RADBMX.CO.UK
Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: RATTY on November 16, 2006, 10:21 AM
-
Can anyone help. I have got a nice PL20 redline. I am toying with the idea of a stu replica!
From some of the pics of his bike he seems to be running a "rat trap" pedal, any ideas what make they were? Also does anyone know what brakes he ran with, being suntour sponsered I would assume that Dia Comps were not on the agenda.
I am also looking for a CARSLILE agressor front tyre, worn is fine.
Also if anyone does have a parts rundown I would be very gratefull. Thanks Tony
-
got any pics of said pedals, Ton'?
-
Tony !!
Send Stu a PM ! He's a member on RAD ! 8)
I also have his email addy if ya want it ;)
Matt
-
Will post pics that ive found in a bit.
Do you think stu would mind me mailing him, I thought about it, but what with the recovery from the big "C" I was a bit hesitant!!!
-
heres a couple of pics from the redline history page
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i236/citypets/1981-Stuturnshot.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i236/citypets/1981-StuThomsen.jpg)
-
another pic, shows the pedals a bit clearer
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i236/citypets/1982-NoraCupRedline.jpg)
-
Tony, I have got a load of Redline pix, courtesy of Brenn. I can email them to you tonight.
PM me your email addy and I will get them over to you.
Those rat trap pedals can be bought from most online bmx shops, but doubt you will find them in black.
-
http://home.comcast.net/~rinisbikeshop/pedals.htm
theres some gold ones at the bottom of the page tony that look to have the same gap in the middle of the pedal on that link.
could always spray em up.
have a look.
-
Cheers Jim, pm on its way, Thanks Macmark who has sent a stash of pics through. I just got some bits off ginnys, wish I saw them before, cheers Dave
-
Will post pics that ive found in a bit.
Do you think stu would mind me mailing him, I thought about it, but what with the recovery from the big "C" I was a bit hesitant!!!
he seems pretty cool, go for it...!
He's in recovery right now, so I reckon he'd help out !
-
Here is a picture of the ultimate Stu replica, this is owned by Bob Bohlmann on vintagebmx.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/redline.jpg)
-
Here is a picture of the ultimate Stu replica, this is owned by Bob Bohlmann on vintagebmx.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/redline.jpg)
Very nice , slightly later frame also with the chainstay brace :daumenhoch:
7B front 7C rear .
-
If you are being picky Matt, the decals are wrong too arent they?
No white edging.
Tony you can beat this "ultimate" build then!
:Great_Britain:
-
If you are being picky Matt, the decals are wrong too arent they?
No white edging.
Tony you can beat this "ultimate" build then!
:Great_Britain:
Unsure about the edging on the decals but the pads & decals could be different era to the frame date ?.
-
I thought (I may be wrong) that the decals changed to the black and red ones (as in my avatar) in 1985. These frames were built 83-84. Mine is an 84 and it has the brace.
As I say I could well be wrong, im not a Redline expert. I just luuuuurrvvve 'em. :smitten:
-
Wow, That is nice, my new one is without the brace on the rear stays, its got its original stickers down to the bike shop sticker!!!
The stickers on his one are later, but hey Stu rode them for a long time to things were gonna change!!!. I want to base my replica on the one stu brought to Earls court in 1981, the one Keith Wilson went home with :'( :'( :smitten:
How hard is it gonna be to get Araya 7cs let alone 7bs...... :(
-
Wow, That is nice, my new one is without the brace on the rear stays, its got its original stickers down to the bike shop sticker!!!
The stickers on his one are later, but hey Stu rode them for a long time to things were gonna change!!!. I want to base my replica on the one stu brought to Earls court in 1981, the one Keith Wilson went home with :'( :'( :smitten:
How hard is it gonna be to get Araya 7cs let alone 7bs...... :(
The 7B's or 7C's are around , mainly in the US & 'bay.com . Be prepared to buy any colour & re-anno here :daumenhoch: .
Tony , at least a white Series One plate won't cost you much ! :LolLolLolLol: ( or maybe white/red Haro Color plate ? , Stu used these often ) .
-
I thought (I may be wrong) that the decals changed to the black and red ones (as in my avatar) in 1985. These frames were built 83-84. Mine is an 84 and it has the brace.
