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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: superbikedan on October 18, 2006, 12:23 PM
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This is a strange one, as a powder coater i'm asking your advice on candy blue and red.
talking to my partner this morning about how many pms i get on these colours we both
can't work out how it's done in powder, candy colours come from custom cars and the
drag racing scene. we think it is 3 or 4 coat process that powder can't do.
So the help i need is,
does any one know the process in powder,
how much has it cost you,
One coat in powder is the same as 3 to 4 coats in two pack so does it look thick,
Any help will appreciated then i can start to look at setting up these colours.
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http://http://www.paintwithpearl.com/candystore.htm
try these i buy it buy the bag and get it applied ghost candy or flip,they sell it on ebay and will tell you how to apply.
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i cant remember how much as i got some a while ago but i got my candy blue with sparkle back monday and it looks the mutts.
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click home at the bottom of there add very impresive
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i cant remember how much as i got some a while ago but i got my candy blue with sparkle back monday and it looks the mutts.
Dan, any pics?
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i will sort some but maybe tommorrow as mrs has camera.quality colours .
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dan the bloke on canvey who ruined my fbm frame stripping it
does the powder then applies a clear laquer with the flake in it
but wouldnt use him as hes a frame wrecker lol
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Out of interest Rhys, what did he do to the frame to wreck it?
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When I got my frame powdered, it was done with chrome-look powder then candy red over that. It looks great in the sun. You cant tell indoors though. He went a bit heavy with the candy red. You can still see the serial numbers though.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v108/coastvl/bike%20bits/bikes052.jpg)
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Out of interest Rhys, what did he do to the frame to wreck it?
he clamped it with a pointed g clamp in 4 places and over did it on the bead blasting
so frame was very ruff and dented lol
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Rhys i've said before in other threads that blasting doesn't damage frames, ie welds, strength ect but if you can, never get them blasted, try to strip back to original metal it's the best way to powder, when blasted it's like painting over sand paper, you need a thicker coat just to cover the rough blast. the best jobs i do is on smooth sanded metal. hope this is of help
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i know now dan lol he uses shot similar to shot gun cartridges lol
so makes the frame look furry lol
as i said wont ever use him again
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Just to ask is it possible to get florecent paint done ? and what if you have a small dent ,is there a special type filler for powder coating or does standard stuff do ???
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you can have any powder you want, the trouble is if it's not a standard stock item them you pay for special mix wich can work out very expensive. a standard 25 kilo box is around 3.50 a kilo, specials can be up to 30 pounds a kilo. as for filler only metal filler will take 180c standard filler will bubble at that heat.
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Got that dip tank sorted yet Dan?
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yep
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Dan let us know when you have sussed the candy colours mate , I may hold on the white and await candy blue
Rich
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will do rich, i'm really struggling on this one, at 9.99 dollors for 25 grams a kilo would work out to expensive, and don't want to b uy from the states. ps what would 1 kilo cost at 9.99 for 25 grams :idiot2:
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about 200 quid ? if there are 1000 grammes in a kilo ?
Rich
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:wtf: thats the most expensive kilo i've ever heard. gonna speak to a powder rep on monday.
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:wtf: thats the most expensive kilo i've ever heard. gonna speak to a powder rep on monday.
thats cheap for the stuff i used to like lol
hehe
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:LolLolLolLol:
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Here you are Dan, direct from the instructions.
Uses in Powder Coating clears
1. Candy Pearls
Our candy pearls should never be mixed with less than
½ pound per 25 grams of our powder. DO NOT HOLD
THE BAG DIRECTLY OVER YOUR CLEAR POWDER,
as the outside of any bags may contain contaminants
that could effect your final result. Candy pearls should
not be baked at temperatures over 400 degrees
Fahrenheit. Follow the instructions of your clear powder
for best baking results.
So looks like you mix the 25g with about 300g of clear. Got to love the way they sell the stuff in grams and then quote pounds for mixing.
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Also quoted from their website (which is a bit of a mess really)
Our Candy Pearls are slightly opaque, meaning that they will competely cover any base coat after several coats. Remember, you are dealing with solid particles of mica, meaning that you will not acheive a truly transparent finish, but will get a semi-transparent finish or a metallic finish,depending on the amout of our pearl candy you use in you clear coat.
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meaning :idiot2:
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I don't know, you're the powder-coater! ;D ;)
How many coats do you usually apply Dan?
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when i did it bitd day we just held the gun till the metal was coated lol
as its powder its done in layers
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normal powder gra one.
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So several coats (mentioned on their website) would be a bit much on a bike. Suppose that's okay when you are applying it to a car that already weighs 3 ton, it's hardly going to notice. ;D
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gra this was why i posted this thread, yes i can do it, i also used to paint cars when i was younger, what i'm after is a knowledge as to how it's done, not from some fancy web site but from a rad member thats had it done and knows how it's done, what it cost and how they thought it looked, and also any uk suppliers.
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I thought you were the only powder-coater on the site Dan, can't remember seeing anyone else say they can do it.
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what i mean gra is most guys on this site have an amazing knowledge of bmx history, bikes, parts ect, so surley some one must know how there pride and joy was painted, whether it's powder, two pack or candy colours, there's gotta be some one who's had it done and knows the process.
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Fingers crossed Dan, that electric blue looks fantastic, I might be tempted.