Post by: oldschoolace on March 24, 2015, 09:42 PM
Back in October i got a call out of the blue and my long search was over, the frame landed and plans were drawn up.
House moves, Christmas, work schedules and a certain franch race frame with a stuck seatpost all conspired to halt the project but a length of 1 1/8th inch diameter steel rod turned up today and was the catalyst to get the ball rolling.
The poor frame had obviously had a hard life and some agricultural type had been running around on it without any bottom cup and bearings :shocked:
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(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0644_zps34f7fc75.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0644_zps34f7fc75.jpg.html)
With a nod of advice from Phil and a new toy in the shape of a planishing hammer, i spent this afternoon coaxing the flaired tube back straight using my heavy lump of 1 1/8 inch rod as a former.
This is set to be quite a lengthy build and as the title suggests it may contain some carpentry porn :D
Plenty more pics coming soon
Post by: griff on March 24, 2015, 09:58 PM
And you've already built the pedals :daumenhoch:
I thought of you when I saw these a little while back
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Post by: oldschoolace on March 24, 2015, 10:02 PM
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 24, 2015, 10:07 PM
the works the fun bit though right . :daumenhoch:
Post by: oldschoolace on March 24, 2015, 10:17 PM
Opinions on my inlay option 1 or 2?
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(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0764_zpsx1dthr0u.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0764_zpsx1dthr0u.jpg.html)
Im more inclined to option 2 myself :)
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 24, 2015, 10:25 PM
Post by: griff on March 25, 2015, 12:06 AM
Im shying away from wooden rims Griff but i did build a steam box today too. The chainstays and bars especially are going to be an interestingly steep learning curve. Ive only done a little steam bending years ago
Wooden rims though... :daumenhoch:
Post by: Devilock on March 25, 2015, 08:14 AM
Post by: oldschoolace on March 25, 2015, 07:10 PM
Post by: Gary72 on March 25, 2015, 08:00 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on March 27, 2015, 07:25 PM
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(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1320_zpsu4gbkls3.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1320_zpsu4gbkls3.jpg.html)
(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1321_zpsf3q4crrx.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1321_zpsf3q4crrx.jpg.html)
I improvised some centering cones out of these firm rubber door stops from clas ohlson
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Hacksaw or angle grinder?..... hmmmm :chin:
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 27, 2015, 07:43 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on March 27, 2015, 07:52 PM
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 27, 2015, 10:24 PM
Post by: chubby on March 27, 2015, 11:22 PM
Post by: deeman on March 28, 2015, 02:52 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on March 28, 2015, 04:38 PM
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Post by: griff on March 28, 2015, 04:46 PM
Going with option 2?
Post by: oldschoolace on March 28, 2015, 04:49 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on March 28, 2015, 09:47 PM
(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1325_zpsyjwsli1i.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1325_zpsyjwsli1i.jpg.html)
Post by: Jaymz on March 28, 2015, 11:01 PM
Post by: BMX1973 on March 29, 2015, 11:40 AM
2 looks more natural /organic.
Post by: MartyC on March 30, 2015, 12:18 PM
Post by: insectbones on March 30, 2015, 04:04 PM
Gonna keep an eye on this though, looks interesting :daumenhoch:
Post by: oldschoolace on March 30, 2015, 08:04 PM
Turns out a lunch hour of filing gleans little in the way of results.
Tempted to alter the shape of the drops too or maybe drill a hole or two :chin:
Post by: fischflo on March 30, 2015, 08:32 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on March 31, 2015, 06:18 PM
At least the bubble gum seam welds are gone now. Hopefully the other lugs won't put up as much of a struggle
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Post by: john4130 on April 01, 2015, 05:54 AM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 01, 2015, 07:53 AM
Post by: chubby on April 01, 2015, 06:42 PM
They are brazed and my first thought was to try and remove them. After a chat with Phil I decided against it as the heat needed to release the joints is alot great than it is to braze. The extra steel should add a bit more strength too
To your snooker cue's ???
Post by: oldschoolace on April 02, 2015, 04:06 PM
:LolLolLolLol:
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Post by: griff on April 02, 2015, 04:43 PM
More pics please!
Post by: chubby on April 02, 2015, 05:05 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 02, 2015, 05:12 PM
How can it not be against the law to sell something that doesnt do what it claims to do :2gunsfiring_v1:
Post by: chubby on April 02, 2015, 06:13 PM
Nitromors..... ::)
How can it not be against the law to sell something that doesnt do what it claims to do :2gunsfiring_v1:
Chuck some methelyne chloride in it :daumenhoch:
Post by: oldschoolace on April 04, 2015, 05:55 PM
Anyway time to do something about those bubble gum welds and weld spatter. These things really were thrown together ;D
Before
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After..... ALOT of grinding
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(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1355_zpsdnrqqn5f.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1355_zpsdnrqqn5f.jpg.html)
Almost ready for some wet or dry and a bit of polishing :daumenhoch:
Post by: oldschoolace on April 04, 2015, 10:03 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 10, 2015, 03:08 PM
Post by: MartyC on April 13, 2015, 02:43 PM
Sorry i dont have any more pics. Sanding shitty old, low end, wanky welded drops is a complete arse >:(
That's what a dremel is for :LolLolLolLol:
Post by: oldschoolace on April 14, 2015, 04:36 PM
(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0638_zps587a969f.jpg)
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Post by: Jaymz on April 14, 2015, 07:17 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 14, 2015, 10:40 PM
Post by: bobbbbsy on April 14, 2015, 11:06 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 14, 2015, 11:17 PM
Took a while, but coaxed it back a treat :daumenhoch:
Post by: bobbbbsy on April 14, 2015, 11:20 PM
Post by: chubby on April 14, 2015, 11:22 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 14, 2015, 11:23 PM
nice . oh . was it all out of wack inside the headtube ?
Yeah, because someone had been running round on it with no bearings the leading 5-6mm funneled out like the end of a trumpet
Post by: bobbbbsy on April 14, 2015, 11:25 PM
Post by: bobbbbsy on April 14, 2015, 11:27 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 14, 2015, 11:33 PM
Post by: bobbbbsy on April 14, 2015, 11:39 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 16, 2015, 10:07 PM
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Got the steam box finished too. Fitted the internal racking for the ash timber and a valve to connect the wallpaper steamer to :daumenhoch:
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(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1371_zps5iujanqp.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1371_zps5iujanqp.jpg.html)
Big day tomorrow, first attempt at the bars awaits :D
Post by: chubby on April 16, 2015, 10:16 PM
You not gonna use them big gulp bars then Clint :teef:
Post by: oldschoolace on April 16, 2015, 10:20 PM
Post by: chubby on April 16, 2015, 10:22 PM
Nope, going on a new school build out of odd parts i have knocking around for my nephew :)
:(
Post by: oldschoolace on April 16, 2015, 10:30 PM
Post by: chubby on April 16, 2015, 10:34 PM
Still available on the bay ;)
Nowt to put em on :LolLolLolLol:
Post by: bobbbbsy on April 16, 2015, 10:42 PM
Post by: chubby on April 16, 2015, 10:44 PM
Post by: bobbbbsy on April 16, 2015, 10:46 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 17, 2015, 05:43 PM
Gave me time to tweek the jig though with a few additional formers and turn buttons
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Rich, the theory is that most timbers take around an hour per inch thickness in the steamer then you get around a minute to do your thing before it starts to stiffen up again
ooohh errr missus ;D
Post by: Bigfrawg on April 17, 2015, 06:29 PM
I love a thread like this but have no patience and can't wait to see this done . Stop drip feeding us you bloody tease . Maybe if you stopped designing and making rad bike parts you could have this done in no time lol .
Again , great work mate
Post by: oldschoolace on April 17, 2015, 06:47 PM
Post by: Bigfrawg on April 17, 2015, 06:50 PM
Post by: chubby on April 18, 2015, 04:16 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 18, 2015, 05:17 PM
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I suspect a combination of a tight radius and the ash being kiln dried rather than green (undried) has stumped me today.
I have 2 dowels left and may soak them for a few days to see if it helps. I suspect it wont >:(
Thinking cap need a dusting off, would really like timber bars if possible :)
Post by: chubby on April 18, 2015, 05:42 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 18, 2015, 06:20 PM
fookin hate laminating stuff
Post by: MartyC on April 19, 2015, 09:12 AM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 19, 2015, 10:48 AM
Post by: Bigfrawg on April 19, 2015, 02:38 PM
Post by: rodriguez on April 19, 2015, 03:08 PM
IMHO as I'm not a carpenter I'd sack it off and go for laminate, would this also not have the advantage of being less susceptible to expansion and shrinkage, I've read that's a possible problem with the bamboo bikes.
Post by: chubby on April 19, 2015, 07:01 PM
I did think that and they would be easy enough to do but I'm going for an early look and 4 piece bars don't really convey that. Might make a set anyway :daumenhoch:
Freestyle ones ???
Post by: dp and chopper dude on April 21, 2015, 09:19 AM
Post by: oldschoolace on April 21, 2015, 05:09 PM
Made a jig for the slight S shape in the chainstays. Hopefully the curves are gentle enough to bend the dowels but i suspect i may need green Ash for that too :(
Post by: chubby on April 21, 2015, 05:13 PM
Im not sure soaking does a great deal to be honest. The problem is that i bought all the dowels for the frame kiln dried which sets the lignin in the wood (the stuff that makes it flex) It cant really be unset by water thought water can soften the wood itself a little.Get some metal tubes, belive they work quite well on bicycles :whistle:
Made a jig for the slight S shape in the chainstays. Hopefully the curves are gentle enough to bend the dowels but i suspect i may need green Ash for that too :(
Post by: oldschoolace on April 21, 2015, 05:15 PM
Post by: MartyC on April 24, 2015, 02:32 PM
I did think that and they would be easy enough to do but I'm going for an early look and 4 piece bars don't really convey that. Might make a set anyway :daumenhoch:
How early? VC8s were around in 82/83. ELF blast bars were much later but have no bends but would look out of place.
Post by: Gary72 on May 19, 2015, 11:22 PM
https://woodenbikedotcom.wordpress.com
Post by: oldschoolace on July 17, 2015, 07:12 PM
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Post by: chubby on July 17, 2015, 07:36 PM
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Post by: oldschoolace on July 17, 2015, 09:05 PM
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on July 17, 2015, 09:22 PM
Post by: chubby on July 17, 2015, 09:53 PM
Yep a Marlboro drop never looked so good :LolLolLolLol:
Just used sand paper ???
Looks fookin great pal
Post by: oldschoolace on July 17, 2015, 10:09 PM
Will this be ready for MK ar Clint ???
Sadly no Terry, I will be lucky if I get the Vitus built in time for MK let alone this.
