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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: Glynnyboy on January 18, 2018, 01:05 PM
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Firebird Mk2 freestyler (Phoenix, why? because it's a firebird rising from the ashes and that sounds better than calling it a turdbird :LolLolLolLol: )
Ok thought I’d make a start. I’m not in any rush with this but we have made some progress.
Got this mk2 freestyler frame on mk1 forks off eBay some time ago. Badly powdered, I thought when it arrived there may be some damage where the tubes meet the headtube but it turned out to be powder gather. The frame did have an extra slit cut in so that went off to repair to Andy’s guy Geoff Haslam in Warrington. I was also lucky enough to get a trade on the forks for some mk2’s.
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Got hold of a hutch western h freestyle stem for it. Needs a bit of TLC. As you can see this is definitely not going to be a survivor build because basically it hasn’t .
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I'm in Glynn.
Can't wait for this to form.
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Love a build thread . :4_17_5:
Especially yours Glynn :4_17_5:
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Is it wrong to get giddy over the little stupid things. Bike is going to be white so I thought I’d put some of these on . Chuffed as feck today when they landed on the mat. :LolLolLolLol:
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Great bikes!
Look forward to reading this thread. :daumenhoch:
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Good stuff Glynn mate, I'm sure the attention to detail will be second to none as always :daumenhoch:
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Got hold of a hutch western h freestyle stem for it. Needs a bit of TLC. As you can see this is definitely not going to be a survivor build because basically it hasn’t .
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Looking forward to see what you do with this
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Got hold of a hutch western h freestyle stem for it. Needs a bit of TLC. As you can see this is definitely not going to be a survivor build because basically it hasn’t .
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Looking forward to see what you do with this
Well the stems just going to be white this is what the cap looks like at the moment. I cleaned up the original bolts too. I got a new stem blot so just have to finish the base.
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Changed my mind three times on the brakes already.
1st I was thinking white mx900’s with tech 4’s
Then it was black odyssey Rx3’s with odyssey 2000 callipers.
Then finally decided on silver tech 6’s with nippons.
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This has the potential to be a real Beauty "wantit" "wantit"
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This has the potential to be a real Beauty "wantit" "wantit"
I'll try not to let the dp side down Brett :coolsmiley:
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The stem cap looks spot on.
Did you remove the chrome and how if you did.
What's your prep work for the base to get it the same finish as the cap
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The stem cap looks spot on.
Did you remove the chrome and how if you did.
What's your prep work for the base to get it the same finish as the cap
Basically i sat and peeled the chrome off. When i got to a point where it felt like some of it wouldn't peel i placed the cap in boiling water. That seemed to raise the edges slighthy so i could carry on peeling. Obviously the cap is a little harder than the base because you don't want to loose the H. I just masked the H and used spray filler then sanded smooth.
Ive started on the base by rubbing any lumps from the hammer rash down then doing the same thing. I think it's going to look ok, it's not a full on metal resto but the bikes a rider, the stem is structurally sound so as long as it looks clean i will be fine with that.
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I didn't realize the chrome would come off that easily.
I know what you mean about the H as there not stamped/machined that deep to start with
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Another part or two for the puzzle.
I noticed one of the old Glyn Lewis pics that he’s running renthals. Well I didn’t have any of those in the stash but I do have these Galindos waiting to go on something so I thought why not.
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At the moment I’m fancying a hutch element running across the middle of the bike. So hutch seat clamp
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Then I have a survivor hutch power disc that’s going on a redline flight crank with techmatic B.B. I also have a hutch 2/1 to go with the stem.
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great work so far Glynn , I'm looking forward to watching the progress on this :daumenhoch:
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Loving this already Glynn.
Those bars look really cool.
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Are you going for spokes or Mags on this build? I’ve just started to build my dp up and have gone for OGK’s until I can afford some pro class rims for it.
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I love OGKs on a DP ... its what I rode BITD fistblump
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Are you going for spokes or Mags on this build? I’ve just started to build my dp up and have gone for OGK’s until I can afford some pro class rims for it.
I’m going for white z rims with black z hubs on cheing shing snake bellies.
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Looking good so far Glynn. Am pleased Geoff sorted the frame our for you :4_17_5: :daumenhoch: :Great_Britain:
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Another cracking build Glynn :daumenhoch:
Geoff does do some awesome work :daumenhoch:
He did an amazing job with my soon to be built DP !
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Great thread and great build so far Glynn fistblump
Can’t wait to see yours too phil :4_17_5:
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Great stuff Glynny, love a good build thread :daumenhoch:
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Another cracking build Glynn :daumenhoch:
Geoff does do some awesome work :daumenhoch:
He did an amazing job with my soon to be built DP !
Looking forward to seeing yours mate, it’s that extra bit special with it been your og ride.
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This project took a bit of an about turn. I fancied using dp ladder bars, some come up on eBay, a package without wheels, I managed to get it so moved my ff on.
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The Rickman seatpost was a nice little extra. At the moment the ladder bars and the seatpost are off for fresh chrome.
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Chainring combo decisions made.
Nos 44t proneck chaingring with tuf neck disc & bolts.
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Christmas came early for me today. Had my ladder bars chromed and the Rickman seatpost that came on this purchase. The knurling detail remains intact and also the weld detail. Johnathan Butler did an awesome job on these. Many thanks mate.
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Decals on, just love that bit.
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Ching ching :D
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is that a 22.2 or 22.6 Rickman seat-post ? It'll be stamped near the bottom ...
Just wondered if it's 22.6 with the new chrome if it'll fit the DP as it should be too big with the DP taking a 22.2 post ???
PS if it is too big PLEASE Sell it to me as i need one for my Rickman :daumenhoch: :LolLolLolLol:
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is that a 22.2 or 22.6 Rickman seat-post ? It'll be stamped near the bottom ...
Just wondered if it's 22.6 with the new chrome if it'll fit the DP as it should be too big with the DP taking a 22.2 post ???
PS if it is too big PLEASE Sell it to me as i need one for my Rickman :daumenhoch: :LolLolLolLol:
It’s a 22.2 mate.
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is that a 22.2 or 22.6 Rickman seat-post ? It'll be stamped near the bottom ...
Just wondered if it's 22.6 with the new chrome if it'll fit the DP as it should be too big with the DP taking a 22.2 post ???
PS if it is too big PLEASE Sell it to me as i need one for my Rickman :daumenhoch: :LolLolLolLol:
It’s a 22.2 mate.
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Ah Sweet .... :daumenhoch:
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Had the forks chromed and got my z hubs back from paint . They turned out great . Wasn’t sure until these came back what I was doing with the frame but feck it that’s off for chrome too now. My buddy Butts has done a cracking job on the bars & forks and with the frame been protected with paint it would be a great candidate for a 1st time chroming. He understands less can be more with the prep and I don’t want the shit polishing out of it. Original detail is paramount. So fingers crossed the bike will be done for Chestair in April 2020. Just been having a chuckle over how many times I’ve changed my mind over things already since this project started.

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The chrome look really nice indeed. :slayer: Can't wait to see what colour scheme you're going for with all the other bits. :daumenhoch:
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Looking forward to the rest of the build as it progresses 👍
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The chrome look really nice indeed. :slayer: Can't wait to see what colour scheme you're going for with all the other bits. :daumenhoch:
Got a few ideas that I’ve got parts to do Andy but the 1st one is going to be pretty boring. One of my favourite pics of any freestyle bike was bmx addicts chrome n black kuwahara exhibitionist. So that’s going be 1st on my mind. After that I’m going white bits using white Z’s then at some point I might just feck everything up and go yellow tuffs and all sorts.
Here’s the pic I’m talking about.
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Decided to go chrome. Good thing about a mate doing it is that he understands my exact requirements and what can be expected, the pic updates have been a good touch too. Frame paint stripped to start with then polished but keeping weld detail / serial intact etc. Then he recommended a light copper plate for better end result. Problem with triple plating is after the copper it has to go through prep a second time ready for stage 2 & 3 of the plating. Suppose that’s why a lot of chromers don’t do triple plate.
At this point it just come back from lite copper and is going through second prep for stage 2 & 3. If things go to plan I should have it back finished ready to build for Chester fingers crossed.
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The following are the after lite copper pics
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Attention to detail is second to none as always Glynn mate :coolsmiley:
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Awesome work Glynn. Great to see this getting the treatment it deserves

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Love that light copper! The chrome's going to look great but I'd love to see someone do a complete in that finish! :daumenhoch:
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Love that light copper! The chrome's going to look great but I'd love to see someone do a complete in that finish! :daumenhoch:
There's a few copper finish builds on the museum.........
https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/mongoose/21633 (https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/mongoose/21633)
https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/hutch/69856 (https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/hutch/69856)
https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/kuwahara/74180 (https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/kuwahara/74180)
https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/robinson/35516 (https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/robinson/35516)
Sorry for the hijack Glynn....
Now chop chop get her built :popcorn: :LolLolLolLol:
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Yeah, sorry for the thread hijack!! Those museum ones are way too...well coppery, if you get my drift. The light copper finish on Glynn's Firebird is more raw, less showy. I'd love to do a frame with exactly that same finish, get it clear-coated then rock it as is, but then I am going through a raw, industrial phase at the moment!! :D
Back to the Firebird, does your mate just chrome bikes or other stuff too?
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Ok so this happened today. Got the frame back and it’s quite simply the nicest chrome job I’ve witnessed. It hasn’t been over polished, details retained in welding and you can see the original linish lines in the gusset plates, the bb is perfect. I’m well made up.
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That’s a cracking job, my brother would love that as it was his first freestyler. Going to look amazing built up.
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That chrome job is simply stunning :coolsmiley:, you must be so pleased.
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Looks amazing that Glynn mate :coolsmiley:
I find with modern day chrome it often looks "thick" and takes definition away from welds and edges (a bit like powder compared to paint) but that really does look spot on mate.
She's gonna be a beauty :4_17_5:
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Best looking re-chrome I've seen in ages :daumenhoch: can I ask what price would you be looking at for a job like that? what condition was it in before the chrome and was it prepped in any way before you sent it or does the guy do it all? sorry for all the question lol but looking to have a frame set done myself,cheers :daumenhoch:
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Best looking re-chrome I've seen in ages :daumenhoch: can I ask what price would you be looking at for a job like that? what condition was it in before the chrome and was it prepped in any way before you sent it or does the guy do it all? sorry for all the question lol but looking to have a frame set done myself,cheers :daumenhoch:
There’s some pics and a bit about what it’s been through in the thread. One guy did the job for me. Price and time differs on frame condition and prep required. If you want a quote you can send some detailed pics to him and he’ll get back to you with an idea of what you’d be looking at. He’s user Jonnyb on here.
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Looks amazing that Glynn mate :coolsmiley:
I find with modern day chrome it often looks "thick" and takes definition away from welds and edges (a bit like powder compared to paint) but that really does look spot on mate.
She's gonna be a beauty :4_17_5:
Yeah he’s managed exactly what I was hoping for. A chrome job that when you look at it , it’s got you scratching your head on if it just mint og or fresh.
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Top quality that! & even better that he’s a RADster! :4_17_5:
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Best looking re-chrome I've seen in ages :daumenhoch: can I ask what price would you be looking at for a job like that? what condition was it in before the chrome and was it prepped in any way before you sent it or does the guy do it all? sorry for all the question lol but looking to have a frame set done myself,cheers :daumenhoch:
There’s some pics and a bit about what it’s been through in the thread. One guy did the job for me. Price and time differs on frame condition and prep required. If you want a quote you can send some detailed pics to him and he’ll get back to you with an idea of what you’d be looking at. He’s user Jonnyb on here.
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Headset & decals fitted.
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Oh yeah :coolsmiley:
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Headset & decals fitted.
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Now that is stunning. 8)
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Didn’t realise I’m missing a brake cable, chain and some calliper arm decals but I am pretty pleased with how it’s turning out so far.
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Simply Stunning :smitten:
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Now you dont get such a beauty like that every day. explosion explosion explosion explosion explosion
Nailed it so far Glynn fistblump