As I say I could well be wrong, im not a Redline expert. I just luuuuurrvvve 'em. :smitten:
Yeah , blk/red is 85 . Below is 84 .................
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v201/Mattdub/Redline1984PL20Ad.jpg)
I'm no expert , I might go on a Bren Redline Course for beginners :LolLolLolLol:
-
I've got some black rattraps... but I'm guessing you wont want 1/2 " thread ?
-
I've got some black rattraps... but I'm guessing you wont want 1/2 " thread ?
Thanks but I will need 9/16th to go on the flites! unless i can swap the spindles!!!
-
Wow, That is nice, my new one is without the brace on the rear stays, its got its original stickers down to the bike shop sticker!!!
The stickers on his one are later, but hey Stu rode them for a long time to things were gonna change!!!. I want to base my replica on the one stu brought to Earls court in 1981, the one Keith Wilson went home with :'( :'( :smitten:
How hard is it gonna be to get Araya 7cs let alone 7bs...... :(
Keith is a member on here, screenname kdubbmx, he`s not been on line much though, but you could e-mail him and ask about the bike if ya want, or go on to bmxtalk as he`s a lot more active on there :daumenhoch:
-
Cheers Bill, I do speak to him occasionally, still havent had a chance to meet up for a beer...
I wonder if stus redline is still round his mums??
-
I've got some black rattraps... but I'm guessing you wont want 1/2 " thread ?
Thanks but I will need 9/16th to go on the flites! unless i can swap the spindles!!!
Actually the ends have the screws, so perhaps it comes off ? and the spindles can be changed.
I waited half a year for these babies and now sold the build that they were going on. :LolLolLolLol:
If you interested, I'll see if the ends can be removed... & get some decent pics to you beforehand.
-
I've got some black rattraps... but I'm guessing you wont want 1/2 " thread ?
Thanks but I will need 9/16th to go on the flites! unless i can swap the spindles!!!
Actually the ends have the screws, so perhaps it comes off ? and the spindles can be changed.
I waited half a year for these babies and now sold the build that they were going on. :LolLolLolLol:
If you interested, I'll see if the ends can be removed... & get some decent pics to you beforehand.
Thanks for that :daumenhoch:
-
Here they are... the ends do remove. :daumenhoch:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/othomas2/P1030502.jpg)
I have previously offered these to a mate of mine but I'm waiting to here back whether they will take them or not.
-
1980...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v337/2elliot/stu11.jpg't=1163750463)
Super cool...
-
Thanks Bren, you are a star, wow skyway graphites with titanium flanges!!!!!
I think Ill give up now ???
-
I dont think the fanges are made of Titanium,they look like they are "titanium nitride " coated,like some drill bits etc :daumenhoch:
-
i have got an orphan blue 7c, it's the front wheel on this. So they are around
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/j87/townytownsend/P9060003.jpg).
-
I dont think the fanges are made of Titanium,they look like they are "titanium nitride " coated,like some drill bits etc :daumenhoch:
I was reading an interview on the V site with the Skyway CEO, he was saying that lots of "one offs" were made for factory and sponsered riders, so there is every chance they were truly unique!!!
-
tony just get on with it mate i want to see the finished product im so impatient ::)
-
tony just get on with it mate i want to see the finished product im so impatient ::)
You think your impatient....ive got no finger nails left now, I think I will have to build it with what I have and slowly convert it....
Townsend, if you see any 7b or 7c rims over your way, can you give me a shout, thanks
-
One of the guys on vintage did a nice Stu replica. Oh yeah and a Greg Hill and a Brian Patterson replica. 3 Well nice bikes :)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v260/hutch1970/P1010128.jpg)
-
wow that is a quality trio :daumenhoch:
-
tony just get on with it mate i want to see the finished product im so impatient ::)
Yeah , chop chop Tony & get with the program ::)
-
have you got any decent trades? ??? ???
-
have you got any decent trades? ??? ???
Probably not, but ya never know, what bits you looking for?
