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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: Stillriding on September 24, 2013, 12:06 AM
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Ok I'm going to upset loads of people here BUT! Thinking back to the late '80's I'm sure most of the big brand bikes dated '87 '88 where really '86 bikes with different colour ways. I know this is not the thinking on here but I was thinking that the bikes and tech really didn't change till '89 when bashguard bikes etc came in. While at MK13 I noticed that the show 'n' shine Mid-Skool freestyle category ,the bikes that won ( both beautiful bikes btw) where both '87 ~'88 which as I see it are old-Skool. My thinking is that Mid-Skool started from '89 onwards????
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Seconds out, round 864 :popcorn:
Ding ding
Lugs, pretty sure it's got something to do with lugs
Or headsets
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It started when the High-Top Fade hairstyle came in, and ended when the All Saints split up. So yeah - 1987 - 2001.
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Seconds out, round 864 :popcorn:
Ding ding
Lugs, pretty sure it's got something to do with lugs
Or headsets
Yes lugs then headsets ( more towards '95~'96 headset wise) :daumenhoch:
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thing is lugs did appear in 87 but then disappeared again
none of the bashguard bikes had em for obvious reasons
most of the major mid school companies either werent around or their frames which were pre 1990 didnt have em
can anyone tell me what pre 1990 bikes came with lugs apart from the gt's and haros?
lugs didnt really become the standard till 94 with most major 90's bike companies
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dind'nt some late streetbeats have lugs...??
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you could say mid skool started in 86 as everyone gave up then as that when i started riding and all the local kids had quit so i was the only one riding . best days of my life back then
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I'd say 89 as well, I can't see how a 87 master or sport is a mid school bike.....
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:popcorn:
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dind'nt some late streetbeats have lugs...??
87 white and red two tone and the 88 beats all had lugs :daumenhoch:
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I'd say 89 as well, I can't see how a 87 master or sport is a mid school bike.....
Yes olly that's my thinking ..... '89 onwards should mid~Skool !!!
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Hard to define into exact years as far as I can see, the 1990's gave or take a couple of years either side is probably as close as you can get, so late 1980's to early 2000's.
I see mid school as a transitional period between old school and new school when old school died and new school was yet to come.
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As Griffums said, 'round 864'.
Thread's been done to death in other parts of the forum. Can't please everyone all the time.
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Yeah, done to death this One really......I will say nothing felt very mid school to Me in the late 80's though, even with 990's & bashguards coming in :LolLolLolLol:
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Good job stidds is on his hols :10_2_12:
Lol we had a few discussion already on here and Facebook about this.
I go off 1990 myself but that's just me :slayer:
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Agree with Dave ... 1990 is best ... 89 at a push :daumenhoch:
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I think the start should be 89, the bashy era. :daumenhoch:
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Started when moon bags were essential riding gear, and ended when Lopes and King clipped in. :daumenhoch:
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This topic may be done to death but while people have to keep posting 87 Haro's in MID SCHOOL then its going to keep rearing its uuuuggglly head
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I think that midschool is from 1990 :angel:
;D :daumenhoch:
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I'm not even sure the advent of Bashguards signaled midschool.
Early 90's, bikes started getting thicker dropouts & geometry was changing which meant no more would the rear triangle be nearly as long as the front! The engineering took a big leap forwards & stuff that was fit for purpose was being made.
Then there was the revelation that was the threadless headset/clamp on stem......
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Suppose it was a transitional period over a number of years.... My 92 Robbo is 1 inch quill stem and caliper brakes.
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Sounds arsey, but I don't give a t0ss what year MS started anymore - there's bikes from 1988 in the OS section and I'll put me own Mad Dog from 1988 in this section. Peeps can put their bikes from pre 1990 or whatever in the OS section or in here - whatever makes em happy.
I used to give a hoot about the years, but the debates starting to feel like one of them morning after the night before poos - it just keeps on coming back, and no matter how often you wipe the buggers still there.
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I blame the flippers! :bellend:
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I think that midschool is from 1990 :angel:
;D :daumenhoch:
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Its all tat anyway, it needs to be pre 84 to qualify as rare or worth pulling out the skip at least. :daumenhoch: :LolLolLolLol:
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I think that midschool is from 1990 :angel:
;D :daumenhoch:
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I think its time we listen to the people interested in mid school and sort the dates out :daumenhoch:
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Although I wub you Ed - WHO CARES. I'd rather peeps started turning the mid section back into Rads lively ugly little brother again instead of the tumble-weed section it's turned into. AND when did the mid section start to get filled with shiney-shiney bikes.......
We've lost a shat load of people who posted in ere since the crash, all I've gotta look at now are people winding other people up in bmx chat.
Love snookums x
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I'm still at work when I wanted to go riding and happy to inflict my mood on anyone...
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... all I've gotta look at now are people winding other people up...
lets ban Olly :daumenhoch:
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I'm still at work when I wanted to go riding and happy to inflict my mood on anyone...
Same ;D
lets ban Olly :daumenhoch:
X2 (only joking Ollster)
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Although I wub you Ed - WHO CARES. I'd rather peeps started turning the mid section back into Rads lively ugly little brother again instead of the tumble-weed section it's turned into. AND when did the mid section start to get filled with shiney-shiney bikes.......
We've lost a shat load of people who posted in ere since the crash, all I've gotta look at now are people winding other people up in bmx chat.
Love snookums x
I can't really come in here now my WTP Osato is 2003 making it New School, it was Mid School when I bought it :(
It's coming in here when I build it though >:D
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Although I wub you Ed - WHO CARES. I'd rather peeps started turning the mid section back into Rads lively ugly little brother again instead of the tumble-weed section it's turned into. AND when did the mid section start to get filled with shiney-shiney bikes.......
We've lost a shat load of people who posted in ere since the crash, all I've gotta look at now are people winding other people up in bmx chat.
Love snookums x
New day ... totally agree ... I don't care.
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Although I wub you Ed - WHO CARES. I'd rather peeps started turning the mid section back into Rads lively ugly little brother again instead of the tumble-weed section it's turned into. AND when did the mid section start to get filled with shiney-shiney bikes.......
We've lost a shat load of people who posted in ere since the crash, all I've gotta look at now are people winding other people up in bmx chat.
Love snookums x
New day ... totally agree ... I don't care.
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It smells of Man love in here...
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It smells of Man love in here...
Na - that's just my yeast infection :daumenhoch:
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Although I wub you Ed - WHO CARES. I'd rather peeps started turning the mid section back into Rads lively ugly little brother again instead of the tumble-weed section it's turned into. AND when did the mid section start to get filled with shiney-shiney bikes.......
We've lost a shat load of people who posted in ere since the crash, all I've gotta look at now are people winding other people up in bmx chat.
Love snookums x
dont ban olly, it takes away the fun!! i do like to try and wind him up but the fat bastard never really bites!! (unless its cake!)
the mid has been dead since the crash, plus ive not been really building anything mid or bmx for that matter so havent really frequented the mid section much :( :(
the captain as disappeared, bmxbert seems to be no more, even alex and dan harris dont seem to frequent as much anymore
think the crash helped people realise there is more to life than rad :LolLolLolLol:
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I sometimes forget that people frequent different sections on Rad
I tend to just click on the unread posts button until it tells me to go to bed
You never know what you might find :D
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It smells of Man love in here...
Na - that's just my yeast infection :daumenhoch:
Ah sorry, the Two are easily mixed up :LolLolLolLol: try smearing yoghurt on the affected area :daumenhoch:
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If Rod's right about the transitional charakter of the terms, the question arises: Is there an end of new school?
If the answer is 'no', then the current length of each bmx-period would be 13.667 years*, making the 2nd half of 1985 the beginning of mid school (1985,6666666666666666666666666667), and 1999 the beginning of new school (1999,3333333333333333333333333337).
*= if you chose 1972 as the starting date of bmx: "The 1972 motorcycle racing documentary "On Any Sunday" is generally credited with inspiring the movement nationally in the US; its opening scene shows kids riding their Schwinn Stingrays off-road." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMX_bike#History)
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...which adds weight to the 'not caring' argument :daumenhoch:
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...which adds weight to the 'not caring' argument :daumenhoch:
Indeed :daumenhoch:
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I always thought 'Mid school' was more of an 'attitude' that just evolved over a number of years. I understand the need to have a date for show categories though.
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i think more people are posting up on facebook now since the crash.
alex was saying the other day on there he couldnt reg back on after the site went down so didnt bother again.
weve lost a lot to facebook even with the old school rad section.
i must admit i post on there more myself now as its dead on here :(.
it was loads better when the sections were all lumped in together instead of this frames/parts/flicks bollox :-\
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I'm fecked then as I don't use facebook etc. Hopefully things will pick up a bit over the colder months, I've still got the love for Mid but all Mine are either in bits or being sold off. Agree with Dordy about Mid being One section though :daumenhoch:
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Mid school shouldn't be about restoration rebuilds, it should be about the stories!!
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I agree with Dordy also about the sections doesn't work for Mid :(
Please put it back the way it was :daumenhoch:
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Mid school shouldn't be about restoration rebuilds, it should be about the stories!!
Good point Chris, I'm only going to resurrect My old rides I still have, the rest are going. Saying that though I think I have One of Your old Standard frames in My garage!
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250s from woody with 14mm milled axles with a dink in it where the mill slipped out? Gun metal grey? A beauty!!
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250s from woody with 14mm milled axles with a dink in it where the mill slipped out? Gun metal grey? A beauty!!
That's the One :daumenhoch:
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Chris is absolutely right - mid school should be about the experience (however i wasn't taking the piss ;))
So it should be about bmx in the 90s .......http://bmxrestoration.co.uk/midschool/index.htm
with new categories emerging from ns, like 2000s, ... the beat goes on
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250s from woody with 14mm milled axles with a dink in it where the mill slipped out? Gun metal grey? A beauty!!
That's the One :daumenhoch:
Say hi to it from me!!
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This is my opinion Brothers.
It depends on the Make of bike, ie:
I consider all s&m's and Standards etc.. Mid-School onwards because the construction and geometry used.
Haro's etc..upto '97 were Old-School because the construction and geometry was just way behind anything that sort to progress these areas of bmx manufacter.
Haro Bashguards no matter what year are Old-School.
S&M Dirtbikes no matter what year are Mid-School.
Categories the Faith. L
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I see where you're coming from Mr L
I thought the other stuff that signaled the end of mid and the start of new school were the move away from american bb, introduction of micro gearing, getting the bikes lighter and stronger instead of heavier and stronger.
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Haro Bashguards no matter what year are Old-School.
can I have some of what you are smoking kidda.
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I say if you can put skyways on it its old school.
When everything went 48 spoke ONLY mid.
And yes I know 48`s were on some old school late stuff but tuff . "PARDON THE PUN"
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I like the cut of your jib, but for fooks sake don't bump this thread anymore...please?. Mid schools Mid school, Old Schools Old School, and that 70's bike thing's that 70's bike thing. Doesn't matter when any of em started and ended - all it means depending on what era you build is you're either:
Really really old.
Really old.
Or just old.
Or confused.
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:popcorn:
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Nearly forgot:
Or young and really don't give a fook about schools.
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To me, if I like a bike, I buy it, ride it and if it turns out crap to ride, I flog and get something else.
I gave up BMX in late '86 - early '87 for my RM125, Sex, Drugs and Booze. Nothing much BMX happened from then :LolLolLolLol:
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I say if you can put skyways on it its old school.
what about this then :LolLolLolLol:.