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Title: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Bfellows on January 17, 2015, 07:09 PM
Bought me a set of OGKs for the Trickfox and decided to strip and rebuild them (as you do.........)  Found a bit of a mess.........

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Rather than scrap them I had a mooch on the museum and saw that a few people had converted Peregrine and GT hubs from loose ball to sealed bearing so decided to give it a go.
 
First step is to remove the old cups – all I can say is what a twat of a job.  They are pressed in, made of hardened steel and were seized that solid that I resorted to a Dremel, diamond cutter and a lot of patience.  You have to be careful as it’s easy to damage the alloy hub casing.  I weakened the cup by making lots of little cuts then smashed the fook out of it from behind (Oooooer Mrs) till it dropped out. 

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I polished the inside of the hub to make fitting the bearings easier.  The marks you can see that look like cracks are not.  They are where the original hardened cups had worn into the softer alloy.

(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae142/brettfellows/DSC01154_zpsecd96c40.jpg) (http://s966.photobucket.com/user/brettfellows/media/DSC01154_zpsecd96c40.jpg.html)

Next step was to measure and order the bearings – 3/8 x 1” 1/8 x 3/8 - £5.00 each

 http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/Bearings-Cycle+Bearings/c3_5227/p20000278/ENDURO+16142RS+Rubber+Sealed+Deep+Groove+Ball+Bearing+3/8x1-1/8x3/8+inch/product_info.html

Brummie Dave sorted me out with a Peregrine axle kit.  Turns out I couldn’t use it as the axle itself is 3/8, but the collars for the bearings are 10mm and my bearing measured 9.53 i/d.  I improvised and cut a 68.5mm length of 10mm tube to act as a spacer much like a modern BB.  (Needs to be fairly accurate as it will not lock against the bearing inner race otherwise and will flap around doing bugger all)

I threw the bearings in the freezer for a couple of days and propped the hub against the radiator and they pressed in without too much mither.  Non drive side was a bit tighter, but nothing a few decent tickles with a mallet didn’t sort out.

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All that was left was to assemble them using the hardware from the Peregrine axle kit and a random ebay axle that I had knocking about, check they spin properly, fit the freewheel and get them on the bike. 

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Job done.  Wine now being drunk.
Bert
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Andy1970 on January 17, 2015, 07:25 PM
Great stuff.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: dp and chopper dude on January 17, 2015, 08:48 PM
Top skills  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: oldschoolace on January 17, 2015, 09:08 PM
Ace job there Bert, can't beat a bit of home engineering  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Bfellows on January 17, 2015, 09:10 PM
Ace job there Bert, can't beat a bit of home engineering  :4_17_5:

I enjoy the tinkering side of things more than building bikes lego fashion out of a load of pretty bits.......  I'm done with building carpet tarts, i'd rather resurrect a wreck ;)
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: oldschoolace on January 17, 2015, 09:14 PM
Music to my ears that Bert, has always been my thinking too  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: rodriguez on January 17, 2015, 09:24 PM
Nice one Bert   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Gary72 on January 17, 2015, 09:31 PM
Top tinkering :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: griff on January 17, 2015, 10:52 PM
Great stuff Bert  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: pickle on January 17, 2015, 11:23 PM
 Top work there fella  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: bodamus on January 18, 2015, 12:00 AM
Great job Bert I couldn't do it :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: bobbbbsy on January 18, 2015, 12:04 AM
im with you bert . the more dirty n f'd up the better. i cant imagine buying a mint complete . wtf would you do with it ?  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: mattbloke on January 22, 2015, 12:00 PM
im with you bert . the more dirty n f'd up the better. i cant imagine buying a mint complete . wtf would you do with it ?  :LolLolLolLol:

ride it, FcUk it and dirty it :D
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: oldschoolace on January 22, 2015, 12:06 PM
Don't think it would do any harm if this was a sticky  ;)
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Chilli Rinse on May 17, 2023, 09:06 PM
Glad I found this. Might be giving this a go  fistblump
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Mikku on May 17, 2023, 11:29 PM
You've got the same problem then? In any case, that was a good read and well worth a thread bump! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Chilli Rinse on May 18, 2023, 10:11 AM
You've got the same problem then? In any case, that was a good read and well worth a thread bump! :daumenhoch:

I will know for sure when I have the mags in my hands, I am expecting this to be the case though. This seems to be a nice little upgrade if you are going to do a rebuild anyway.

I will update you with the plan soon  fistblump
Title: Re: OGK mag sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Chilli Rinse on October 04, 2023, 07:32 PM
I didn't need to go through with the upgrade. The races and cones were very clean, I had some new bearings of the same size laying around so I popped them in for good measure. A lot less work and they are spinning sweet now. I just need to sort the spacing out when the time comes to fit them. They look like shit but run like a dream, just what I wanted.

I have bookmarked this thread for future reference, if the need arises.
 fistblump
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