-
Havnt you built it yet :2funny:
-
Havnt you built it yet :2funny:
:LolLolLolLol:
-
Havnt you built it yet :2funny:
:LolLolLolLol:
:-[
-
http://cgi.ebay.com/Araya-BMX-rim-20-x-1-75-36-hole-gold-old-school-vintage_W0QQitemZ250049119163QQihZ015QQcategoryZ48845QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Araya-BMX-rim-20-x-1-75-36-hole-gold-old-school-vintage_W0QQitemZ250049119163QQihZ015QQcategoryZ48845QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
there is a gold one
-
http://cgi.ebay.com/Araya-BMX-rim-20-x-1-75-36-hole-gold-old-school-vintage_W0QQitemZ250049119163QQihZ015QQcategoryZ48845QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Araya-BMX-rim-20-x-1-75-36-hole-gold-old-school-vintage_W0QQitemZ250049119163QQihZ015QQcategoryZ48845QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
there is a gold one
Thanks for spotting that, Ive just mailed him to see if he will ship to UK... :daumenhoch:
-
i remember that BMXA run down on Stu BITD. i'll need to get the issue again if ever it surfaces. that F/F set would not have been the same F/F as on the replica. i'm pretty sure Proline II didn't come out til 1981. i believe that rep has the incorrect 2 colour stickers, the correct 3 colour frame stickers are rare if available at all. the chainstay brace didn't appear until about 1983 :daumenhoch:
this will be a great build ratty. best of all looking at the pics of Stu's bike he didn't have anything too exotic on his Proline II. those graphite tuffs were on his earlier Proline, John Crews has the tuffs on his bike in the Nora cup pic. Haro series 2 plate in red huh? goodluck :LolLolLolLol:
-
hey ratty, these might help although they aren't black....http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-OLD-SCHOOL-BMX-RED-KKT-RAT-TRAP-9-16-PEDALS_W0QQitemZ180051319240QQihZ008QQcategoryZ64644QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180051319240
-
aaah $hit, ignore my ebay link, the :Aresehole: dosn't post to anywhere decent :'(
-
Thanks for that info, So I am in a predicament, I have an early pro line 2, 1981/2. What build is gonna be correct?
-
It's not that hard is it?
Redline Proline frame & Forks
Redline Proline V Bars
Redline Brute Stem
Redline Elina seat
Redline Fluted seat post
Redline Flights 185mm
Redline Chainwheel 42 or 43th
Redline Vinyl pad set
Comp III tyres 2.125 & 1.75
Union,KKT or MKS rat traps
MX1000 brake, Terry Cable, Motobike lever, Finned Matty blocks
Suntour Seat clamp
Suntour low flange sealed hubs
Araya 7C or Ukai Box Rims
Alloy nipples
Double Butted spokes
Oakley B2 grips
Haro Series one,Clear with white front...
Try looking on the other sites... Vintagebmx OSbmx or ask Subwax, he knows a bit about Redlines.
I would guess his bike changed every race, but the above should get you away...
Oh... it's Stu Thomsen :P
Bren ;)
-
Thanks Bren, I have altered the spelling mistake. Sorry stu if you read this.
So Bren if I go with that spec all I have to find is
Union,KKT or MKS rat traps
Finned Matty blocks
Oakley B2 grips
Haro Series one,Clear with white front...
Thats not so hard, plus i need the stickers he ran on the plate, the only one I will struggle with is the bike shop one! was it Ralphs?
-
ratty i think there is a set of silver rat traps on Aussy ebay at the moment.
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/e86/nak302/8202bmxa.jpg)
-
thats a great image gto :daumenhoch:
-
It was that sort of pic of Stu that made him such an icon :4_17_5:, Thanks GTO,
Brenn you was so right about the bike changing every race ???,
The only constant was the frame and forks and colour scheme, unless he rode a blue one????
-
Never seen him ride a blue one... but I think I've seen him using coloured Comp ST's in one of the Jox Jag DVDs... ??? could have a coloured bike with black ST's ::)
Oh... Suntour head lock :daumenhoch:
-
When did he ride for SE Racing :)
-
When did he ride for SE Racing :)
back in the late 70's early 80's i think i rember he had a white pk ripper :daumenhoch:
-
Have a look at the Se site, im sure Stu rode for them.
-
Here he is on a PK,
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b375/nogoodthis/a5.jpg)
-
nice pic but i suppose we should get back to that redline have you finished it yet tony :2funny:oh sorry i got this one aswell :daumenhoch:I think buff rode a white one
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/stuGoesLow.jpg)
-
Cheers Zed, you gotta love rippers, they just dont seem to date, that looks fresh :daumenhoch:
-
Cheers Zed, you gotta love rippers, they just dont seem to date, that looks fresh :daumenhoch:
bang on tone
PK rippers :4_17_5:
-
I think rippers still look cool today :daumenhoch:
-
Hurry up, were all waiting
-
Hurry up, were all waiting
Yeah , Noah built the Ark quicker :2funny: :LolLolLolLol:
I can't wait to see it finished , hold on , i am waiting to see it finished :crazy2: . Hurry Up Tony :2gunsfiring_v1:
Paul :coolsmiley:
-
Its gonna be a while, waiting on a 7c rim from the states.. Im very tempted to build it up as it is :-\
-
tone
hold ya horses
dont build it till ya got all the bits ya need
well worth the wait :angel:
-
Cheers Steve, but Its sitting in my office, i have to look at it every day, its too hard.......especially if its not busy at work :-\
-
I still have the wheels from the bike in the picture of Stu on the cover of BMX ACTION & that number plate!!
-
I still have the wheels from the bike in the picture of Stu on the cover of BMX ACTION & that number plate!!
And its taken you this long to tell us? :knuppel2: :LolLolLolLol:
-
I still have the wheels from the bike in the picture of Stu on the cover of BMX ACTION & that number plate!!
You have pm Keith ;)
-
Keith wont part with them despite my efforts over the last 12 months :'( He did however let me have the tyre off of Stus bike ;)
Its been a strange year and most of my bikes are in storage round at 796s house (thanks mate) Except the Stu replica, which has pride of place in the new place :4_17_5:
-
I still have the wheels from the bike in the picture of Stu on the cover of BMX ACTION & that number plate!!
Post a picture please :daumenhoch:
-
come on Mr W, get your aRse in gear.
-
Calm down you lot, and hello by the way, i'm new to this site you know!!
Just about to leave to go to the US for a couple of weeks but when i get back i'll dig out any bits left from Stu's bike & post the pics.
The pedals on it were real old school items even in 1981 & werent the ones shown earlier on this thread, he had them because they were the only pedals big enough for his feet!!
The wheels were quite special, much older era than the bike and the hubs are campagnolo, pretty sure i still have the brake on my torker so when i see it i'll tell what make it is.
He also signed loads of his trophies of his & gave them to me which i still have!!
Didnt know about the big 'C' thing though, can anyone tell me more???
Keith
-
Keith I tried to call you earlier, pm me for my new moby number. I will try and pop over before you go to the states :daumenhoch:
Cant wait to see the rest of your pics :daumenhoch:
:daumenhoch:
-
Calm down, did you see the date of the 1st post NOVEMBER 2006, no posts or updates in 2007???????
-
I still have the wheels from the bike in the picture of Stu on the cover of BMX ACTION & that number plate!!
And its taken you this long to tell us? :knuppel2: :LolLolLolLol:
Just realised that this wasn't Mattdub posting but Kdubbmx :-[ Sorry fella, hope no offence taken :daumenhoch:.
-
:LolLolLolLol: and here's me thinking a replica is er...just that, a replica.
-
I still have the wheels from the bike in the picture of Stu on the cover of BMX ACTION & that number plate!!
And its taken you this long to tell us? :knuppel2: :LolLolLolLol:
Just realised that this wasn't Mattdub posting but Kdubbmx :-[ Sorry fella, hope no offence taken :daumenhoch:.
Ha ha, i dont take offence mate, especially with (old) bmx riders! I'm so laid back my elbows scrape the ground!! Just ask Ratty. 8)
Meet me on the gate though & its a different matter!! :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1:
-
Just had a look at the wheels from Stu's bike as i still have them on my unused (ok maybe once or twice) 83 Torker pro. & they are UKAI rims laced to campag hubs.
Def not ARAYAS as everyone else thought they were. ::)