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Old School BMX 1980 - 1988 => Old School Freestyle (frame stands and kickturns galore!) => Topic started by: rosscoe on July 21, 2008, 09:30 PM

Title: so whats next
Post by: rosscoe on July 21, 2008, 09:30 PM
guess many of you probably think the same as me - in so much as what is possible on a bike now is absolutely madness

from the brakeless flatland - to the flowing trails - big street drops and vert playstation tricks - unbelievable really

so - 10 years ago if you would have suggested triple whips or double whip flairs 8' out a vert ramp were possible I doubt many would have believed you

so what do we see happening in another 10 years???
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: DJ on July 21, 2008, 09:32 PM
full circle, simplicity will replace the madness...
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Flatcap on July 21, 2008, 10:36 PM
full circle, simplicity will replace the madness...

Totally agree, style will ALWAYS overcome madness.

A lot of riders like Jamie Bestwick are now doing much simpler, more stylish variations and doing then high, stylish and smooth.

If you see someone do a very basic (by todays standards anyway) one footer, or can can air but high and stylish it still gives you that warm feeling. Mad is good but style rules! The only thing that beats it is when you're fortunate enough to have style and the madness like the chosen few, you know who they are.

Exhibit A: Mr David Frame @ Livi Skatepark around 1985 (I think)

20 odd years on and this is still as rad as it comes, super high and more style that you can shake a big fooking stylish stick at!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/j46/Flatcap1968/LIVI.jpg)
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: superbikedan on July 21, 2008, 10:43 PM
yes agree with DJ, these kids learn every trick but the height is being lost and so

is the style,  there so desperate for the trick but can't send it big,

get back to learning style, :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Philbert on July 21, 2008, 10:59 PM
us is whats going to happen next, these kids that are around today will have grown hair in funny places and noticed that there is an opposite to man.

what will be left will be the same people that have been there for the last 25 years, style and flow will be everything again!
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Flatcap on July 21, 2008, 11:09 PM
us is whats going to happen next, these kids that are around today will have grown hair in funny places and noticed that there is an opposite to man.

what will be left will be the same people that have been there for the last 25 years, style and flow will be everything again!

You don't often talk much sense but for once you have  :LolLolLolLol:

Well said Phil.

Daz.
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: jedi on July 21, 2008, 11:12 PM
the hairy magnet changes everything   >:D
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: macky on July 21, 2008, 11:19 PM

I'd love to see a comeback of older variations on vert that no one seems to do anymore...

No foot candy bars...

pendelums...

bar hops...

etc........

I agree that style may replace the more burley tricks..... i hope it does too a bit!!

but there will always be those riders doing front flip flair double whips 10ft out the vert...  ::)

Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Trev on July 21, 2008, 11:51 PM
i'd like some old styles to come back too.
a nice one hander one footer. topside hand down side foot. ron wilkerson style.

when was the last time you saw tricks like candy bars, one handed cancans, cancan x-ups, one hander no footers, rocket airs, nothing airs, indian airs.
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Arma on July 22, 2008, 12:04 AM
was gonna post but im to hammered  maybe tommorow.......
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: macky on July 22, 2008, 12:59 AM
  :LolLolLolLol:  :LolLolLolLol:  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Stodgy on July 22, 2008, 08:48 AM

when was the last time you saw tricks like candy bars, one handed cancans, cancan x-ups, one hander no footers, rocket airs, nothing airs, indian airs.

Hoffman, Masters 2007. He da man.
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: welsh denny on July 23, 2008, 09:12 PM
a rad looking trick is a mix of 2 old tricks by jamie bestwick, bringing a fresh look for 08- the tailwhip to stretched 1 hand, 1 foot air. looks rad. it was on vitalbmx dew tour the other month. and the huge carved downside ally whip. style wins.
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Lazarou on July 23, 2008, 09:16 PM
Gut levers.
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: bmxer4ever on July 24, 2008, 10:00 PM
i'd like some old styles to come back too.
a nice one hander one footer. topside hand down side foot. ron wilkerson style.

when was the last time you saw tricks like candy bars, one handed cancans, cancan x-ups, one hander no footers, rocket airs, nothing airs, indian airs.

It's been 20 years since this pic - well, 22 actually! - but just for you Trev, I'll start practicing and bring them back!   :LolLolLolLol:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/mrd132.jpg)
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: bmxer4ever on July 24, 2008, 10:05 PM
full circle, simplicity will replace the madness...

Totally agree, style will ALWAYS overcome madness.

A lot of riders like Jamie Bestwick are now doing much simpler, more stylish variations and doing then high, stylish and smooth.

If you see someone do a very basic (by todays standards anyway) one footer, or can can air but high and stylish it still gives you that warm feeling. Mad is good but style rules! The only thing that beats it is when you're fortunate enough to have style and the madness like the chosen few, you know who they are.

Exhibit A: Mr David Frame @ Livi Skatepark around 1985 (I think)

20 odd years on and this is still as rad as it comes, super high and more style that you can shake a big fooking stylish stick at!


I think you're in love with that pic Daz!!
Did you take it?
It's a little later than '85 - you can always date Livi by the colour of the painted walls!
Great pic by the way - it's rare to see Framey in the bowl - he always seemed to rip the halfpipe when I was there.
G
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: bmxer4ever on July 24, 2008, 10:06 PM
Gut levers.

Now yer talkin' dude!   :LolLolLolLol:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/mrd232.jpg)
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: stuntmaster on July 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
as dj say full circle one day . i miss seeing the old no foot can can that andy brown did as high and straight up as well 
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Arma on July 25, 2008, 11:58 PM
soon as whips and bars are uncool   and back to fukoff   style  airs  the better ...  whips and bars have no style  , ok maybe a 3 whip or a truck is ok  also like all this footjam nonsense it looks filth  , gimee a big air like BILLY  PTELL    anyday..
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: DanCressy on July 26, 2008, 01:26 AM
One foot inverts are all thats needed
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Arma on July 26, 2008, 02:38 AM
yes my son  you have learnt well..  your mum will be pleased,   chip off the ole block
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Flatcap on July 26, 2008, 10:05 AM
Quote
I think you're in love with that pic Daz!!
Did you take it?

Nah Gaz....no idea who took it.

I do love the pic though. It's a bit like the Zak Shaw picture in Roms pool, you really have to have seen or rode that bowl to truly appreciate how rad that air is. It's the same as the one of him doing the can can on the same day - rad as fook! I've always rated DF, superb style!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/j46/Flatcap1968/l_2e3f05f45fb20c68e372c8abe0621835.jpg)
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: bmxer4ever on July 26, 2008, 12:09 PM
Where did you find these pics then Daz? I've never seen them before....
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Flatcap on July 26, 2008, 04:44 PM
Where did you find these pics then Daz? I've never seen them before....

They're on his myspace page dude, I've just checked and it says 1988 was the year.

Daz.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: macky on July 26, 2008, 05:54 PM

No foot can.... Mr Frame......

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb31/mackymc/Landerad007.jpg)

No foot candy bar... Jason ellis... ( I'd love to see riders doin these again!! )

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb31/mackymc/scooter001.jpg)

and i hope big fakies make a come back.... ( proper fakies kids, not just rolling backwards and calling it fakie!!  )

Joe Johnson...... 1988 Tizer worlds.... turndown fakie!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb31/mackymc/scan-1.jpg)
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Flatcap on July 26, 2008, 07:11 PM
Fekkin hell....I've never seen that picture of Jason Ellis before!!

I've spent a few hours with him at the Hudson's ramp!

Wonder where he is these days.

Daz.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: harris on July 26, 2008, 07:19 PM
the 2 last pics rockkkkkkkkkk
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: harris on July 26, 2008, 07:47 PM
this will be next  no mamby pamby sh1te  just riding
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/props-best-of-bmx-1995/215182942


Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: DJ on July 26, 2008, 08:48 PM
one thing Im not into is adding tricks on i.e. triple bars, quad whips, etc etc.... Mark Webb said it well recently when he said "3 is just 1 too many"
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: bmxer4ever on July 27, 2008, 10:08 AM
One foot inverts are all thats needed

Mike Canning
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/California%201988/CALI88-6.jpg)

Joe Johnson
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/California%201988/CALI88-14.jpg)

and me... :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/mrd032.jpg)
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: Flatcap on July 27, 2008, 11:04 AM
I'll tell you what Gaz...you aint half got a quality photo collection dude!  :daumenhoch:

Daz.
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: bmxer4ever on July 27, 2008, 11:50 AM
I'll tell you what Gaz...you aint half got a quality photo collection dude!  :daumenhoch:

Daz.

Cheers Daz - as much as it's great to see a scan from an old magazine, it's much more exciting and fresh to see someone's personal pics, like those ones you put up of Framey - they were new to me.

I'm just lucky that I've always been into taking pics - and luckily, my mates even took some of me! - and I've been lucky enough to have travelled around a bit BITD and took pics of everything I saw!

I've got a whole load of slides - lots from BFA quarterpipe comps - and once I figure out how to get them on here, I'll share them too. There's some belting vert pics in there....

Talking of style and blinding vert pics - you don't get much better than this - one of my favourite airs (it's a scan though!). Lets see more of THIS at the X-Games!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/California%201988/Old%20School/NeilSouthsea.jpg)
Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: macky on July 27, 2008, 03:01 PM
One foot inverts are all thats needed

Mike Canning at Alfreton.......

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb31/mackymc/oldskoolcomppics-RADBMX033.jpg)

Candybars tooo...... Dave Youmg...

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb31/mackymc/oldskoolpicsracinnstuff185.jpg)

Pepi...... Candybar..... ( or uprock! )

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb31/mackymc/oldskoolpicsracinnstuff211.jpg)



Title: Re: so whats next
Post by: jedi on July 27, 2008, 07:23 PM
my mate roscoe was doing candy bars on the charlton mini ramp   :smitten:
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