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Title: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 06, 2008, 06:47 PM
Just read over on BMXTalk that you are gonna need a British Cycling membership if you wanna race more than 2 summer regionals and hence the Brits, will this affect the OS class and will you pay to play?

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: JT Smooth on November 06, 2008, 06:51 PM
Happy to pay, just renewed a couple of weeks ago.

£15 aint bad  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 06, 2008, 07:01 PM
Happy to pay, just renewed a couple of weeks ago.

£15 aint bad  :daumenhoch:

you have to have a silver or Gold mambership to race apparently? starts at £35 for Silver plus your £15.50 licence on top

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: JT Smooth on November 06, 2008, 07:05 PM
Thats a C@nt! Will have to check Talk out  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 06, 2008, 07:05 PM
My feelings exactly, numbers will drop for sure

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: billstup on November 06, 2008, 07:08 PM
Yes you will need one to race old school as it will be a recognised class next year, but I think you only need Bronze to race regionals, Silver or Gold for Nationals, btbh the Silver gives better insurance so is what most people go for.

Don`t buy one before the 1st Jan 09 though as the licence runs from Jan to Dec no matter when you buy it, so if you bought it now it would run out on the 31st Dec08  :(
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: se-bmxer on November 06, 2008, 07:09 PM
Yes you will need one to race old school as it will be a recognised class next year, but I think you only need Bronze to race regionals, Silver or Gold for Nationals, btbh the Silver gives better insurance so is what most people go for.

Don`t buy one before the 1st Jan 09 though as the licence runs from Jan to Dec no matter when you buy it, so if you bought it now it would run out on the 31st Dec08  :(

there doing an OAP discount just for you next year Stupple  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 06, 2008, 07:14 PM
Silver or Gold membership plus a racing licence:
All regional racing between May and September
Regional Championships
National Series events
British Championships


for 2009 ^^^ thats the new ruling

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: billstup on November 06, 2008, 07:18 PM
Yes you will need one to race old school as it will be a recognised class next year, but I think you only need Bronze to race regionals, Silver or Gold for Nationals, btbh the Silver gives better insurance so is what most people go for.

Don`t buy one before the 1st Jan 09 though as the licence runs from Jan to Dec no matter when you buy it, so if you bought it now it would run out on the 31st Dec08  :(

there doing an OAP discount just for you next year Stupple  :LolLolLolLol:

Well you`ve just joined my age class Jai  :-X
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: JT Smooth on November 06, 2008, 07:21 PM
Yes you will need one to race old school as it will be a recognised class next year, but I think you only need Bronze to race regionals, Silver or Gold for Nationals, btbh the Silver gives better insurance so is what most people go for.

Don`t buy one before the 1st Jan 09 though as the licence runs from Jan to Dec no matter when you buy it, so if you bought it now it would run out on the 31st Dec08  :(

Silver and Gold are until end of Dec, bronze is for 12 months from date of purchase  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: THIRSTYKIRSTY on November 06, 2008, 07:30 PM
MY LICENSE AND SILVER MEMBERSHIP COST ME 65 QUID LAST YR???

R
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: Humps00 on November 08, 2008, 09:41 AM
the Silver gives better insurance so is what most people go for

The Gold membership gives Personal Accident Cover (not investigated the details but I'm sure someone on here has) but as far as I know the Silver only gives you Liability Insurance to cover a situation if you were being sued by someone for an incident.  Humps
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moomin on November 08, 2008, 09:42 AM
There was a thread in Old School and generally people said it was a good idea to have licenses anyways for insurance etc :daumenhoch:

The Old School is an official class and so we now have to comply with BCF, most people are racing other classes so will have a license anyway. If it's £65 then it's £65, not a lot anyone can do about it tbh :-X
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on November 08, 2008, 10:53 AM
the Silver gives better insurance so is what most people go for

The Gold membership gives Personal Accident Cover (not investigated the details but I'm sure someone on here has) but as far as I know the Silver only gives you Liability Insurance to cover a situation if you were being sued by someone for an incident.  Humps

Correct! :daumenhoch:

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Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on November 08, 2008, 10:59 AM
I'm still not sure about a Bronze Membership for racing at Regionals!!!  ???

The Bronze Membership gives a Provisional Racing License and doesn't cover injury or liability!!

So what use is it?   ???
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: JT Smooth on November 08, 2008, 11:11 AM
So does the cost of Silver and Gold include a Race Licence or is that extra and if so ££££????
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on November 08, 2008, 11:52 AM
Membership gives you Cover (Liability or Injury or both)

Racing License is £15.50 extra in top.

Racing License is for Silver or Gold Members ONLY.

Bronze membership has a Provisional License thrown in with it but you get no Liability or Injury or legal fees or anything.

So what is the point of having a Bronze membership?

It might give you a Provisional License......................but does that mean you can race Regional BMX Races on it!!

I personally will go with the GOLD membership.   It has Liability if you get sued, Injury protection (not great values but its something) and Legal fees cover.  Also it covers you when your dossing on your bike in your back yard or down on some wasteland jumping off some bodged crappy ramp.   It covers travelling to and from BCF event too (so maybe it will cover crashing your car).
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: Humps00 on November 08, 2008, 12:18 PM
So what is the point of having a Bronze membership?

It might give you a Provisional License......................but does that mean you can race Regional BMX Races on it!!

Latest change from BC is that a Bronze membership will not be acceptable for SUMMER Regionals as per quote from BC minutes:
" The following BC licensing requirements will be implemented for 2009:

Open to any rider with or without BC membership:
Open races
Club races
Winter regionals
A maximum of 2 summer regionals if they have taken place before May
Novice racing at regionals "
So it seems that you must take out a Silver or Gold licence if you intend to ride the summer series in any Region which is added to the £15.50 membership.  Not sure if the "Youth and Under 12" free bit for Gold & Sliver licence holders still applies or if everyone is expected to pay the same.  Looks like if you're over 17 then you'll be paying £50.50 minimum if you intend to do Regionals & above.  'kin hell!!  That means I'll be shelling out for at least one of my moto-fillers who's currently at Uni and not earning a bean!!  Humps
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on November 08, 2008, 03:41 PM
Nice one Humps!!  :daumenhoch:

Thats cleared it up!!

For the Old School Class :-

Winter Regionals = No Membership and No License is required!!  :)

Summer Regionals = Silver £35 or Gold £62 Membership + Racing License £15.50 (Total fees - Silver £50.50 and Gold £77.50)

NB.  Dont forget!!!  The Racing License is Jan 1st to Dec 31st.   BCF Membership is 1 year from date you join or renew!!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: nishiki14 on November 11, 2008, 12:15 AM
I spoke to Roger at the BCF sometime ago and he said that the minimum requirement to ride Oldschool in the summer for Regionals and the Brits was "Bronze Membership" and NO race licence, now I understand that the membership has been changed to "Silver" but does anyone know if we now need the "Race licence" too? Coz I dont know :idiot2:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moomin on November 11, 2008, 07:12 AM
As it is an official class the old school will be required to have the same license as all other recognised classes, this year all that was required was a bronze membership, if the BCF decide that silver is required for Regional and the Brits then that is what everyone will have to pay for.
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: thecrooch on November 11, 2008, 08:50 AM
Sam

you have to have a race licence to race - simple really....

no one seems to have mentioned that you get a discount on your first year...
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on November 11, 2008, 09:19 AM
Bronze Membership has a Provisional Racing license included in the price.

Because OS wasn't an official class, thats why you could race on it!

As Nikki said, it's now an official class and you need a Full Racing License.

A Racing License is ONLY available to Silver and Gold Members.

So if you race in the Summer Series you'll have to stump up the dosh.

no one seems to have mentioned that you get a discount on your first year...

If you get a discount on your 1st year then thats good to know!!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: motomagII on November 11, 2008, 02:34 PM
well iwas happy to get the bronze licence but after the winter series i reckon its getting more and more cost wise to race and it will probably be my last season as costs are getting too much especially when you are talking 60/70 quids to fork out in one go

Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on November 11, 2008, 03:00 PM
£77.50 for Gold with Liability, Legal fees and Personal Injury Cover +  Membership and Racing License isn't too bad!

It covers you for any Racing involving cycling under the BCF umbrella and includes and any leisure cycling too!  :daumenhoch:

I might even try a road race for a laff!! :D
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moomin on November 11, 2008, 06:01 PM
well iwas happy to get the bronze licence but after the winter series i reckon its getting more and more cost wise to race and it will probably be my last season as costs are getting too much especially when you are talking 60/70 quids to fork out in one go



Imagine having 4 Gold licences to buy :shocked: we'll be doing them gradually but knowing we're fully protected liability wise :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: billstup on November 11, 2008, 08:45 PM
I paid £85 last year for a family silver membership which included licences for the kids for free I think  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on November 11, 2008, 09:12 PM
BCF Membership for 2 Adults and 8 Children = Gold £134 or Silver £80

I think that doesn't include the Racing Licenses, so you'd have to add £15.50 per person (over 18 years old).

Youth and Under 12 (Born 1992 or after) get a FREE Racing Licenses if they have Gold/Silver Membership

Junior is £6.25 (Born (1990 or 1991) for a Racing License if they have Gold/Silver Membership

Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: Dex Dexter on November 24, 2008, 11:42 AM
Might be a simple question but where do I go to get these memberships and licences (I will get one for me and some of the kids)?

The price is a fair bit but being protected is good news.

I have just started a new job and don't get any sick pay for the next three months!  Certainly running the risk considering my crash yesterday.
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on November 24, 2008, 12:16 PM
Dex!!, read the Previous Posts!!

Racing license runs Jan to Dec so dont buy one yet!!  Also you dont need a license to race in the Winter Series!

I'd wait until Jan 1st!!

Buy yourself some Brand X body armour and Knee/shin pads.  Cheap and effective!!  I dont leave home without them!!  :LolLolLolLol:

DONT get a family membership if its just you and your lad!!   It ONLY works out cheaper for 2 adults + kids!!

Your kid doesn't need a race license either!!

The payouts for injuries isn't too great!!   Make sure you understand the cover you are getting. 

http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/site/BC/bchome/home.asp
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: Dex Dexter on November 24, 2008, 08:01 PM
Don't worry - I wont buy before next year.

I may try and get my girls involved too, but I reckon only one of them is up for it.

So... if I need to check the cover I guess I can't ride with the gay abandon I am used to?
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 17, 2008, 04:56 PM
WTF!!

I have just looked at renewing my membership and racing license!!

It now cost £64 instead of £62 for the Gold Membership!!  (thats okay)

But the racing license has gone from £15.50 to £32!!

Is this right or I have clicked on the wrong link!!  :(
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: thecrooch on December 17, 2008, 08:28 PM
nope thats the one.... welcome to the family of the BCF!!!

did you get the renewal email that kindly reminds you that your racing license is expiring end of the year (as they all do) even though (my) BCF license doesnt expire until april...  but you have to do them together... what a crock of sh*t!   

im not thinking about it at the moment... I wont need the racing license until the summer series start so im going to do mine then! it doesnt bother me if it expires the winter series dont need a license.....

fookin robbbin barstewards




Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 17, 2008, 08:43 PM
Yep fook them!!

Over 100% increase.  WTF!!  :shocked:

I'll renew in April.  They might drop thier prices by then!!

Fookin' Bikey Pikey's!!  >:(
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: thecrooch on December 17, 2008, 09:03 PM
they wont but there is no need in spending the money this month when there are a billion other things to be spending it on...

Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: hooga1975 on December 17, 2008, 09:28 PM
robbing bastards.  Dont they know they is a credit crunch on
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 18, 2008, 12:07 AM
Are they making us pay for the next Olympics?

10% increase is okay

20% increase I can sort of live with!!

but 100%+ increase................................................ >:(
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: Peter J on December 18, 2008, 09:00 AM
Looks that way re: Paying for 2010.......Typical short sighted mentality.......up the cost so parents cannot afford to get their kids into the sport.......good way of getting new blood into the sport..........not!!!

Typical committee.................take minutes.............waste hours........... :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: dialledbikes on December 18, 2008, 03:14 PM
BCF needs all the cash it can get.  It's not like they just got £24m in funding or owt is it  :10_2_12: ;)
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 18, 2008, 03:26 PM
There is already a fuss about regionals needing a silver membership or higher!

And now they more than double the cost of the Racing license!

How can anyone justify that in this economic climate!!  >:(

up the cost so parents cannot afford to get their kids into the sport

Kids racing license is free.

Maybe they are trying to get rid of any oldies!!  :shocked:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: motomagII on December 18, 2008, 04:48 PM
if its gonna be 100.00 for licenses before i even race which is 7.00 a meet i reckon i will only be doing the winter series then hanging up me bike ,i just cant afford to spend 100 bucks like that and the wife wouldnt be best pleased either
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: motomagII on December 18, 2008, 05:27 PM
in fact ive just sent the chainman an email explaining my feelings towards the costs and asked them how they can justify their charges when bmx needs promoting and setting costs higher than people can afford aint gonna help at all.lets see if i get any form of decent response

moley you have pm
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: Dex Dexter on December 18, 2008, 05:34 PM
if its gonna be 100.00 for licenses before i even race which is 7.00 a meet i reckon i will only be doing the winter series then hanging up me bike ,i just cant afford to spend 100 bucks like that and the wife wouldnt be best pleased either


Yeah but don't stop racing - just mabey don't buy £100 worth of bits next year.

Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: motomagII on December 18, 2008, 05:40 PM
yeah but the bits are worth it and not just a piece of paper for 1 season saying ya can race .
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 18, 2008, 06:04 PM
Fook 'em

Just turn up for the Summer Series!

Wear an assortment of wigs and disguises and change ya name!!

You can race 3 times before needing a license but you could stretch it longer!!

What are they going to say 'No'.

They'd prefer the £7 rather than none!!
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: OrgasmDonor on December 18, 2008, 07:38 PM
it is a shocking and disapointing rise, its really pi$$ed me off, i will be able to scrape it together but FFS! its gonna kill it for a lot of people.
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 18, 2008, 08:07 PM
The money doesn't bother me!!

But WTF are they playing at!!

To make everyone have Silver or Gold Memberships to race regionals and then to double the race license!!

If I joined this year and they said the race license and Gold membership would cost £96 then I would just pay it!!

But to double it, when I know last year's was £15.50.

What do we get for this price hike?

Isn't it just a license to race!!

It doesn't it do anything other than that!

All our 3rd party liabilities etc, etc are part of the Membership fees!!

I've just written an email to The Sun telling them about it and to investigate it!!

They'll probably do fook all but I thought it would be a laff!!  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: motomagII on December 22, 2008, 05:42 AM
just got reply email from roger wilbrham at bcc and he has confirmed we must have their silver or gold  next summer but if doing regionals only you do not have to buy the licence as well as this so result i think as were 35.00 better off than we thought we wewre going to be  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 22, 2008, 11:21 AM
Are you sure Gregster?

They may be pulling a fast one!!  ???

If you dont need a Racing License then that saves £32 (regionals ONLY) but you need to pay at least £36 for a silver membership!!

So basically he's saying pay for Silver (at least) and you can race regionals on your provisional license.

If you can race regionals on a Provisional License then why do you need a Silver Membership?

Any membership including Bronze will give you a provisional license!!

Maybe he wants you to get silver for the 3rd party cover in case you injure another rider or spectator at a cycling event!!



I bought a Silver last year and a Racing License. Does a Provisional license come with  a Issue Number so that you can fill in your Entry form correctly?

I haven't seen a Provisional license, so I dont know!!
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: motomagII on December 22, 2008, 05:07 PM
my bronze has provisional on it from now with reg no .he also says if you buy your race licence if you need one after or during jusy each year they are reduced to half price then .
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 22, 2008, 05:56 PM
my bronze has provisional on it from now with reg no .he also says if you buy your race licence if you need one after or during jusy each year they are reduced to half price then .

Yu must lurn 2 speke proppa inglish Greg!!  :LolLolLolLol:

Let me see if I get your drift!!

A Bronze Membership has Provisional Racing License and a Racing License Number printed on it and if you buy a racing license after the start of the year (i.e in time for the summer series) then the price is reduced from £32 to £16.

Is that correct!!  ???

If it is then the cheap route to race regionals in the Summer (all classes) is a Bronze Membership!

If you want 3rd Party Cover then buy the Silver Membership.

If you want Full Cover then buy the Gold Membership.

ONLY buy the Racing License if you want to race Nationals etc, etc.

AND if possible, buy your Racing License as far into the year as possible so that hopefully you can buy it for Half price!!

How does that sound Gregster!!  ???
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: motomagII on December 22, 2008, 07:28 PM
nearly bronze is no good must be silver minimum
if you buy your race licence for that year after july its half price as they only last 12 months so in reality i presume you will get 6 months out of it but then wont need one again for the winter series
make sense now lol
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 22, 2008, 09:51 PM
No!!

just got reply email from roger wilbrham at bcc and he has confirmed we must have their silver or gold  next summer but if doing regionals only you do not have to buy the licence as well as this so result i think as were 35.00 better off than we thought we wewre going to be  :daumenhoch:

Unless you pay for a Racing License, you will get a FREE Provisional License with Bronze, Silver or Gold Membership!!

If you pay for a Silver Membership and you dont buy a Racing license then you must be racing on the 'FREE' Provisional Racing License.

If that's the case then you should be able to race on a Bronze Membership too!!

http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/site/BC/mem/fb/membership_benefits.asp

http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/site/BC/mem/membership_frequently_asked_questions.asp

You should have asked Roger if you can race BMX regionals in the Summer with a Provisional License!!

If he say's 'Yes' then you can race with a Bronze Membership!!

I would go with the Silver or Gold but for those on a really tight budget, it would be good to know the minimum cost of racing!!


If Roger say's you need a Silver Membership and No Race License to race regionals (just the Free Provisional Race License) then the reason must be for the 3rd Party insurance ONLY!

I can't see any other reason than that to buy the Silver Membership?  :-\
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: thecrooch on December 23, 2008, 08:36 AM
and i think thats the reason....  have you tried to renew yours Moley - it doesnt allow you to do anything different!
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 23, 2008, 11:52 AM
I will renew my Silver Membership when it expires!!

So that will give me the FREE Provisional Racing License.

I will get Silver in case my riding style injures another rider!!  ::)

If Greg is correct then I'll be able to race the Summer Series on that and not pay for a Racing License!!

I suggest that anybody who doesn't want to pay for Silver Membership and wants to race then just buy the Bronze.

I dont think the officials in the North will turn away £7 just because your racing a Bronze Membership and a FREE Provisional Racing License!!

I wont be racing any Nationals but I might film a few of them so the lack of a Full Racing License doesn't bother me.

We were always nagged about Memberships and Racing License in the North before we went 'Official' because in the North we were always recognised as a proper class.

So nothing has changed for us!

It does seem a shame now that the rest of the regions get recognised and racing now becomes too expensive to draw new riders into OS.  Which has a knock on effect because OS riders will not be moving up to the Cruiser classes when their riding improves!

OS is entry level racing, well it is for me!!  :LolLolLolLol:

 


Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: motomagII on December 24, 2008, 07:14 AM
you have to get minimum silver because of the liability insurance thingy attatched with it .greg
 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 24, 2008, 09:30 AM
you have to get minimum silver because of the liability insurance thingy attatched with it .greg

Cheers Greg!!  :daumenhoch:

Right, its finally sorted then!!

Silver Membership to race Regionals in the Summer and NO need for a Racing License!!

You'll just be racing on the Provisional Racing License which comes FREE with the Silver Membership!

So MINIMUM cost to race ANY Senior Class at Regionals in the Summer is £36.

Note.  For Nationals and British Championships you'd need to buy a FULL Racing License!!
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: Haro82 on December 24, 2008, 10:44 AM

What do you actually get for being recognised ?  If we weren't then we would just be able to race in a novice class which would I presume be a masters novice class and the race fees would be less and Moley being the star he is could work out the points and stuff because the north region don't seem to be doing that (if they are they are not advertising them)  >:( 

 It seems ludicrous that a newbie cannot pitch up at a regional and race without a silver licence  :uglystupid2: because at the end of the day a regional is the only place that you can get a good race because BMX isn't that big that club races have enough riders.     

The only question here would be about winning a couple of races, are you supposed to move up ?       

Discuss  :)
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 24, 2008, 11:14 AM
You can pitch up and race at a regional!!

You are allowed to race 3 times in the summer series before you have to buy a membership!!

In the North I dont think we were ever a Novice Class.  We were always treated as a proper class!!

We always paid the £7 fee and they always nagged us to get a membership after you'd been a couple of times!!!

I think the £7 to race is cheaper than other regions too!!  :daumenhoch:

I think the only difference this time around is that you are forced to buy the Silver Membership instead of the cheaper Bronze Membership!!

And thats only because the Silver Membership has 3rd Party Insurance against injury to another rider!!

It just looks like the BCF are covering their own asses!!

I dont think the North would turn anyone away, so if you dont want to pay it then just turn up and give some bullshit excuse that you've forgot your membership or that it has been posted to the club yet, Blah, Blah!!

Silver isn't too bad though!!  If you get sued by another rider then your covered.  It might come in useful...........especially for me!!  :LolLolLolLol:

At least you dont have to buy the Racing License as well!!  :daumenhoch:

Remember!  Winter Racing is FREE,  just turn up and pay to race!!   :)
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: region11 on December 24, 2008, 08:07 PM
So glad its not complicated then  :buck2:
Title: Re: BC membership/license for 2009
Post by: moley on December 24, 2008, 08:31 PM
I think its all sorted now!!

But no one is happy about it!!  :(
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