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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: www.vert-ego.com on June 29, 2007, 05:56 PM
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I sold some Blue z wheels to a guy in Canada. He had his credit card company issue a chargeback so I lost the money he paid for them. He taunted me and said I was welcome to be public about his deviousness and being a downright robber. His words were I had more to lose than him being a single individual that no one knows. We don't speak in public about much these days so I left it with good ol dependable paypal to resolve for me.
Been told today that those very wheels were actually sold on ebay in mid may this year ..I wasn't aware of that.
What I am asking is does any one out there have this saved still in their ebay items watched page? I would appreciate tremendously any assistance any one can give me. showing this to paypal 'should' help me win my case against the robbing bastard..
or if any one remembers the ebay sellers name or winning buyers ebay name, I may be able to trace it ( possibly ) from that .
Sincere Thanks in advance
Biagio
I'll take this opportunity to thank all our great customers....
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oh well dude! you win some you lose some!
i'm sure you can cover it with the prices you charge for stuff anyway :daumenhoch:
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yawn yawn.....
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Mr Ying please meet Mr Yang
:) DINGO :)
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i think those replies are a bit harsh.
no matter who you are or what you do, no-one should get ripped.
i have bought a few items from this fella and even though thay were a bit dearer than the norm, piece of mind in knowing i would receive them was there. if his prices are heavy then YOU choose to buy or not. but then, he's cheaper than Alan's, go figure :idiot2:
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oh well dude! you win some you lose some!
i'm sure you can cover it with the prices you charge for stuff anyway :daumenhoch:
Biagio came on here and politely and graciously asked for some help like we all do on here from time to time. Those sort of comments were a bit uncalled for and always the beginings of a bad thread....
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Right thats it, I am deleting my account now. I want to be the first :4_17_5:
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Mr Ying please meet Mr Yang
:) DINGO :)
do you want me to elaborate??? I have no qualms justifying my comment and B knows my quote off by heart
:) DINGO :)
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Many moons ago Biagio told me (and I quote) " I am gonna buy up all the stuff I can and hold UK Old school to ransom" said to me in a Macdonlds carpark in West Bridgeford , Nottingham at around the turn of the Millenium
Now tell me I am "harsh"
My YING and Yang comment still stands
:) DINGO :)
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I don't think it would still be there after 3 months mate. Ebay remove items after 2months i think although i may be wrong :-\
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about 6 years ago i sold a haro master to this cat, it was through an ad in ride, the dude convinces me to drive all the way down to northampton to meet him with it,
he swears blind he wont waste my time, i bribed my gf at the time to drive me down by promising to split the £150 with her,
we gets there and sure enough this kipper starts to barter! the cheeky fooker!
i wont put what i said to him on here but needless to say he coughed up the dollars and took off like a rocket!
so mr blaggo,
heres the worlds smallest violin playing just for you :daumenhoch:
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I sold some Blue z wheels to a guy in Canada. He had his credit card company issue a chargeback so I lost the money he paid for them. He taunted me and said I was welcome to be public about his deviousness and being a downright robber. His words were I had more to lose than him being a single individual that no one knows. We don't speak in public about much these days so I left it with good ol dependable paypal to resolve for me.
Been told today that those very wheels were actually sold on ebay in mid may this year ..I wasn't aware of that.
What I am asking is does any one out there have this saved still in their ebay items watched page? I would appreciate tremendously any assistance any one can give me. showing this to paypal 'should' help me win my case against the robbing bastard..
or if any one remembers the ebay sellers name or winning buyers ebay name, I may be able to trace it ( possibly ) from that .
Sincere Thanks in advance
Biagio
I'll take this opportunity to thank all our great customers....
So what reason did he give to his credit card company why he should get his money back :-\
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Right thats it, I am deleting my account now. I want to be the first :4_17_5:
Right, I've made my point, I'm back.
So, what have I missed :LolLolLolLol:
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Many moons ago Biagio told me (and I quote) " I am gonna buy up all the stuff I can and hold UK Old school to ransom" said to me in a Macdonlds carpark in West Bridgeford , Nottingham at around the turn of the Millenium
Now tell me I am "harsh"
My YING and Yang comment still stands
:) DINGO :)
fair enough. i didn't realise it was a personal thing between the two of you.
i still stand behind my reply as a customer.
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you missed nowt :LolLolLolLol:
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i've got a couple of genuine questions for the blagster while he's around,
those haro master stickers you were selling recently, were they real? or reproductions?
mind you it doesnt matter because an honest,fair seller like blaggo would have gotten HARO's permission to re- pop them anyway! :daumenhoch:
lastly blags,
how come with all the money you've made out of old school bmxers you've never made a donation to the site? or sponsored a meeting?
i'd have thought it "good advertising" to at least pretend to support the folk that youre ripping off! :daumenhoch:
tell me you didnt just go out an buy a nasty "poor mans" porsche with all the dosh you made!! :LolLolLolLol:
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lets be carefull now chaps and let bygones be bygones.
If you have a problem, try to sort it out by PM.
Biaggio asked for a bit of help, if you can help and have the inclination to help, please do.
