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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: hunterdubber on December 30, 2012, 09:49 PM
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It wasn't until I saw one of these framesets in the flesh that I realised their class and would one day have to have one :angel:
From looking in mags when I was a kid and then getting into O/S I completed most of the grail bikes I set out to do and more .
But because I wasn't racer back then, the Darrell Young wasn't at the top of my to do list ,
however a good few old mates ,who were racers held these at the very top of the must have bikes :4_17_5:
Since seeing them up close and studying their detail , I realised how fantastic they really are .
Influences from Hutch , GT, T/A, Quad, Bottema :smitten:
The oversized downtube :coolsmiley: the straight through top tube (with JMC sheild stamping) :coolsmiley: :coolsmiley:
Cranked widening seat stays down to great sweeping looptail with big dropouts :smitten:
and to top it all this set up came with an AWESOME upgrade a pair of rarer Andy Patterson Forks :shocked:
Tear drop tubing :smitten: straight through Bottema-esque with a bologna slash cut like LG;s
This frameset takes the best bits off other beautiful framesets and brings them altogether :4_17_5:
This is the first incarnation of this build and I will ventually re post a revised build later in the year
Darryl Young and Andy Patterson actually rode with a 1st gen DK pro XL stem and I have one on it's way from the States
Not sure whether to fit this with a set of NOS MKS GrafightX I have to go with the Graphite Tuffs
Not sure whether to go Candy red frame and re chrome the AP forks or chrome frame :-\
Black 2nd gen frame pads too :)
but here it is current spec :)
1985 JMC Darryl Young frame
1985 JMC Andy patterson forks
JMC Darryl Young bars
NOS Bubble font A'me round grips
Original Hutch Deep H stem ( to be replaced with 2nd gen stamped square edged DK Pro XL stem)
Original JMC 2nd gen padset
1984 Skyway Graphite 3rd gen Tuff wheels
1984 NOS Michelin/IRC Competition 1.75 tyres
NOS Bullseye 2 piece cranks and spider with NOS Sugino 44T
Original Brown bearing Hutch beartrap pedals
NOS Shotgun 1 seat How often do you see these
Dia compe MX 900 with DC MX123 lever and 1985 stamped DC cable
Gold and black ESH Izumi track chain
Tange 320 headset
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0065_zpsfcbe7d67.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0062_zps5211a7b8.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0058_zpsa01c99f5.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0071_zps10c13378.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0055_zps3d66e8be.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0053_zpsbea885e2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0052_zpsdc108225.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0047_zps393cb52f.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0045_zps29556535.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0044_zps63dfd7e6.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0038_zps45146352.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0039_zps0c102453.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0040_zpsafe18db2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0041_zps9fdb8675.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0042_zps1b71840e.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/DSCN0043_zpsb061786e.jpg)
Thanks to J.T, Bodamus ,J.T Smooth ,Deeman ,Rooski,Diggler,Tobias,Neil Clark ,Spartacus,Spencer,Johann
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Stunning!
Without a doubt......
8)
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Awesome, I really like the colour it is now
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Christian that is one sweet build.
Those forks are just sex, the most awesome forks ever, nicer than Bottema even. Just fabulous. The Frame and large JMC DY bars are brilliant. Good to see some different tyres as well.
If you were going to change it I was to vote for Candy Red and Chrome forks and would like to see what it looks like on spokes too.
Fookin Lovely.
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That's a fast looking ride ^"^
and yes they are one of the best looking forks made for sure :smitten:
(candy blue would be nice :-X)
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That's real nice. :smitten:
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That is stunning :smitten: 8)
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As always with your builds Chris they are TOP NOTCH and this is no exception. Class all the way buddy :4_17_5:
Is that a standard colour ? it looks fantastic :)
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Beautiful Christian, simply stunning
Stinks of class.....
Have you thought about running a browning two speed? Only reason I ask is that I see a few being built with the browning lately.....
B
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You've gotta love JMC, that looks great but spokes would improve it IMHO. :daumenhoch:
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Beautiful Christian, simply stunning
Stinks of class.....
Have you thought about running a browning two speed? Only reason I ask is that I see a few being built with the browning lately.....
B
Yeah Darryl Young used to run a Browning set up :coolsmiley:
Seen here two speed chainring and rear shifter :smitten:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ee70/umagumadog/OS%20BMX/DY.jpg)
I have actually had the pleasure of riding a Browning on a Maximum Pro belonging to Andy Bigplinky , it was dialled and rode amazing :4_17_5:
Originally I was going to go more DY style at first with the spokes , but because of the AP twist went for graphite Tuffs , I here you MattSky but I think it looks good a little different than the crowd this time round .
