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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: harris on March 11, 2007, 06:51 PM
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standard sta 1" threaded 1994 10mm front and rear
stripped a few rides down today so added a few bits.this is my ride until my new school is built
just needs a good stem n different gyro .not era correct but feels great.
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/07006.jpg)
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/07013.jpg)
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/07014.jpg)
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/07018.jpg)
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Bling bling Dan - nice one mate! :daumenhoch:
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Why do you need a 'new school' bike? The STA is one of the finest frames ever made! Everything you need from a bike you can get from the STA.
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itll do for now
i need some original pics soon ,so i can give it a proper original setup. anyone got any pics please.
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Why do you need a 'new school' bike? The STA is one of the finest frames ever made! Everything you need from a bike you can get from the STA.
as i have never ridden it as a rider ,i didnt rearly look at it until now believe it or not
but you might have just put a fly in the ointment on my new build.so this frame set might be what im after but didnt no it.
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Well it depends on what kind of riding you want to do, i rode an STA daily for 8 years and it was good for everything but especially good for trails and general jumping, it was good for mini ramps, brilliant for street and a good all-round rider, the only place i struggled with it was vert but Jamie Bestwick rode it and got 8ft out of it at Storm so i guess i just suck at vert! I even found it fantastic when i rode it at BMX tracks Derby, MK etc, Honestly it is a fantastic frame! I ran it with one brake and (most of the time) no pegs, Slam bars, profiles, Super Pros (later on i had Profile hubs) pretty much just a regular set up, as it's 1 inch though i'd look for a 1 inch clamp on system (i used a King until i went 1-1/8) S&M made a 1 inch system too, or you could go for a 1-1/8 frame, but you can't go far wrong with an STA. (It's better than all these Hoffmans that seem to be all the rage! :10_2_12:) But seriously, it is!
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:daumenhoch: the build is on then.
i must say i am stuck on the stem thats why a junker is on it until someone finds me a good one.
i have alot of standard frames but this seems a good length.
i will ride it as a general mini ramp setup as i rode at parks like leigh on sea
got to get fit first .cheers dan.
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standards rule :daumenhoch:
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I really liked the STA when it was first out. I wasnt that keen on the double top tubes of the first standards so the STA was great. I just still cant get on with the way the dropouts hang so far below the rear wheel slot. It makes the frame look like its drooping back, and like its got a really high BB. And it really gets in the way for grinds, esp on street (not a problem I guess if your not using pegs).
It is a shame its 1" cos EVERY shafted stem/fork will bend (unless you use a wedge jackson ... I wonder who thought of that? ha ha). 1" clamp on might be a way round it but they were usually quite heavy.
Nice bike tho, real clean looking.
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thats very lovely,
i really like it, i loved my old standard sta, its still about the most natural feeling bike i've ever owned,
i've got an old g-sport "1 clamp on stem here if its any good to you?
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Alex, I didn't know the Wedgie Jackson was your idea! It doesn't surprise me either!
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.....and yes, my King fork/stem combo weighed a ton!
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wouldnt mind a look at the stem
as all of mine are poo that are 1" for this era bike
i have an early lengthy to but doesnt feel like this frame.
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Alex, I didn't know the Wedgie Jackson was your idea! It doesn't surprise me either!
Yes, I think S&M forgot it was my idea quite quickly too! ha ha. It worked great but was a little too late and A-head blew it away. Ive still got the first one I made with a tapered hole for the cable that got bigger at the bottom. I was a bit disappointed when the S&M ones didnt have a cable hole in them at all, but it was cool that they were aluminium.
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does anyone no if these are the correct decals for my frame
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/standard.jpg)
these are ones that mark p has i believe
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ditch the standard mate and use one of your big daddys as the only rider you need :4_17_5: :4_17_5: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
only joking bud looks pretty fine to me :daumenhoch:(use t and i'll take your hoffmans from you :2funny:)
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here it is,
the forks are what it came on , "1 threaded early dragonfly's,
of a survivor i picked up for the g-sport wheels,
its a g-sport nimrod 8 bolt i remember right,
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/nimrod001.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/nimrod002.jpg)
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nice stem havent seen one of them in a while .
if you decide to part company with it let me no :daumenhoch:
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That's a nice combo! Dan that's the beauty of 'mid-school' you don't need to worry about era-correct stickers! You can use any ones you like, Standard have re-designed them loads of times over the years and while the 'mark 1' stickers (on the left) are the originals (and my personal favourites) the other ones are nice as well and will suit the blue frame. Just go for the ones you prefer!
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/nimrod.jpg)
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Cool forks. 990 mounts, good peg mounts, everything you could want! Nice. Could only be improved with a 1" redneck, ha ha.
Seriously, as the forks are 1" its easy to make a shim so you can use any 1 1/8 clamp on stem with them.
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nice stem havent seen one of them in a while .
if you decide to part company with it let me no :daumenhoch:
you're welcome to them both dude, 've no plans to use them and never really hord stuff, pm me,
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great add proper find.
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great add proper find.
too right. There arent many 1" clamp on forks about, and most of them are hoffman super forks. If you did use the shim trick there are a few stems that would "look" right. Maybe an early standard clamp on stem (one of the first 1 1/8 BMX stems), or maybe use an early square edged redneck. Here's quite an early one:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/S-M-Redneck-BMX-Stem-Red_W0QQitemZ170089745453QQihZ007QQcategoryZ56194QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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alex while you are around ,question for you
im thinking of getting an s&m to stick with
my wanted bikes from back then which one thou.
i do have a set of 1" clamp hoffman super forks but no stem as the hole is small.
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these
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/armmmmmmmmms006.jpg)
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/armmmmmmmmms007-1.jpg)
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/armmmmmmmmms008-1.jpg)
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alex while you are around ,question for you
im thinking of getting an s&m to stick with
my wanted bikes from back then which one thou.
Good man, good to hear! I guess it depends what one you wanted back then. Its gotta be a Holmes or dirtbike really. Are you talking new bike or mid?
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only mid most of my riding during the 90s was infact a gt world tour
with top end 90s parts till it cracked at the head tube.i always wanted this
and that but never rearly got what i wanted.for my workshop im putting in it
the rides that where more sought after than the rest.
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Mid S&M has got to me a Dirtbike or Holmes. 1" Im guessing, so pitch forks and redneck, slam bars. Oh, Im loving it already! ha ha.
Let me know what way your thoughts go, I might well have something you want.
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come on dan , join the s&m club.
:daumenhoch:
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Alex, what did you think of the Dirtbike platform model? I kinda liked it!
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sounds kinky ;)
will do alex the cogs are turning.
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Alex, what did you think of the Dirtbike platform model? I kinda liked it!
I have been thinking about that platformed dirtbike quite a bit. does it count as a model in its own right, and if so, have I got to try and find one? ha ha.
It was OK, I guess, if you wanted a platform. Seems strange now to use a dirt, ramp or street frame for flatland cos flatland bikes have gone their own way now. And you dont really see platforms anywhere else now.
Anyway, it was a great frame cos it lead to a Perry Mervar section on an S&M video. How strange/funny was that?
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I always thought it was geared more towards mini, but it was rare even back then! I wonder how many were made? It's a bit of an S&M holy grail i think!
It was just like the Homeless Soul Bro so i suppose it was more of a flat bike, did they shorten the front end?
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Yea, I think your right. Mini did have loads frame standing stuff in it. I think the frame size and angles were the same as a dirtbike, as was the HAF, although the dirtbike kinda streched over the years.
I think the first Homeless frames were S&M frames cos they were made at the same place. It was right at the Homeless time that the dirtbikes came out with the platform. Maybe the weld shop got the orderes mixed up! I could tell you how many were made, not many Id say.
Do you remember the Homeless/S&M/everyone "Jimmy Levan" adds that ran in US ride? Ive got one scanned in, it would be great to see the whole run, back to back.
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i'll have a butchers to see if i can find any,
didnt the homeless bike factory get burned down by a homeless person?
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didnt the homeless bike factory get burned down by a homeless person?
Yes it did, but that was a later on, when they were a little bit diferent from S&Ms. I think Chris Job knows more about that than me.
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I went to the house where i used to live today and got a bunch of mags from the loft, I found loads of 80's mags and loads of 90's mags all of the early US Rides, Digs, Freedom, GO!, Plus! etc. even all 6 issues of the ill-fated Tread mag by Chris Hallman (anyone remember?) i'll go through them but unfortunately i don't have a scanner. :(
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find! :daumenhoch:
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is that chris job of hear
he popped round mine today ,very nice chap and im glad he new a fair bit about 90s rides
aint many of us lot about so its good to chin wag .
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is that chris job of hear
he popped round mine today ,very nice chap and im glad he new a fair bit about 90s rides
aint many of us lot about so its good to chin wag .
Thats the one, Chris knows more than most about the early years of Standard, and 90s BMX generaly. A wealth of knowlage for sure.
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yes he sure does, a good man
and i learnt a few things about the early standards .
not alot of places to find that kinda stuff as you no.
tis all good.
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i love my standard
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v638/motomagII/standardbot004.jpg)
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ey up kids me ears are burning.. nice to meet you on sunday dan.. cool collection! i'm going to have to work on the "number 1" hush hush.. wink wink.. or at least get a photo...
i think the dirtbike platforms came out a little bit after the soulbros, and the dimensions were way different, soulbros were tiny and chopper headangles.. i hated mine so much after a bit (well my knees did on the bars) that i went and bought a GT s-bend. gadzooks, chris hardy wasn't happy about that!!
and yes, standards rule! i know what alex means about the early ones looking funny with the height of the bb compared to the dropouts, but they rode so good!
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Ah, Chris, there you are. At last, some facts injected into our ramblings. One fact I can tell you about the Platformed Dirtbike: In the S&M add at the time had something about getting what you want. 990s if you want them (optional extra). It said that "when Ruben wanted a platform on a dirtbike, he got one". The Ruben in that add was just a kid who asked S&M to put a platform on a dirtbike. It wasnt Ruben Castillo, the part owner of Homeless.
"Number 1"? If that is what I think it is ... I was only talking to someone about it at the weekend...
motomagII, your yellow sta looks much nicer, with the chainstay inline with the dropout slot (sorry Dan). I think I would have cut off everything below and behind the peg, but at least you can on that one.
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lol no worries alex i sold him the yellow one :LolLolLolLol:
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and im very pleased with it too mr harris .very nice frame tad heavy but ya aint gonna break it :LolLolLolLol:
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ye mate bare with it,the othes will fail and yours will keep going.
yours as pretty much the same as this.standard never stand still in there rnd striving for the best.
http://http://www.ridebmxmag.co.uk/bikes/standardsta-r500.html