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Old School BMX 1980 - 1988 => Old School Freestyle (frame stands and kickturns galore!) => Topic started by: Faze 3 on August 14, 2007, 09:20 PM
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Some things are puzzling me ::) I thought I'd ask you guys cos there has to be reason.
1. Why do Hutch trickstar's go for such big money? Compared to Haro's, GT's etc from same era. They are frequently for sale ???
2. Why do so many of them not have the original forks anymore, once again Haro's and Gt's are nearly always f&F :-[
3. Last question....honest.....How did Hutch manage to make such a balls of bringing out an improved model :-X The Mk2 trickstar is down right ugly :idiot2:
Apologise's if you've got one, just my opinion of course.
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I can't really say why for your first 2 questions but your right on number 3. Why the fook would they go backwards in design and ruin any dignity they had in style and quality. Surely on the drawing board it looked shite, didn't anyone stop and think" Hang on a minute lads we've dropped a bollock here......"
I wonder how many Biagio's stuck with....he's got them on ebay week after week....
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Some good points...here's what I think:
1. I think they go for more money because there are fewer about in comparison to GTs and Haro's. And also because they feel very high-end (rightly or wrongly) to their peers. And also they are very beautiful.
2. The early ones were race forks with pegs welded on, so were naturally a little weaker. Most I see seem to have original forks though.
3. What the fook were the design team thinking on the Trickstar II? All I can say is that they must have been developed by a team of mutant inbred deaf dumb and stupid people. It's retarded.
Oh, and here's mine.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/DSC05241.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/DSC05257.jpg)
Ooooo is that a little bit of sex wee?
:daumenhoch:
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reason a lot don`t have forks is they bent easy well mine did bitd ,price wize i think it`s because it`s hutch and that say it all as in they don`t exist so that put the price up ,also loads of haro`s out there ie 85 onwards as shiners still had them for years later . also yeah trickstar 2 was a nightmare but at the time good to ride on tho
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What is the head angle of a trickstar? It looks way steep? I guess even more so cos its got a semi leading axle slot.
Didnt Hutch change hands, and is the trickstar II even made/designed by the same "Hutch" people?
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What is the head angle of a trickstar? It looks way steep? I guess even more so cos its got a semi leading axle slot.
Didnt Hutch change hands, and is the trickstar II even made/designed by the same "Hutch" people?
If it did change hands that kinda makes sense, they gave it over to CW's california design team :D
Don't know figures on head tube angle, but sat next to my master they look very similar if not identical.
That would explain the missing forks then stuntmaster :P You've only to look in RAD muso Hutch section to see how many are missing forks, crazy.
As for you Dave, I might have guess you'd have a corking trickstar just waiting to upset me ;D ;)
If you ever decide to part with it, please let me have first dib dobs, if you have any spare forks ;)
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Hutch were always expensive, even back in '86-'87 complete bikes were running 600+ compared to 300 or so for a GT.
They pioneered the use of high-end metals in their products (titanium/magnesium) when no-one else (in BMX) was doing it.
I do also think most of it is hype, like the Bentley or Rolls Royce of BMX... but they are nice bikes (except the Mk II).
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Isnt stodys red trick star up for grabs. Its in the Trade section right now!
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I was just about to say that!
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=42126.0
;D
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Isnt stodys red trick star up for grabs. Its in the Trade section right now!
yeah, i think he had too much sun at MK !! he's mad selling that, it's a stunner !
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Isnt stodys red trick star up for grabs. Its in the Trade section right now!
yeah, i think he had too much sun at MK !! he's mad selling that, it's a stunner !
Is she calling to you Matt? Ooooooo come stroke my candy... :-*
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Well if Stodgy can flash his red stunner about I'll pop out my purple monster.....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v213/mikamagic1/hts3.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v213/mikamagic1/hts7.jpg)
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Isnt stodys red trick star up for grabs. Its in the Trade section right now!
yeah, i think he had too much sun at MK !! he's mad selling that, it's a stunner !
Is she calling to you Matt? Ooooooo come stroke my candy... :-*
dave ! i really don't want two ! i leave the multi Trickstar fetish to Stuntmaster ! LOL !!!
blimey, what;'s with all the gay banter tonight, stroke your candy, stroke markj's skyway bars !! LOL !!
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And now Mark J's purple monster - god I love it when you get that out.
LOL. All we need now is a pink one and then the gay-dar will hit max!
:LolLolLolLol:
Sweet ride Mark. :smitten:
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dave ! i really don't want two ! i leave the multi Trickstar fetish to Stuntmaster ! LOL !!!
Don't fight it Matt. I'm sure if I ask another 47 times tonight you'll get bored enough just to give in.
8)
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Man if I knew that a few simple Hutch questions was gonna lead to a gay love in ;D :P
So whats the out come ere, hutch trickstars are for rich gay boys!! Thinking back thats what we used to say round our way in 84 ;D
riding our raleigh burners, doing skids and tattoos with bic pens :idiot2:
Dave, I would really like to swap that trickstar off you, but my collection is laughable I'm afraid. I do have a hoffman EP :LolLolLolLol:
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So whats the out come ere, hutch trickstars are for rich gay boys!! Thinking back thats what we used to say round our way in 84 ;D
That just about sums it up. Back in 84 and now. Hutch are as camp as a row of pink tents. Always have been and always will be...remember the pink outfits?!
But the Pink Pound is fooking valuable. Apparently.
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they always seem cheap as chips in the states but big bucks over here, had a performer bitd and soon as i got it the trickstar came out and really was gutted. i have had 4 over the last 4 years and aint got one now, think scooby might have to give me mine back
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You'd still have one now if it wasn't for them pesky kids.
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hutch is dear
hutch can be weak
hutch ugly due to hutch blindness
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I don't think Trickstars go for as much as an 84 Gen 1 Master, or 84 Gen 2 Master, they go for about the same as a 84 Gen 3 Master. 85 Masters are only cheaper because there is loads of them about.
If you take SteveP Trickstar, he is asking £350 with the Bars, which have to be worth £50 easy, so that makes the Frame & Forks about £300, you won't find many 84 Performers or Masters in the same condition for a lot less than that.
I think all the hard to find Frame & Forks are getting good money now.
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if you can find hutch ladder bars for £50 chris i will have a set please
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mmm my favorite topic and good point chris on price`s ,and here my two at mk(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v607/stuntmaster/IMGP0015-2.jpg)
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I don't think Trickstars go for as much as an 84 Gen 1 Master, or 84 Gen 2 Master, they go for about the same as a 84 Gen 3 Master. 85 Masters are only cheaper because there is loads of them about.
If you take SteveP Trickstar, he is asking £350 with the Bars, which have to be worth £50 easy, so that makes the Frame & Forks about £300, you won't find many 84 Performers or Masters in the same condition for a lot less than that.
I think all the hard to find Frame & Forks are getting good money now.
I think you're right Steve on the Jap made trickstars (like steves), but good USA ones and Chrome first gen Ladder bars are fetching a lot more in the UK. I would say around £100 on the bars alone...
Nice rides Stuntmaster. :daumenhoch:
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Dave's right early us made trickstars fetch top money even without forks, although I have to say you see more of them for sale than you do Gen2/3 Masters.
As for all the hutch bits, stem, bars etc. Don't get me started on there prices, If your going to build a hutch trickstar with all the correct bits your going to need deep pockets, I'm sure a proper master (84) would be a more sensible complete build option :P
The hutch cranks go for more than my complete old school collection cost me :D
Ill get off me crizzle mound now dig deep and start building me trickstar, at the end of the day you know your gonna build one, its like some sort jedi mind trick :idiot2:
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if you can find hutch ladder bars for £50 chris i will have a set please
I would have a set too, even though Iv got some Woddy Itson's on my Trickstar.
Like everything, you can always find a bargin here & there ;)
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aAy one got pics of the ugly duckling MK11...
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you can't beat a trickstar can ya ! ;)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g48/noahnhenrysdad/P1010294.jpg)
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you can't beat a trickstar can ya ! ;)
No, you can't...... ;)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v213/mikamagic1/hts1.jpg)
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Is there some kind of problem with trick stars and chains?
The chain has fallen off monkeybiscuits bike and mark j's is missing all together!
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I've been putting my trickstar today, and the chain is way to big, it came straight off a Performer, thats my guess with monkey biscuits. Bloody nice bike there.
Liking all the trickstars posted ere, so does any one on RAD have a MkII ?
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Here is mine then..
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b366/claire169/TA1001.jpg)
& no I don't have a mark 2 Trickstar :yahoo_silent:
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that very nice chris :daumenhoch:
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I've been putting my trickstar today, and the chain is way to big, it came straight off a Performer, thats my guess with monkey biscuits. Bloody nice bike there.
Liking all the trickstars posted ere, so does any one on RAD have a MkII ?
Is the MK2 the one with the silly looking rear end that used to break alot? Sorry if you've got one, I'm sure it looks great :daumenhoch:
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Very diplomatic Marty, it's easy to bullshit behind your keyboard when they can't see your eyes :LolLolLolLol:
And very very nice Chris, it's a winner :daumenhoch:
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Another very tasty trickstar, I think I'll wait to show mine off, its a little.....er......below standard :-[ The bikes on this post have all been top banana 8)
Its a Hutch Fest!!!! makes a change from the Master love in we usually get :2funny:
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I've been putting my trickstar today, and the chain is way to big, it came straight off a Performer, thats my guess with monkey biscuits. Bloody nice bike there.
the chain length is fine, just haven't got round to putting a freewheel on the Z Rims yet !! :crazy2: ;D
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My 2 trickstars they've been on vintage but not posted them here before. enjoy Dan :) :Great_Britain:
(http://www.cooltide.com/bmx/DM_TS/MikeDominguez.jpg)
(http://www.cooltide.com/bmx/TS_2864_640.jpg)
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love the futuristic one there dancti as remember it well on vintage :daumenhoch:
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seen the gold one before too, that ROCKS mate !!
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thought the black one looked the mutts nuts, but the gold plate just about says it all.
As mentioned earlier in this topic as camp as a camp thing :) But Fooking cool at the same time.
I'm definitely keeping my trickstar under wraps now. :-X
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i used to have a chrome trickstar with everything chrome...even the nuts and bolts...used to make a weekly trip to mason's to spend my hard earned cash on chrome plating
still the best looking bike...even if it has wafer tubing like a tin can
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talking of cheap Hutch bits, has anyone spotted the Hutch tires on ebay.com. Only $425 :LolLolLolLol: Bargain :laugh:
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I'm gonna upset a few people hear I can feel it ::)
I hate Hutch Tricks Stars with a passion, I think they were/are the most over rated bikes built as was most of their parts. Stupidly over priced with no justification for the huge price tag at all. I've seen loads break, bend etc. so I'm obviously missing something.
Please don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work that's gone into the ones on this post and they do look the nuts but I just don't get the high value thing. If they where completely indestructible then maybe I could see it.
As for the Trick Star II, don't even get me started!
Really sorry if offended anyone but it's just my opinion guys.
Daz.
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just like marmite
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I like Trick Stars i think the frame design is lovely. :smitten:
Check out this Pit Star!.......
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v432/Lazarou63/pitstar.jpg)
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soooo cute...but that looks like mini flite cranks instead of mini aerospeeds...who owns that bike?
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I'm gonna upset a few people hear I can feel it ::)
I hate Hutch Tricks Stars with a passion, I think they were/are the most over rated bikes built as was most of their parts. Stupidly over priced with no justification for the huge price tag at all. I've seen loads break, bend etc. so I'm obviously missing something.
Please don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work that's gone into the ones on this post and they do look the nuts but I just don't get the high value thing. If they where completely indestructible then maybe I could see it.
As for the Trick Star II, don't even get me started!
Really sorry if offended anyone but it's just my opinion guys.
Daz.
you ever riding one bitd as they were the best bike in the air as so much more easier to play with than a master or sport as they were very loose ie wild i say
yes they broke but then so did haro`s as they never understood that you need the plate underneath the seat tube . understand if you don`t like them as i don`t like quad`s much but then can`t say to much as never rode one
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I have rode one yes mate, one of my mate bitd had one and I just couldn't get on with. However, I've never felt more comfortable on a ramp or in a bowl than on my early Sport (84) which I had. I loved my Performer too but my Sport was by far the best bike I had....horses for course as they say!
Daz. :daumenhoch:
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What is the head angle of a trickstar? It looks way steep? I guess even more so cos its got a semi leading axle slot.
74 1/2,same as the Judge.