For the record joe, Biaggio has donated stuff to the site, and came with a big box of stuff for prizes at for the show and shine at epic last year.
Not that that makes his prices any cheaper though.... :angel:
having said that he was the only person i could find that still had a red/black haro plate which i needed for my last build.....so im glad he charged more, or else theyd have all gone by now.
supply and demand.....look at the prices of TA's as compared to streetbeats......both very similar frames, same maker etc, one you can get for 25 quid, the other 250.....
So, in conclusion.....we can turn this thread into another vertego basher if we like, there will always be people who will like him, as there will be people who wont....the thread has been done about 20 times now......Mind you I'm sure he wont mind as no publicity is bad publicity... ;D
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you gotta feel for B, evey time he comes on here WHACK, sorry to hear about the wheels mate its a shitter for sure when that happens, and guys he runs a BUSINESS the point of that is profit to put food on the table, if you dont like the prices then DONT pay them, you always have a choice!!!!
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Hold on.
Reality check please........
Just so as I'm understanding this (I'm a bit thick thar knows.....)
The man said he was going to buy everything up and hold the world to ransom. OK, so don't buy from him.
The man haggled over a price, but buckled in the end and paid up. So, lesson learned. Never deal with him again.
Thats it isn't it? I don't mean to sound like a hardass about this, but we all have shitty stories to tell from the BMX 'community'. Possibly me more than most. But surely that doesn't mean we should rejoice in this blokes troubles does it?
How about we try and help him with his problem if we can and save the bashing for the thread he writes entitled 'you're all mugs and I take great pleasure in pulling your trousers down with every sale I make' ;)
For the record, I think Biaggio has sponsored some stuff, and given generously to the prize funds of a couple of doos. I think.
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Great here we go again :(
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Sorry Bill :-[
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Rob that wasn`t about your reply, it was about the thread as a whole :police:
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I've bought from B loadsa times, He's not the cheapest but have found his goods and service impeccible !!
You don't like the prices, you don't pay! That's why I got a vectra and not a ferrari :)
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i have to side with biagio i've rang him for advise or to pick his bmx brains while buying nothing, he has never once complained,refused or been anything but friendly and helpful. As for prices if no-one paid his prices he would have to lower them or get stuck with them, the fact is people pay his prices so there must be a demand.
prices are also goverened be the people he buys off surely if you have something to sell he has to pay your price and after post paypal tax(over heads) he has to make a profit.
as for buying my experience is when you put a price on something everyone(and no-one is excluded from this) will TRY and get it for less even if in the end they pay full asking price.
so come on guy's life's too short, no-one died
crusty
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iv bought of biagio many many times and his service has always been spot on . i thought this old school game was about the love for building old school bikes . if he didnt put slightly higher prices then everything would have vanished to all the horders attics many many years ago , which in turn would have made the prices rocket to alot higher than they are now . correct or not . hope you get your problem solved mate , i wanted them wheels too. :daumenhoch:
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known b quite a few years now and he's been ok with me and we've done a few deals along the way too.as for buying up all the oldschool,he took the risk put his money down and took the chance.a shrewd niche business move in my book and its payed off so far.good luck to him and the sour deal... :daumenhoch: its another wet weekend so this thread could become a long one ::)
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Have to say B has always been as kool as christmas with me ! I phone him and have never has any probs. If its a lash i tell him and he says dont buy it then.
I find some of the prices on here more off a piss take "£300 for some pads" Hope you get it sorted B if ya reading this ya lashing c**t :LolLolLolLol:
Paul :Great_Britain:
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known joe for a while now ..had many a good deal off him ....hope you get it sorted m8 ...no fooker likes getting ripped ..scum ....
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darkersomeday
there are 2 sides to every story...
I remember it to this day as it provided me with a valuable lesson in b*llsh*t. You said yeah it has a couple chips where stuff has been leant against it in the shed. What this means peeps is every stretch of tube had no fewer than at least 10 chips down to the metal/primer! the f/f had chips where u couldn't even figure how they could get there under normal use. So not quite what u said it was so in paying the agreed price despite condition being way worse than described I think I was more than fair to you as many people from up north would have been more blunt!. Funny how the memory plays tricks with some peeps eh..no hard feelings from me
dingo you continued to speak to me long after that meeting...I prefer the approach dirt biker has..u say what you think, be it diplomatically or bluntly..u say it rather than harbour it
Its apparent you are devoid of any sense of humour too. No hard feelings
and again thanks to all the cool guys out there...
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"Its apparent you are devoid of any sense of humour too"
explain that comment please, I await your witty, nay hilariously funny reply :LolLolLolLol:
:) DINGO :)
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gettin ripped sucks big style :'( if its to pricey dont buy it !!!!! things are only worth what people will pay
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good use of the word "nay"....lol
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good use of the word "nay"....lol
Hooray!!! I guess I have a sense of humour after all :LolLolLolLol:
wish I had use eu contrare in there too now He he
:) DINGO :)
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just kick kook out of each other next time you meet ;)
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so come on guy's life's too short, no-one died
crusty
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i know i am new but here goes!! :angrysoapbox:
i remember the blue z-rims on ebay but i can't remember the seller - he pointed out that thy were not nos and was selling them on! if these were the ones b is on about then i'm sure from personal dealings with him he would have offered a refund! every one tries to make a living - if i said to my wife i want to put 1000's of pounds into buying nos stuff i think she would divorce me!! we all do a little wealing and dealing to offset the price of the bmx's we build and where is the wrong in that. if you want somthing you shop around! if it's in short supply you pay a high price!! the law of nature! gold, diamonds, cannabis, mx1000000's. etc, etc. :rant:
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FFS.
why is it that when people sell stuff on here for the same price as B but including postage, that no one thinks to ask' but you don't pay vat or income tax on that' even though they have had that item for friggin years and paid bog all for it. Measuring with 2 measures me thinks. If you found a VDC gorilla in mint condition with all the trimmigs tomorrow at a car boot, would you sell it on at 35 quid and make a tenner, or would you be rubbing your hands. Bullshitters need not reply.
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Once I find a Holeshot RF1 I'm going to swap it for Dordy's house....
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oh yoy of yoys
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most of the guys who have a pop at b have bought from him anyway so whats the problem ? if they are unhappy with the situation maybe they should have set up a nos parts business themselves, but as i've said before there are the few that do it and those that talk about it...
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FFS.
why is it that when people sell stuff on here for the same price as B but including postage, that no one thinks to ask' but you don't pay vat or income tax on that' even though they have had that item for friggin years and paid bog all for it. Measuring with 2 measures me thinks. If you found a VDC gorilla in mint condition with all the trimmigs tomorrow at a car boot, would you sell it on at 35 quid and make a tenner, or would you be rubbing your hands. Bullshitters need not reply.
so true !! :)
...i find VDC Gorilla's at carboot sales all the time btw ! LOL !!
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FFS.
why is it that when people sell stuff on here for the same price as B but including postage, that no one thinks to ask' but you don't pay vat or income tax on that' even though they have had that item for friggin years and paid bog all for it. Measuring with 2 measures me thinks. If you found a VDC gorilla in mint condition with all the trimmigs tomorrow at a car boot, would you sell it on at 35 quid and make a tenner, or would you be rubbing your hands. Bullshitters need not reply.
this very true , i picked up a silverstreak at a booty for £10 , and sold it for £220 , with extras and i spent alot of time cleaning it up , but i was amazed how many people said would i sell it for £10 :uglystupid2: i was lucky to pick it up so cheap , and i made a profit, and bought another bike i was after, so everyone happy , ive neve dealt with biagio , but heard not so great things about him , but i must admit ,i wish i bought loads of OS bits years ago, i would be worth a mint now, :-\
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I've only just read this thread because up until now I couldn't be bothered.
What I cannot understand is that people go on about Biagio's prices but in the next breath advise people to buy from Alans. Alans are usually more expensive than Vert-ego so what is the deal?
I have bought from B many times and have always been 100% happy with what I paid, if I thought a product was too expensive then I wouldn't buy it..... Simple as that!
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I've bought from Biaggio and was very happy :)
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What Stidds said, Biagio does get some bad press the world over, but all my dealings have been spot on.
I have just bought some s/f suntour sealed hubs in black, I couldn't find these anywhere else and I figured £40 was not too bad, I have paid a lot more for hubs in the past!
People need to appreciate that not everyone will deal with him for their own reasons, just make your own mind up - there are enough happy people out there!
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i'm with that,......................
I always consider my options before going to one of the OS BMX 'Shops', you pays ya money ya makes ya choice....
All the stuff I have bought from Biagio has been top notch, and always arrived within a day or 2. Also had a lot of free advise from him, so can't knock that.
Suppose it's easy to knock people for trying to make a buck or 2 out of this hobby, but maybe some of wish we'd had the hindsight to buy a load of stock up 5 or 6 years ago, I wish i had......we've all got to pay our mortgages !
Nowadays I import most of my stuff from the US, dude to the fantastic $/£ rate !
:)
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i got really pissed off with B when i first got back into this about 3 years ago, bidding against me on something i really needed, he won, fair enough, but then he relisted it straight away at a higher price, i would have bought to keep as i really wanted it and that pissed me right off and i used to be dead for any rockchick knockin threads (had some beauty pm battles with him :LolLolLolLol:) but its all water under the bridge, he had the inclanation, the determination and he put in the effort to place himself in the position he is in now and hats off to him, i would have done the same if i could have been arsed and thought of it earlier but i didnt and he did. i can not see the problem, you want something right now its there but you pay for that, i rarely do nos stuff as i like raggying my bikes so they dont stay nos for long anyway, plus i'll bide my time usually coz i like a bargain, all his bits are available else where and he doesnt force his stash on anyone, i have heard a few stories but how many deals has he done, im sure the ratios will speak for themselves.
the choice is yours
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that just made me think,..............
when i bought my Hutch Trickstar Frame (1st ever buy on ebay), I outbid a certain 'rockchick' by a quid to win it - last second ! 8) :LolLolLolLol:
the novice (back then) beat the Pro ! ;)
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strangely enough, it was a trickstar i was bidding on also, but he definately won that one