Next year though :daumenhoch:
Dremel and wet or dry Rich :)
Post by: oldschoolace on August 26, 2015, 04:38 PM
Tasty top tube action :)
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Post by: chubby on August 26, 2015, 05:03 PM
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on August 26, 2015, 08:12 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on September 02, 2015, 07:20 PM
Post by: chubby on September 02, 2015, 07:53 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on September 02, 2015, 07:59 PM
Post by: CustardLips on September 02, 2015, 09:08 PM
Forgot it's world famous for woodland is Manchester :chin:
Course we've got trees... Northern Monkeys have gotta live somewhere. :knuppel2:
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Post by: chubby on September 02, 2015, 09:29 PM
Forgot it's world famous for woodland is Manchester :chin:
Course we've got trees... Northern Monkeys have gotta live somewhere. :knuppel2:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/CustardLips/Mobile%20Uploads/102441138_Architect_281793c_zps89a6027b.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/CustardLips/media/Mobile%20Uploads/102441138_Architect_281793c_zps89a6027b.jpg.html)
Bound to be some decent bar shaped branches in that lot, have a healthy smell of piss to no doubt :teef:
Post by: CustardLips on September 02, 2015, 09:49 PM
Oh aye there'll be plenty of bendy branches in there after a lifetime of catching cookers, couches, fridges and tele's. :LolLolLolLol:Forgot it's world famous for woodland is Manchester :chin:
Course we've got trees... Northern Monkeys have gotta live somewhere. :knuppel2:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/CustardLips/Mobile%20Uploads/102441138_Architect_281793c_zps89a6027b.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/CustardLips/media/Mobile%20Uploads/102441138_Architect_281793c_zps89a6027b.jpg.html)
Bound to be some decent bar shaped branches in that lot, have a healthy smell of piss to no doubt :teef:
Post by: oldschoolace on September 02, 2015, 09:53 PM
Post by: CustardLips on September 02, 2015, 10:01 PM
:LolLolLolLol: that pic is just missing a worn compe 3 hanging from a lamp post;D Yeah and some poor fookers Adidas hanging from a telegraph wire. :LolLolLolLol:
Post by: oldschoolace on September 02, 2015, 10:20 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on February 02, 2016, 05:02 PM
Because i had to cut the original tube out and file them flush with the lugs, (they were braised in), it meant i couldnt just insert the ash dowels stright into each lug socket. Each dowel end with have to have a custom tenon cut to match each lug socket :'(
Happy with how its going so far :daumenhoch:
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Post by: chubby on February 02, 2016, 05:05 PM
Post by: oldschoolace on February 02, 2016, 05:08 PM
Post by: griff on February 02, 2016, 05:12 PM
Its pretty tight bud but will be smearing the lug sockets with an industrial strength epoxy :daumenhoch:
ooo Clint, I love it when you talk dirty :bondage:
Post by: chubby on February 02, 2016, 05:12 PM
Its pretty tight bud but will be smearing the lug sockets with an industrial strength epoxy :daumenhoch:Not pva then ;)
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Post by: Jaymz on February 02, 2016, 05:49 PM
Post by: deeman on February 02, 2016, 06:09 PM
Post by: griff on September 12, 2016, 10:35 AM
Post by: factory pilot on September 12, 2016, 12:49 PM
Haven't got a clue what you're up too :-\
Gonna keep an eye on this though, looks interesting :daumenhoch:
What he says ^^^ :D
Post by: oldschoolace on September 12, 2016, 01:01 PM
Will be ready for MK 17 ;)
Post by: chubby on September 12, 2016, 08:49 PM
Certainly not dead, just work keeps getting in the way >:(
Will be ready for MK 17 ;)
3017 ??
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Post by: oldschoolace on September 12, 2016, 09:22 PM
guess I had better crack on.... And leave your stem on a dusty shelf
Post by: chubby on September 12, 2016, 09:23 PM
😯😯😯😯😯😯LolLolLol:
guess I had better crack on.... And leave your stem on a dusty shelf
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Post by: CustardLips on September 12, 2016, 10:07 PM
😯😯😯😯😯😯
guess I had better crack on.... And leave your stem on a dusty shelf
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Talked yourself into that Rich. :LolLolLolLol:
Post by: chubby on September 12, 2016, 10:09 PM
I know Nick 😖😖😖😯😯😯😯😯😯
guess I had better crack on.... And leave your stem on a dusty shelf
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Talked yourself into that Rich.
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Post by: deeman on September 12, 2016, 10:55 PM
Post by: chubby on September 12, 2016, 10:59 PM
Keep it up Clint....This is going to shape up great! :daumenhoch:Don't distract him from my stem Damo 😁😁
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Post by: deeman on September 12, 2016, 11:11 PM
Keep it up Clint....This is going to shape up great! :daumenhoch:Don't distract him from my stem Damo 😁😁
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Oops...sorry mate! :yahoo_silent: