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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: factory pilot on April 28, 2016, 08:45 AM
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Okay so love 'em (Dan) or loathe 'em (Steve69) "Repop Muck" or the New Reproduction Part is here to stay.
The longer I've been in the scene personally the less I've come to like them on my own builds but that's just because I'm an anal so and so and want the proper parts I couldn't have bitd.
They are however a necessary evil for many of us in an increasingly shrinking marketplace where prices have gone absolutely mental ( £300+ for shotgun seats and £800+ for a TA )
Here are 3 re-issues that I thought were good because of the following criteria..
They were good copies of the originals.
They were made with good materials.
They were all reasonably priced.
The Porkchop Viscount Dominator
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/1977acbedba4d47fd8eb58f8131269b6.jpg)
The Haro Series 1B Plate
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/f4468e471bc25383445ba1c3c68f7e20.jpg)
The A'me Unitron
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/1024f4e1482d87d0c52e84f4f268aea1.jpg)
Right then Radsters..Show no mercy here ...
Which NRPs do you rate and which ones do you hate?
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Like....Kenda K55 tyres...gives all the freestylers a chance to ride and still look old school
Hate....any of the repop Dia Compe stuff....Crapola quality and look compared to the originals
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Re-pop mx1000`s are fooking terrible. :buck2:
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Two that i like are :
Profile cranks
(http://www.gregterzian.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/profile-4_505.jpg)
2014 Haro Sport in Chrome
(http://bmxmuseum.com/image/image_copy1691_lg.jpg)
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Kenda K55's are ace ! ... Agreed a tyre that looks proper and rides well
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/17a0231095e6c0dddbd33fcc3721c385.jpg)
Yeah the DC mx1000s are so so bad .. Totally with you ...They are cheap, look awful, are badly made with crap thin metal and they don't work at all
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/d676cd8a646b5fb0e9c4e9927eec54fd.jpg)
How could they get it so wrong ?
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Two that i like are :
Profile cranks
(http://www.gregterzian.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/profile-4_505.jpg)
2014 Haro Sport in Chrome
(http://bmxmuseum.com/image/image_copy1691_lg.jpg)
I've got to agree Joff those Profiles are spot on .. Andy ( DTTDB ) has them on his TA and they look mega!
Although I wish Haro hadn't repopped everything in sight ( that another long discussion for another time! ) .. That Sport really is lush... The other frames are nice too if that what floats your boat
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As long as you can tell the difference and they look good they are ok. As long as they are not that close that twats try and sell them as original.
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If you rub your fingers along the sides of a Kashimax Aero, on someone else's bike, to see if the Aero is OG embossed, or a NRP with an Aero sticker, then there's a very high chance that your Wife or girlfriend is having sex with someone else. ::)
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If you rub your fingers along the sides of a Kashimax Aero, on someone else's bike, to see if the Aero is OG embossed, or a NRP with an Aero sticker, then there's a very high chance that your Wife or girlfriend is having sex with someone else. ::)
Lmfao Dan!!! :bellend: :LolLolLolLol: ;D
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As long as you can tell the difference and they look good they are ok. As long as they are not that close that twats try and sell them as original.
I'm with you on this one ... Totally fella !!! :4_17_5:
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If you rub your fingers along the sides of a Kashimax Aero, on someone else's bike, to see if the Aero is OG embossed, or a NRP with an Aero sticker, then there's a very high chance that your Wife or girlfriend is having sex with someone else. ::)
You probably are only ever having sex with yourself if you partake in such joyous activities to be fair ! :D
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I've heard along the grapevine that those Knight Goose frames are a bit of alright ;)
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I've heard along the grapevine that those Knight Goose frames are a bit of alright ;)
I don't suppose you have a photo of this rare mythical beast do you Rob ? ::) :LolLolLolLol:
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:LolLolLolLol: it's never been seen Any......rarer than a rare thing!
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:LolLolLolLol: it's never been seen Any......rarer than a rare thing!
:LolLolLolLol: I am a fan of high quality low numbered Repop stuff too as most of you know :daumenhoch:
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If you rub your fingers along the sides of a Kashimax Aero, on someone else's bike, to see if the Aero is OG embossed, or a NRP with an Aero sticker, then there's a very high chance that your Wife or girlfriend is having sex with someone else. ::)
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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The good:
Profile anniversary cranks. Like Ant said, I have a set on my T/A and they are great. Absolutely love them.
Hutch stuff. Ok, we all know that the Hutch brand has been bought & revived by new owners, but the pedals are lovely. The seat clamps look good, although they don't actually clamp very well.
Oakley/A'ME grips. If you can get them in the colour you need, then go for it. Nice grips.
The bad. Sorry to be a Dia Compe hater, but I bought one of the repro MX 1000's a few years ago and it's just wrong. Thin alloy, MX not moulded/Stamped into the arms, and that horrible gold tinged hardwear. Cheap and nasty. Get yourself a set of Formos brakes (if you can find them). Amazing quality copies of the originals.
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I concur with the 2014 Dominguez my white one the welding and quality of finish is superb.
The tyres out of natsukashi from the og moulds are good as well.
Dc stuff is nasty, I've got 1000s and some tech lVs and they look like sprayed play dough.
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As you know, I love repop stuff, suits my budget and prevents the 'waiting for that part' scenario/trap, that I've seen so many people torture themselves with.
There's not many repop parts that I wouldn't use, but the DC MX1000's are a definite "nono", I had them on my Haro, and they looked awful, and were impossible to set up.
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I stuck one of the repop MX1000 on the front of my ripper when I went on a charity ride last year cos it was cheap and thought i'd be better off with two brakes. other than the blue being the wrong shade it actually works really well. very snappy and stops really well.
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I've heard along the grapevine that those Knight Goose frames are a bit of alright ;)
How to ruin a repop thread ^^^^ :LolLolLolLol:
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I've heard along the grapevine that those Knight Goose frames are a bit of alright ;)
I don't suppose you have a photo of this rare mythical beast do you Rob ? ::) :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Just spat my coffee out laughing :2funny:
Personally candy red or candy blue would be amazing, just like the colours they came in back in the 70's...... but alas, they're just an urban legend........ >:D
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I wish someone would repop SHARP grips..... ::)
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Those Kenda K55 tyres look interesting - they for sale in the UK or just OZ
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Not sure Nick .. I'll have a look when I get a minute..
Meanwhile ....
Whereas the 2011 repop Dominators were spot on ... These have just come out ...check out the horrible fat gold writing ...so so bad .....
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160521/c72ce2cbea3fbfedecb861849566eb94.jpg)
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ooh, that's nasty. If anyone has seen the honey badger video on youtube, you will have no doubt had that 'it's nasty' phrase stuck in your head at some point
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There's some very hypocritical comments in this thread already.
In one breath you say, "as long as you can easily tell the difference so no one gets ripped off". Then in the next, comes the comment of " how could Dia-Compe get it so wrong" ?!?!? Short answer... Because they done what people wanted.
I also don't buy into the... "I couldn't finish the build without them" line (with the exception of decals)
BITD, if you wanted a 3pc crank and couldn't afford the Redline 401's you dream of, you bought Suntour VX's or whatever. You didn't sulk and say "I can't come out to play coz my bike doesn't have the cranks I wanted".
I get the whole build spec scenario but even then, if you are going to the trouble of sourcing all the correct parts, repop isn't gonna cut the mustard either.
I personally believe it has diluted the hobby for nothing more than monetary gain. Which sadly is aimed at fleecing our generation.
(this is my opinion and not aimed at any individual)
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P.S.
Love the way I'm the "hater", I can't be the only one :LolLolLolLol:
I'm not really a grumpy Cnut, I'm just passionate about our hobby :daumenhoch:
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I'm all for original wherever possible, but am happy to include repop parts sometimes. I couldn't accurately say exactly the reasons for why I like certain parts to be real, and am happy to buy/use others that are repop. I can't make sense of it myself sometimes. Cost definitely plays a part, but not massively. It's more about availability for me. If I could find 2 more NOS/mint pairs of original Hutch beartraps for the price of repops, then i'd gladly use them. As I ride all my bikes, I don't really want to scuff or wreck a NOS set of pedals that could be hard and expensive to replace. MInd you, I fitted a NOS pair of tyres to my Changa and that gets ridden so try and work that one out. See - I told you I struggle to make sense of it all!
And no - you're not a grumpy cnut :daumenhoch:
You have a passion for something for reasons that are personal to you. You like what you like and make your own rules to please yourself. That's the right way to do things because it's right for you
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Personally, if it doesn't come from the era that we came from, then it's not Bmx. I agree that decals are a must as they are few and far between, but parts, everything from frame sets to washers, are out there.
I do wish that a lot hoarders would actually release a lot of the items into the market though. I have a very small number of parts that I keep hold of, but I know of many who will just hoard loads of items for the sake of 'protecting history', etc.
A shame really.
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I guess most of us are hypocrites Steve I agree with you.
Life for most of us non-purists is always grey not black and white.
Don't get me wrong I adore an era correct bike and my latest build ( 14 months and counting ) will hopefully be one for the purists like your good selves.
I think you made a good point Steve that bitd if you couldn't afford flights you got a one piece ...
In my case back then it was Landar parts ... That's all I could afford so that's what I put on my bike.
I equate a lot of the modern repop stuff with Landar stuff then i.e. on some builds I can't find or afford or want to put OG parts on them so I go for a cheaper option.
It's a compromise for me but like Andy said sometimes there's no rhyme or reason to our choices .. We're all individuals and free to enjoy this hobby in our own way for our own reasons.
I love a good purist though Steve like yourself because your builds and yours too Gnarlyscoots are the ones we all admire and aspire too..
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There's a genuine place for repop/nrp stuff like tyres, grips, padsets, some hardware like seats, freewheels (no one does these mind), brake pads and other small hardware. Not so sure the market is there for all the stuff that is being made though but pretty soon all that will be old school and the cycle will begin again!
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I accept that certain things like decals,padsets etc can be extremely hard to find and I do use these on occasion,but only until some og ones come up.
My rider has some new parts on there such as twin pinch flites, new font tris, new tioga pedals etc, for mainly practical reasons.
I have made small parts myself, for stems, etc, so they can be returned to service.
Some parts are very hard to come by, however, alternatives can be used and sometimes they are cheaper than repoops.
The repoop Haro 1b plates are a good example of unneeded repoop, why would you want one?
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I think everyone will have there own reasons for repop, I count tyres, grips cables etc as wear items and dont mind them at least you can ride your bike. As for the brake calipers and cranks etc if it was for a cheaper build then I would just use cheaper original alternatives.
But like DTTDB said most of us will let the odd repoop part go for a reason that only makes sense to us. :daumenhoch: