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Title: round peg square hole
Post by: theRuler on November 01, 2005, 08:08 PM
any way of fitting 1 1/8th forks to an oldschool frame?
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: darkslider on November 01, 2005, 09:14 PM
If its a moto-one your local car recycler will help just squeeze till its a cuboid.(http://x11.putfile.com/10/30314491598.gif) (http://www.putfile.com)
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: theRuler on November 01, 2005, 09:14 PM
i will work out a way.
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: billstup on November 01, 2005, 11:26 PM
Yes you can, don`t know how its done though  :(
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: CD17 on November 01, 2005, 11:30 PM
Someone done it on here, on the old site, to a Haro Master I think & I can't remember who it was, but he got the headtube machined out just enough to fit the 1" 1/8 headset in.
Then fitted new skool forks.
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: aditup2004 on November 01, 2005, 11:39 PM
I may be wrong, but I am almost sure you can get a headset, which is sort of inverted; ie, the cups are the opposite way round (cones in the frame, cups on the forks) which does the job. I think I may have one, but NOT complete. I will look 2morro. Ad
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: steve on November 02, 2005, 12:21 AM
get an alloy newschoo heaset
-and file the cups
???????????/

-for sale new school, sky orbit fsa headset
-was from a new unridden bike
-also for sale redline newschool race forks
-new in paper
- swap for mini newschool headset

-will post
-pics?
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 02, 2005, 01:03 AM
It's no problem at all, as long as the parts are still available.....

You can buy converter cups to fit either fork into either frame.  1 1/8th forks into a 1" frame was quite a common job as people wanted the strength and clamp on stem option before having to upgrade their frame.

A ring around should see you right,  try Billys up in Cambridge - I think their distributor used to make their own converter cups.

Hope that helps  ;) :)

Don't forget to buy suitable bearings as well......
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: showtime on November 02, 2005, 07:14 AM
or you need to find some mid school 1 inch threaded forks with a clamp on stem!
like superforks or kingpins ;)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b362/showtime777/pins001.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b362/showtime777/pins002.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b362/showtime777/pins003.jpg)
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: lazychubs on November 02, 2005, 08:22 AM
i fink it was gee who did it
i did it the other way put 1inch on 1/18th  frame
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: theRuler on November 02, 2005, 11:14 AM
It's no problem at all, as long as the parts are still available.....

You can buy converter cups to fit either fork into either frame.  1 1/8th forks into a 1" frame was quite a common job as people wanted the strength and clamp on stem option before having to upgrade their frame.

A ring around should see you right,  try Billys up in Cambridge - I think their distributor used to make their own converter cups.

Hope that helps  ;) :)

Don't forget to buy suitable bearings as well......

sounds like the way to go.

i will try and find the cups!! or machine some existing ones

i want to run some beefy haro forks with ad lugs in my old streetbeat frame
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: oberonspacefruit on November 02, 2005, 12:08 PM
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-92089.html


doesnt help much, but quite funny..
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: darkslider on November 02, 2005, 02:06 PM
Why not go rigid  ;D In a beavis and butthead type of snigger. That was cool!
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: theRuler on November 02, 2005, 02:07 PM
i'm a try the loose balls idea
i was thinking of that last night

i think it will work
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: darkslider on November 02, 2005, 02:09 PM
You wanna tighten your balls not losen them matey.
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: oberonspacefruit on November 02, 2005, 02:24 PM
you reckon the tube will fit through the cups?
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: theRuler on November 02, 2005, 02:38 PM
fnarr

yes it does fit through the cups
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: oberonspacefruit on November 02, 2005, 02:43 PM
you tried it? snug?
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: theRuler on November 02, 2005, 02:57 PM
just tried it.

the shaft moved freely within the hole
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: oberonspacefruit on November 02, 2005, 03:05 PM
hmm. you reckon it might work then with loose ball......?  would have to mess with a few headsets to get the right combo, you would need 1 1/8" unthreaded headset.
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: theRuler on November 02, 2005, 03:13 PM
a one inch one wont go the shaft

i will need to use, i reckon

1 1/8th parts, 1" cups, 2 sets of bearings.
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: oberonspacefruit on November 02, 2005, 03:14 PM
d'oh!!!  wat am i thinking. its too much for my poor brain. draw me a pic when youve done all the hard work.
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: oberonspacefruit on November 02, 2005, 03:15 PM
anyway i sed 1 1/8
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: theRuler on November 02, 2005, 03:21 PM
would have to mess with a few headsets to get the right combo, you would need a 4" unthreaded headset, and a dooslem pin

i'm not sure i would, you know.
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: oberonspacefruit on November 02, 2005, 03:25 PM
i beg to differ. dooslem pins have got me out of a tight spot on more than one occasion
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: oberonspacefruit on November 02, 2005, 03:26 PM
i still think it will be tricky tho.cup-bearins-bearin ring-platic thing-squasher-next bit will be too big wont it?
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: theRuler on November 02, 2005, 03:32 PM
well you know what they say - if it aint tight it isnt right!
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: lazychubs on November 02, 2005, 03:53 PM
they do fit in the cups sort off lol
as ive tried it aswell worse case senario
 is you could get slightly bigger bearings to space it out
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: Sanmarcopizza on November 02, 2005, 05:30 PM
I checked for this on another site and came across the following extracts from various threads that might be helpful...

"get a typical tange or tioga oldschool headset (if you don't already have that) and get a newschool "Tank" headset.

use the oldschool cups and use everything else from the Tank."

"I did this a few years ago when the ahead setup first came out. I used the cheap Ahead headset with the black steel cups. The only thing you will need to use differently with a 1 inch headtube frame is a set of 1 inch bearing cups. You should be able to use almost any headset that is offered in both 1 inch and 1 1/8. "

"yes, but make sure you get the right "A-headset". not all makes and models will work for this modification. i did it once- i think i used dia-comp tank guts with old tange 1" cups. "
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: theRuler on November 02, 2005, 05:49 PM
nice one san!

its fat forks time

(guy's chunky brother)
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: showtime on November 02, 2005, 07:23 PM
sounds like a plan :)

what forks are you going for because if you need anything more heavy duty than the King Pins i showed then you are planning on going VERY BIG  :o
Title: Re: round peg square hole
Post by: theRuler on November 03, 2005, 08:28 AM
well i bought a set of haro forks. they have the all important ad mounts.
in the description it said 1" steerer tube.

turns out my inch and their inch aint the same inch.

but there are nice forks, and i need a front brake (everyone needs a front brake) so i will "run what i brung"
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