigh back on the scene (as long as they made decent bikes, Burners!).
But I think Raleigh is run by bean counters not riding enthusiasts these days.
I'd love to design a range of BMX bikes for Raleigh (decent ones) as regardless of what people think of the actual bikes, the Burner brand is still strong.
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The problem Raleigh has is it's in a no win situation. They could re badge a Dialled frame and still nobody would buy it because it has Raleigh written on it.
Raleigh is a business and is in existence to make money and unfortunately there isn't market for a decent race frame produced by them. They have to go mass market just to get a return.
They did offer to build me a custom built race frame so I could ride in Raleigh colours but it kind of petered out in the end when the guy pushing it left.
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I hear what you're saying Si, but the Raleigh Burner brand is still strong in BMX and with the right marketing strategy they could give it another go if they were prepared to speculate to accumulate.
I've never been on Burner World, but I understand it has a strong following/membership. That's the market they need to tap into (as long as there are people on Burner World who actually ride and who's kids ride, rather than just people who collect bikes but never ride them).
I'm not a big fan of Raleigh, but I can see its potential. It's a pity the people running it have no desire or ambition to make it big again.
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Same problem with most bigger companies these days..........run by accounts :'(
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Hi Forum,
There seems to be some misinformation flying around on Pure's BMX frame, so i thought I'd clarify.
Rob Vernon is the man behind The Pure Bicycle Company. The tech and design work is carried out by us at Sabbath Bicycles (www.sabbathbicycles.co.uk) under contract to Rob and Pure Bicycles. Pure own the design rights and its all their Intellectual Property. Sabbath is my company, we've been producing road and mountain bike frames for three years now with good success in the UK, but we're still a pretty small outfit so we can respond to specific requirements.
When Rob at Pure asked for our tech input, it was exciting to have the opportunity to get involved in another facet of bike design. So, they are not designed by the same co that does British Cycling's track or road bikes. They are designed by my brother, Dr Iain Roche, who works closely with Rob's riders. Manufacturing is overseen by us on Pure's behalf. As to design budget, it certainly wasn't massive, its been what it needed to be to get the work done. Neither Iain or i are rich just yet.
As to Shaneze's involvement, she is currently riding Pure on a test basis. Any contract she has would be between Pure and herself, but i know that we are being asked to produce framesets specifically for her to test.
Lastly, glad to see the look of the frame divides people. Rob's brief to us was to take a completely fresh look at BMX design, and thats what Iain has done. He'd be better giving you the tech low down than me. I just answer the phones and allow the bills to come in with my name on.
Greg
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Hi Greg,
Welcome to Rad :daumenhoch: Glad to see there is still some engineering/businessman talent out there keep it up Fella ;)
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Greg - nice one for appearing here and fronting up. You may wish you hadn't :D :D :D
Good luck with the bike. I don't mind it to look at and judge them by how they ride.
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after doin a couple yrs on an old school bike ,,,my intensions are to go for a new school frameset and if possible im gonna get a pure as they look as rad as i ride
russ nebmx
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blimey i think i started a good thread here
i gotta say i do like the look of the bike and as its a small british company that makes it more apealing to me
if i had a larger budget for this years cruiser i would have got a dialled instead of the kuwi as mike said in an earlier post we gotta start backing uk products
at the daggers regional i noticed a load of dialled bikes which is great lets hope pure get it right and we see just as many of them
its not to everyones taste but if people start winning on it and it proves to be reliable then im sure they will sell
intense seem to be very popular and are of a simular design
thanks sabbath for coming on and clearing up some facts :daumenhoch:
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so just to get this straight,
1, you're a mountain-bike company that wants to cream a little cash out of bmx
2, none of you actually ride bmx
3, you have a bike company called "sabbath", did you nick the name straight from s&m bikes?
4, you set out to build a "fresh new bmx design" then built a frame that looks the same as every other apart from the pointlessly bent seatpost tube,
5, youre "glad" the most of us think its ugly as fook,
alarm bells are ringing rob :LolLolLolLol:
why not just stick to building mtb's and buy yourself a nice shiney car instead? ;)
yet another "flash in the pan bmx company"
right there.
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i gotta say i do like the look of the bike and as its a small british company that makes it more apealing to me
is that why you ride that taiwanese made corporation backed "kuwahara"
(inverted comma's as its NOTHING to do with the genuine,real,old school kuwahara's.......apart from the name on the stickers)
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it states in the post i put if i had the money as i was on a tight budget as i was out of work for 3 months hence the taiwanese made corporation backed "kuwahara" i got a whole bike and more for the same price of a dialled frame
so that answers your snidey question
whats your problem fella ?
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so just to get this straight,
1, you're a mountain-bike company that wants to cream a little cash out of bmx
2, none of you actually ride bmx
3, you have a bike company called "sabbath", did you nick the name straight from s&m bikes?
4, you set out to build a "fresh new bmx design" then built a frame that looks the same as every other apart from the pointlessly bent seatpost tube,
5, youre "glad" the most of us think its ugly as fook,
alarm bells are ringing rob :LolLolLolLol:
why not just stick to building mtb's and buy yourself a nice shiney car instead? ;)
yet another "flash in the pan bmx company"
right there.
Hey Joe (where you goin' with that gun in your hand :2gunsfiring_v1: )
From what I can tell, Rob Vernon owns Pure Bikes and Sabbath Bicycles designs/manufactures them for Pure. I'm not sure Pure is trying to cash in on BMX as Rob Vernon's son (Ethan) is a top young racer and I'm not even sure these bikes will be available outside of the Pure/EA team. And Sabbath aren't selling any BMX frames under their own brand.
I know you're passionate about BMX and the direction it goes in (like me).
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so just to get this straight,
1, you're a mountain-bike company that wants to cream a little cash out of bmx
Or a bike company that makes MTB's and wants to diversify into other areas.
2, none of you actually ride bmx
I don't use lip balm but that doesn't stop my company making them.
3, you have a bike company called "sabbath", did you nick the name straight from s&m bikes?
Or the band perhaps. I wouldn't mind seeing Ozzie doing a tabletop!
4, you set out to build a "fresh new bmx design" then built a frame that looks the same as every other apart from the pointlessly bent seatpost tube,
Yeah, you could have built a frame that looked EXACTLY like all the others instead of trying something a little different
5, youre "glad" the most of us think its ugly as fook,
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
yet another "flash in the pan bmx company"
right there.
Seriously mate, how negative can you get in one post. I don't know much about new school BMX, but it's a good job not everyone has your attitude or nothing would ever evolve and move on.
I don't know you but if you're as passionate about BMX as it appears from other comments, perhaps a little support for niche manufacturers would be an idea. And as for cashing in on BMX, name me a company involved in BMX that doesn't and I'll prove otherwise. Look at their accounts and see the shareholders dividends (even if it's a privately owned company) and Directors remunderation - that's why ALL companies are in business unless they're a charity (and then some of them stretch that!)
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Joe.......i think the term is....(as my son would say) Owned! :LolLolLolLol:
;)
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And as for cashing in on BMX, name me a company involved in BMX that doesn't and I'll prove otherwise. Look at their accounts and see the shareholders dividends (even if it's a privately owned company) and Directors remunderation - that's why ALL companies are in business unless they're a charity (and then some of them stretch that!)
Never paid myself a salary or drawn a dividend from Dialled Bikes Ltd. Only thing I get out of it is the odd free frame/bike parts/kit and expenses to travel to races/stay in hotels. Not saying I don't want to make money in the long term, but for now, it's definitely a labour of love, not a cash cow.
People often talk about job satisfaction without really knowing what it means. Job satisfaction for me is everytime I see one of my team win a title or someone telling me how much they enjoy riding one of my frames.
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Haven't you heard of him(DSD) ;) he's a current well respected bmx racer who attends all the regionals and nationals and beats everyone (not) :LolLolLolLol:
I raced at derby nat and from what i could see all the EA pure riders were at the thick end of the moto's and finals and the same on sunday at the midlands/eastanglia regional and i certainly wouldn't want to tell mr mapp he's bike is ugly ::)
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Fair comment, but all I'm trying to say is knocking a company for making a profit is pretty stupid. All companies need to make a profit to stay in business. They shouldn't be ashamed of trying to be profitable.
Seems to me to be pretty ignorant to knock a company for "cashing in on BMX" just because they launch a frame and race it.
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I got to see these frames up close yesterday and really liked the look of the junior size but the pro sizes are just not my bag, good on ya for having a go at something different but Mikes Ti Dialled cruiser was a thing of pure beauty ( ;) pun intended) and just more bicycle motocross in my book
:) DINGO :)
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so just to get this straight,
1, you're a mountain-bike company that wants to cream a little cash out of bmx
2, none of you actually ride bmx
3, you have a bike company called "sabbath", did you nick the name straight from s&m bikes?
4, you set out to build a "fresh new bmx design" then built a frame that looks the same as every other apart from the pointlessly bent seatpost tube,
5, youre "glad" the most of us think its ugly as fook,
alarm bells are ringing rob :LolLolLolLol:
why not just stick to building mtb's and buy yourself a nice shiney car instead? ;)
yet another "flash in the pan bmx company"
right there.
Joe I`m sorry but this is one area of bmx you know nothing about, racing is a totally different disipline to street, park or vert, I`ve found that out over the last 18 months or so since I started racing, that frame and fork look no better or worse than most of the top end race combo`s :yahoo_silent:
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"cashing in on BMX"
there we go,
pwned ;)
i'll agree billy,
i dont race as i'm not a battyman ;)
you've got to admit though,
its a fooking ugly frame ;) :LolLolLolLol:
developement my arse.
(thats a full stop)
btw i'll tell "mappy" or whatever his name is that his bike looks shit,
and if he disagree's i might just fook him right where he breathes.
gobshite i may be but if you met me you'd see why i can be.
lip balm?
pufter.
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anyways, we digress,
just my opinion,
even if i do know more about bmx than any of you ;)
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As a pitch to become a moderator this aint ya best Joe :2funny:
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As a pitch to become a moderator this aint ya best Joe :2funny:
i cant help it bill, it just comes out :LolLolLolLol:
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As a pitch to become a moderator this aint ya best Joe :2funny:
i cant help it bill, it just comes out :LolLolLolLol:
There`s been some crackers tonight Joe, I laughed then felt guilty because it was out of order :2funny:
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pure tihs on ere :D
:crazy2:
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Frames are for sale approx £650.00 :shocked:
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Frames are for sale approx £650.00 :shocked:
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LOL wouldn't have been quicker to type PMSL
wouldn't have the same effect though would it. ;D
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I think they probably will.
Rob's a good guy, He's always helped MK out, still does even though Eathan is no longer an MK member.
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Frames are for sale approx £650.00 :shocked:
Great price for a Ti frame.
Maybe I should see if Sabbath Bicycles are interested in making my Technique frames. Less sophisticated design (but backed up by numerous world, euro and national finals/titles) so shouldn't be any more expensive to construct than a Pure.
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A little update guys, heard this from a close source.
It looks like some of Shanaze's team will be testing and riding Alloy framed proto's pretty soon.
The alloy version should be a hell of a lot more affordable, and let's face (Mike back me up) BMXers in the UK always want a deal and stuff cheaper, as a sport we are all pretty cheap (even I like to get a deal).
An alloy version won't look much uglier than a Podium (Intense), or a Staats (real ugly and way too long back ends).
And speaking to Shanaze last weekend, she's seems pretty pleased with the frame. I'm not going to argue with her!! ;)
Sutty
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and let's face (Mike back me up) BMXers in the UK always want a deal and stuff cheaper, as a sport we are all pretty cheap (even I like to get a deal).
Fair comment. Compared to the mountain bike market, the BMX market is much smaller and less affluent.
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:) Wonder where that leaves Koxx-with a pile of Shanaze frames?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/hh43/heywoodbmx/L_Shazamframe.jpg)
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How old is that picture, James? Shanaze hasn't ridden for Koxx for over 2-3 years.
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http://www.k-124.co.uk/product.php?product_id=111&category_id=36
It's on their website Mike..
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Well I went to Burnham National today where the Pure team had both their tents set up and was there. Got chatting to the guys like you do and they asked me what im riding now and i said "a Pro XL" they said "We've just got the thing" and they let me sit on one of their team riders Pro XL's and it was ubber lush!! :smitten: all the top parts on it and they've even given me their card so we can arrange a time/date to have a go all day at their private test track! :smitten:
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This is the actual bike i sat on!!
http://www.thepurebicyclecompany.co.uk/pro-xl.html
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saw one at royston on tuesday thought it looked really nice , cant see why anyone could say it just there to make a quick buck , why shouldnt there be a BRITISH frame builder pushing the limits of design .
good on them we need more like pure and dialed bikes out there doing it for the love of bmx be intresting to see a criuser hay us old boys need all the help to go faster
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sorry Zack......stick some Ruption stickers on it more like..........just looks horrible in my oppinion.
Toys R us ???
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It may not be the best looking thing but its such a niiiccceeee biiikkkeee! :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: