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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: woody allen bars on December 20, 2007, 04:52 PM

Title: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: woody allen bars on December 20, 2007, 04:52 PM

Just spotted this on another forum, the guy reckons it was Will Smyth's old ride. Interesting frame with no gussets and has 5/8" rear tubes that are welded lower down the seat post than normal. Looks a good 'un and nice hubs too  8)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/prestwick_tower/2124409837/in/set-72157603503539034/

Only hope the guy doesn't go too mad with the 'restoration'!

Craig

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: almasterb on December 20, 2007, 06:03 PM

I'd leave it as is and throw some tyres on it.

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: RyanPartridge on December 20, 2007, 06:15 PM

I'm not sure about that Dirtbike. Canti brakes, no headtube/toptube gusset, strange headtube,...

It has the same sticker set as my 94, and I had buddy growing up that had the same Dirtbike in blue...but it was not that frame.

I'd like to know the serial number.

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: harris on December 20, 2007, 07:03 PM

i hope he doesnt do anything to it.

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: SaMAlex on December 20, 2007, 07:38 PM

Word is its this bike ... and its gunna look like it used to again, yellow, OG stickers and everything. Nice!


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Magazines/Willsbike.jpg)

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: jon_e on December 20, 2007, 07:39 PM

Guys stop fretting...it's an 89 frame repainted a few times.

Steve Geall of G Bikes fame etc. etc. welded the canti bosses on, as at the time racers were switching over.

The frame number is... 6890873 PSM.

...and I've just added more early images from 90/91 of how it looked.

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: SaMAlex on December 20, 2007, 07:48 PM

Nice pics Jon, its looks great in Yellow with the mk1 Holmes decals  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: harris on December 20, 2007, 07:49 PM

 :) good man

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: jon_e on December 20, 2007, 08:09 PM

Alex do you still have the copy of Invert with the full test? If so can you scan it for me?

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: SaMAlex on December 20, 2007, 08:13 PM

Quote from: jon_e on December 20, 2007, 08:09 PM

Alex do you still have the copy of Invert with the full test? If so can you scan it for me?

Sure do. Its under my desk at work. I will try and do it tomorrow for ya. It will be my last chance till after Xmas cos my scanner it at work too. Maybe Email me after lunch to remind me. I will be out of the office all morning.

I think the dirtbike test issue is the one with Will doing a no hander on the cover, but the wall ride shot was from a different issue. I will check them both out and see what else is in there.

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: jon_e on December 20, 2007, 08:29 PM

Is that the one of him with the berm shot roosting? Pictures by Rick Hall?

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: ron burgundy on December 20, 2007, 08:54 PM

What a fantastic bike, good luck with the rebuild :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: rory on December 20, 2007, 09:05 PM

nice  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: SaMAlex on December 20, 2007, 09:09 PM

Quote from: jon_e on December 20, 2007, 08:29 PM

Is that the one of him with the berm shot roosting? Pictures by Rick Hall?

Thats the one, well done! Its a great 'BMX Action' style picture but you cant see much of the bike.

I think I sent Rick Hall a Holmes frame in 1991. I bought one back from S&M with me and posted it onto Ireland when I got back to the UK. I had no idea who it was going to, I just had a name and address to post it to.

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: SaMAlex on December 20, 2007, 09:13 PM

Quote from: RyanPartridge on December 20, 2007, 06:15 PM

I'm not sure about that Dirtbike. No headtube/toptube gusset, strange headtube,...

There were quite a few different styles of early dirtbike but some of the early ones didnt have a headtube gusset and they had tube braces at the BB AND the seat stay (not plates). This bike does have very large machined rings on the headtube. My old dirtbike frame is very similar to this one but the rings are smaller.

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: jon_e on December 20, 2007, 09:14 PM

If it was green...could have been what Will replaced after he sold me his dirt bike

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2382/2125677076_f476799083_b.jpg)

Will @ Wigan 1992/93 ish

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: teamsano on December 20, 2007, 09:20 PM

are those 'tri-cross' tyres?

good to hear from ya johnny, see you signed up at bmxis too.

will riding was great at that kod at wigan that day....

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: jon_e on December 20, 2007, 09:42 PM

Is that you GoGo?

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: teamsano on December 20, 2007, 11:47 PM

maybe.

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: gossa on December 21, 2007, 12:08 AM

Course it is Jon, who else but go-go!

So as one bmx legend was buried yesterday, another one is reborn eh jon-e?  I warn ya now mate, it's addictive.......

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: SaMAlex on December 21, 2007, 09:16 PM

Quote from: jon_e on December 20, 2007, 09:14 PM

If it was green...could have been what Will replaced after he sold me his dirt bike

I think the bike I bought back was Green but I didnt think it was for Will as I knew who he was.

That pic of Will is rad. Race(ish) bike, riding in a jumping comp on a BMX track, with Pegs and a bash guard. How S&M is that?!

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: harris on December 21, 2007, 09:18 PM

in the original restoration does anyone no what hubs hes running
are they son-lites,as im after some like that.

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: SaMAlex on December 21, 2007, 09:26 PM

I think it says they are sun lites on the comment under a picture of them. It also says that they aint for sale

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: harris on December 21, 2007, 09:37 PM

that will be me not paying attention then alex cheers chap   :)

Title: Re: Early Dirt Bike
Post by: gossa on December 22, 2007, 12:39 AM

Harris, they are Son Lites, Jon-e and I bought the last two sets from a Ducth shop at the BMX WC in Holland mid nineties.  I stupidly sold mine to biaggio a few months back and Jon-e has just realised he has them and what they're worth (damn me and my big mouth)!

However like that ESP stem project, i'm getting some copies done so sit tight......