Who knows , by the time I've re done it I may change for Sherrif record C's on 7L's ( the hubs were produced 1985 to 1991 which means they'd just about go on this build era correct )
If I get that set up it'll be the best of both worlds :daumenhoch:
Thanks for the kind words Radlads :-*
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I had most of the bits before I even thought I was getting the frameset
but I saw another with the same cranks and in Candy red and rolling on Graphs :smitten:
That sealed it for me
(http://bmxmuseum.com/image/koody1_blowup.jpg)
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Very nice indeed Chris... :daumenhoch:
I like the decision to use Tuffs due to the AP forks.
Dont think Ive seen those seats before! :shocked: 8)
:4_17_5:
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i know there rare and lovely cranks..............but i dont like em on this for some reason.
the rest of its 8).
i like the silver. makes a change :daumenhoch:
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That looks spot on Chris.. :daumenhoch:
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stunning christian :smitten:
cracking build
It wasn't until I saw one of these framesets in the flesh that I realised their class and would one day have to have one :angel:
FROM LOOKING IN MAGS WHEN I WAS A KID
what type of mags??
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Thanks for the comments :4_17_5:
No worries Davey man :daumenhoch: , again everything on the bike is race orientated ( hence the graphs , Skyway race team spec )
The Bullseyes are on instead of flights or profiles ,I love em and not seen on every other build
,but actually Darryl Young himself rode a one piece Takagi on alot of early pics :) , JJ Baldbmxer built his lovely DY op with a one piece 8)
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i was gonna say a opc would look the bolloxs on it but thought you'd laugh ;D
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As always with your builds Chris they are TOP NOTCH and this is no exception. Class all the way buddy :4_17_5:
Is that a standard colour ? it looks fantastic :)
Thanks Ash
It's a cool colour and the finish is amazing , but it's not standard and that;s why I have no issues about changing it to Candy Red to keep it standard :4_17_5: :angel:
Sometimes it can be good to have a slightly custom twist or a deviation from the norm , but expect a little criticism
I dare n't do owt custom or daring :crazy2: :-[ :LolLolLolLol: but admire those who do , do it well ,,and pull it off :-* :D
They produced the Darryl Young in Chrome ,Candy red or white only
They made the Andy patterson in Chrome or white only
Steve 69 mentioned re doing it in Candy Blue :)
Mattskybeat did a Candy blue one it was lovely but not standard :smitten:
(http://jmcbmx.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/dec84.jpg?w=600&h=703)
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Not had it 5 minutes and you fooked it up. Fookin Tuppafookinbastardware wheels, with 27.7 carat gold hubs :wtf:
Last time I let your schlomo loose in the inner sanctum :yahoo_silent:
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Not had it 5 minutes and you fooked it up. Fookin Tuppafookinbastardware wheels, with 27.7 carat gold hubs :wtf:
Last time I let your schlomo loose in the inner sanctum :yahoo_silent:
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Suck my balls Kanye :tickedoff:
Tupperware :4_17_5:
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Lick my gooch goldstein.
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Without doubt a stunning bike but +1 to running spokes if only from an aesthetic point of view :smitten:
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i was gonna say a opc would look the bolloxs on it but thought you'd laugh ;D
Nah Dave you can build any O/S BMX in the world with a one piece and it looks right :4_17_5:
Cheap :crazy2: , but right :LolLolLolLol:
:daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Here's the man with OPC and style :coolsmiley:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/l_zpsbe75808f.jpg)
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What year did 6 spoke skyways come out ? They would look mint
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Without doubt a stunning bike but +1 to running spokes if only from an aesthetic point of view :smitten:
Chris
Don't listen to Diggler he'll only come round to your house and show you his appreciation of joining his Tuff hating cult >:D
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/q204/jonathonsturner/E5995E21-FC6B-460E-97D9-94B7E80BBAD5-840-000000914B43B54C.jpg)
if it was up to him all the bikes on here would be spinning Nigga discs :shocked: :idiot2:
(http://s7.faceinhole.com/12/12/21/455fd7dcc15103b240.jpg)
Besides ::)
There's far more Tuff lovers than haters
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/dordymush/PIC_0621-1.jpg)
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What year did 6 spoke skyways come out ? They would look mint
::) nice one Fotchy ;)
1984 3rd gen sealed bearing Graphite Tuffs = As used by Andy Patterson for racing =
Double Superclass European Champion ,1982 Jag BMX "A" Pro World Champion (ABA sanctioned) ,1982 Anglo/American Challenge Cup Champion
All raced and won on Skyway Graphite Tuffs :4_17_5:
1986 6 spoke Tuffs = Freestyle :crazy2:
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Where's he about to stick that finger? :D
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Where's he about to stick that finger? :D
Long fingernail for extra sensation :-X :-*
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Where's he about to stick that finger? :D
Long fingernail for extra sensation :-X :-*
Nowt wrong with some blood lube :)
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Wow awsum (http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/cool/cool-6.gif)
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Very nice Chris :daumenhoch:
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glad you mentioned you was going to have it all re-finished in a colour chris.... ??? ???
its begging for a nice colour like a metallic/pearl red or blue, make sure you dont have it done in a candy colour (non metallic quality street toffee wrapper colour) they were never like that back in the day and wont be keeping true to its original finish... ;)
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Very nice :daumenhoch:
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Stunning :4_17_5:
Red frame with chrome forks for me 8)
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very very nice Christian,a touch of class :4_17_5:
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Interesting take on it.
Suprised it appeared so soon.
Get it chromed.
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Boom!!!!!!!!!! Stunning build fella................ :4_17_5: :smitten:
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glad you mentioned you was going to have it all re-finished in a colour chris.... ??? ???
its begging for a nice colour like a metallic/pearl red or blue, make sure you dont have it done in a candy colour (non metallic quality street toffee wrapper colour) they were never like that back in the day and wont be keeping true to its original finish... ;)
Sam these are the restored reds on the JMC site
may look a little brighter because of the US sunshine but doesn't look clear see through , but is Candy apple .
I remember Candy red bikes back then were deep ,,,but not translucent
(http://jmcbmx.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/part1final.jpg?w=460)
Jon Western "The " JMC collector ,,,,,with the most comprehensive collection in the world ,,,has Tuffs on his JMC
If he says it right ,,,, :daumenhoch:
But I'm still going to have a nice set of spokes aswell later in the year :smitten:
(http://jmcbmx.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/theroom.jpg?w=600&h=484)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v661/JON016847/APB.jpg)
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:4_17_5: top banana as said its nice in that sort of seal gray but with chrome forks and the frame painted it will be mega, probably the only frame and forks i'd buy now really is a jmc dy or ap and you've got a hybrid of both :smitten:, really nice that and i like the tuffs on it (sorry diggler) , when you post a bike up you know its going to be a good un and you haven't disappointed, you are my no.1 guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L0ag9Sll6RI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L0ag9Sll6RI) :LolLolLolLol:
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lovely looking build christian,but i would go with spoked wheels ;)
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lovely bike mate :smitten: candy red is the one :daumenhoch:
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UNBELIEVABLE :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Christian, that, my friend is Fookin STUNNING, I love it.
It looks great with Graphites but would look equally cool with spokes. I'm going for 7Xs laced to Sheriff Stars on my AP when I get some AP bars.
I too think that Candy Red frame with chrome forks and bars would be the finest combination too. I always look forward to your builds, they are always thoroughly well researched, top quality and the end result is jaw dropping every time. This , however has to be my favourite. I love the black Bullseye cranks on it too, they stand out superbly and as has already been said, a nice different touch with the tyres. I'd keep the Hutch pedals on it as in my opinion, the plastic peds would cheapen the overall look which cannot happen on a bike of this calibre.
Once again Christian, AWESOME WORK Christian. :daumenhoch:
Adam
PS: I have a JMC AP frameset in flawless chrome but for what I have in mind I am going to strip the chrome and re powder it white. If it would help you out and your forks are stucturley sound I am more than happy to do a straight trade on the forks and I'll get yours powdered instead. :daumenhoch:
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They are sound, and that's a good idea!
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the red with chrome forks does it for me !!kinda makes me want to pull my finger out and get mine repaired/sorted. Phil.....HELP!!
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Humdinger Christian as are all your builds mate :4_17_5: :4_17_5: :4_17_5: If you're changing colours then the candy red would be spot on as they look well nice in that colour.
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Lovin the bike Chris :daumenhoch:
I like the bits you have on there,especially the tyres,tuffs and Shotgun mk1 seat :smitten:
The DK xl will be a nice change,,they are great stems :smitten:
Candy red and chrome forks is the way forward :smitten:
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Thanks both Andys :D
Like I said I got some of the bits before the frame just because I've always liked em , seat and cranks ( thanks to Ian ) and they seem to go together well .on this
Almost a little like your " I built a bike from spare parts I had " thread , Andy :D
Fatal having a few spare bits ,you end up building something to use em on :crazy2: :LolLolLolLol:
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Nice that Dubber :coolsmiley:
red frame , chrome forks and a nice set of spokes with some bling hubs imo .... if you do change :D
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If you want it finished properly make sure you get it powderocated like the ones in the pics :daumenhoch:
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I love these in red, jj's blew me away. I saw the frame when he'd just got it back at fearnville. The next time I saw it built at mk and the bike made stop for some time, just to soak it in.
You've already done your homework mate.
If you build it in a guise of how one of these was raced then you have to have got it right.
When I see a build I always like to know stuff like, "why has he done that" or "why did he choose that part"
When you get these sort of things presented it gives you a bit more appreciation/ enjoyment of what your taking in.
What ever you do with it I know you'll do justice because you don't know any different.
I can't wait. :daumenhoch:
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Very nice wee' maan. Those tyres are fukugly though! Sorry
Remember these....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c51/baldbmxer/DSC02781.jpg)
and
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c51/baldbmxer/JMC%20DY/COMPLETE13.jpg)
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Aye , I do remember them both , BFG ,,,love them just as they are :daumenhoch: :smitten:
I'm glad you approve :angel:
Having one with graphs and one on Ukais yourself :coolsmiley:
:LolLolLolLol: the fugly tyres are race and of era . Comp II style block :angel:
http://martin-bike.com/BikeBuilder/Tires/slides/4bc7_1.html
could've easily put blue/silver label Comp III's on 7X , 401's and a Kashi Aero , but thought best not after all .variety is the spice of life :LolLolLolLol:
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cant believe I missed this...just awesome, thats all I have to offer..just awesome :4_17_5:
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Wow. Now that is a nice build Christian. :daumenhoch: :smitten: :smitten: :4_17_5:
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Aye , I do remember them both , BFG ,,,love them just as they are :daumenhoch: :smitten:
I'm glad you approve :angel:
Having one with graphs and one on Ukais yourself :coolsmiley:
:LolLolLolLol: the fugly tyres are race and of era . Comp II style block :angel:
http://martin-bike.com/BikeBuilder/Tires/slides/4bc7_1.html
could've easily put blue/silver label Comp III's on 7X , 401's and a Kashi Aero , but thought best not after all .variety is the spice of life :LolLolLolLol:
I, for one, fookin LOVE the tyres :smitten:
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That is lovely in all ways Christian. Top class build buddy. :4_17_5:
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I can't remember the exact number but there were 6 or 7 factory candy blue DY's made. Jim Melton still has all the info in his little black book. And I also heard that Darrell had one of these as a practice (?) bike. When a collector bought this bike in the early 2000's he assumed it had been repainted a non-standard factory so painted it red, only to later hear from Jim that blue was it's original colour. Oh dear! An OG finish blue DY is the rarest production variant.
JMC's rule. They look just so right.
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Wow you're right factory rider limited finish only :shocked: ;)
Andy Patterson sat on you guessed it :coolsmiley:
(http://jmcbmx.com/online/templatemedia/all_lang/resources/_wsb_397x500_1985+Chili_0001_Layer+2.jpg)
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Love it Chris.
Always was and still is one of my favourite bikes. It looks great as it is, but a spoke option would be nice. Originality aside, candy apple frame and anodised blue rims always look good, or vice versa.
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Wow you're right factory rider limited finish only :shocked: ;)
Andy Patterson sat on you guessed it :coolsmiley:
(http://jmcbmx.com/online/templatemedia/all_lang/resources/_wsb_397x500_1985+Chili_0001_Layer+2.jpg)
Oh yeah! That would be ACE!
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I can't remember the exact number but there were 6 or 7 factory candy blue DY's made. Jim Melton still has all the info in his little black book. And I also heard that Darrell had one of these as a practice (?) bike. When a collector bought this bike in the early 2000's he assumed it had been repainted a non-standard factory so painted it red, only to later hear from Jim that blue was it's original colour. Oh dear! An OG finish blue DY is the rarest production variant.
JMC's rule. They look just so right.
Might be worth contacting Jim to see what the OG finish was,then get it repainted in the OG colour ???
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gotta love a jmc :4_17_5:
i'll be honest, i like the early stuff more, but there's no such thing as a shit or ugly jmc.
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Nice one Christian :daumenhoch:
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Hey Christoff,
Well it was worth the price of the kidney :daumenhoch: