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Title: What is ball burnished?
Post by: mivvi on December 14, 2012, 10:12 PM
Hi all, after a bit of info. I am looking to polish an alloy frame and then lacquer it, to keep its shine. I have done this in the past and had a real mirror shine and then i got it clear powder coated.......it lost all its shine. The frame currently has the mirror finish but is now over ten years old and I wish to restore it but just dont know what the correct process is. It really looks like chrome but just dont know how its done? I have heard of ball burnishing or am I barking up the wrong tree? Cheers all  ???   
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: hunterdubber on December 14, 2012, 10:24 PM
Ball burnished is a different thing altogether , it also goes duller in time .

If you want it to stay like chrome , without sounding funny , have you thought of getting it Chromed or chrome powder coated  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: stidds on December 14, 2012, 10:27 PM
If you want a mirror finish to your frame then get a polishing kit, either for an electric drill or bench grinder/polisher this will give you what you want.

Ball burnished is when a piece is placed in a vat of moving ball bearings, which hit the frame repeatedly and this is action is used to polish the piece.


Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: stidds on December 14, 2012, 10:28 PM
Ball burnished is a different thing altogether , it also goes duller in time .

If you want it to stay like chrome , without sounding funny , have you thought of getting it Chromed or chrome powder coated  :daumenhoch:


The problem with getting chrome powdercoat is that you need a clear over the top of the powder which then makes it a very shiney silver.
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: hunterdubber on December 14, 2012, 10:36 PM
I think  he wanted the bike to be like chrome and like a mirror finish , Sean  ???

Like chrome and shiny :-\

He was complaining he'd got it shiny ,,,,but then went duller when it was clear laquered ,,rather than maintaining a permanent shine  :-\


Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: animal on December 14, 2012, 10:37 PM
Having being envolved in Metallurgy its the quickest way of weakening a parent metal that is known  :shocked:

Hence they break , snap and crack  >:( No idea in that factory in my book  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: mivvi on December 14, 2012, 10:39 PM
Thanks all for your replies. Well I never knew you could get alloy chromed? I thought it was only steel that you can chrome, possibly thats what the finish is now then? I didnt know you could get chrome powder either? Well I have a few options now, getting it proper chromed could be the way to go....excited now. Cheers all  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: mivvi on December 14, 2012, 10:42 PM
Having being envolved in Metallurgy its the quickest way of weakening a parent metal that is known  :shocked:

Hence they break , snap and crack  >:( No idea in that factory in my book  :uglystupid2:

Yea, its a mountain bike 24" frame and its very thin alloy as it pings when you flick it. I suppose they are just strong in all the right  places  :-\
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: stidds on December 14, 2012, 10:51 PM
I think  he wanted the bike to be like chrome and like a mirror finish , Sean  ???

Like chrome and shiny :-\

He was complaining he'd got it shiny ,,,,but then went duller when it was clear laquered ,,rather than maintaining a permanent shine  :-\




Sorry Christian wasn't actually having a go there mate, I wrote it on my way to do something else and didn't word it nicely.

I actually didn't know that you need a clear powder to go over the top of chrome powder, it was something SBD told me recently.
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: mivvi on December 14, 2012, 10:53 PM
OrgasmDonor, there is no need!  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on December 14, 2012, 10:54 PM
i'm just at this very moment deleting all traces of that search from wor lasses computer  :daumenhoch: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: mivvi on December 14, 2012, 10:56 PM
This is how it looks now, you can see its the front end that is chrome:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b157/mivvi/Scott24.jpg)
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: bobbbbsy on December 14, 2012, 11:13 PM
it would be reflecting more light if it was chrome, it may be bare lacquered ally or gloss silver !
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: mivvi on December 14, 2012, 11:28 PM
Yep, it has lost it's shine but its quite an old bike now but love it, do its staying with me. I think it may well be lacquered alloy?
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: hunterdubber on December 14, 2012, 11:33 PM
Didn't think you were being funny Sean  :angel:  ;),,, and I learnt something new myself ,,didn't know Chrome powder needed a top coar roo  :)


Daz you need a nice Selle Turbo  , your current one is making a reeeyt nasty mess of your sac  :shocked: :D


Nice Scott MTB Mr Mivvi  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: bobbbbsy on December 14, 2012, 11:36 PM
probably get it light grit blasted so it is bare then polish the hell out of it with PEEK but you ll have to do it every few weeks !
you ll prob need a dremel and special polishing bits.
send bmx a pm. hes the polishing queen(some say he has a sweatshop full of oompa loompa's)!  
i dont like the look of it !  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: bobbbbsy on December 14, 2012, 11:37 PM
Didn't think you were being funny Sean,,, and I learnt something new myself ,,didn't know Chrome powder needed a top coar roo  :)


Daz you need a nice Selle Turbo  , your current one is making a reeet mess of your sac  :shocked: :D


Nice Scott MTB Mr Mivvi  :daumenhoch:

some mid school chrome bikes are lacquered not our o/s !
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on December 14, 2012, 11:42 PM
Didn't think you were being funny Sean,,, and I learnt something new myself ,,didn't know Chrome powder needed a top coar roo  :)


Daz you need a nice Selle Turbo  , your current one is making a reeet mess of your sac  :shocked: :D


Nice Scott MTB Mr Mivvi  :daumenhoch:

thats one unfortunate freudian slip dude  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: bobbbbsy on December 14, 2012, 11:44 PM
i thought hed gone all ɹǝpun uʍop on us !  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: hunterdubber on December 14, 2012, 11:49 PM
Didn't think you were being funny Sean,,, and I learnt something new myself ,,didn't know Chrome powder needed a top coar roo  :)


Daz you need a nice Selle Turbo  , your current one is making a reeet mess of your sac  :shocked: :D


Nice Scott MTB Mr Mivvi  :daumenhoch:

some mid school chrome bikes are lacquered not our o/s !



Who said anything about O/S or mid school  :)

, it's a mountain bike that is already polished and he wants to maintain it's shine by putting a clear coat on or alternative permanent finish ,

 so then he doesn't have to keep polishing it  :)

That's the way I read it ,, I could be wrong  :)

Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: bobbbbsy on December 15, 2012, 12:04 AM
he wants super bling at all costs !!
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: mivvi on December 15, 2012, 07:58 AM
Thanks for all the comments guys. Yea, before I even start stripping this back, I wanted to know is I can achieve the same effect. And yes Bobbbbbbsy, yr spot on. I want it bling and never have to polish it again lol
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: Gal on December 15, 2012, 08:48 AM
There is now a painting process that will make it look exactly like chrome. That or get it wrapped. Thats if anyone is good enough to do it to a bike
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: hunterdubber on December 15, 2012, 08:57 AM
There is now a painting process that will make it look exactly like chrome. That or get it wrapped. Thats if anyone is good enough to do it to a bike

Getting a bike vinyl  wrapped is possible and has been done on here  :daumenhoch:


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o305/virtualmeuk/BOTM/Aero/ssDSCF1185ss.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o305/virtualmeuk/BOTM/Aero/ssDSCF1186.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o305/virtualmeuk/BOTM/Aero/ssDSCF1191.jpg)

Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: griff on December 15, 2012, 09:06 AM
To be honest I'm surprised there aren't more gonads in this thread
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: bobbbbsy on December 15, 2012, 09:55 AM
you just added one griff !  :D
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: bobbbbsy on December 15, 2012, 09:58 AM
i think polishing it will look best. paint and wrap will be costly and not look great ! message super bike dan and see what he can do !
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: brass monkey! on December 15, 2012, 10:01 AM
When i was in London last week i saw a card in a telephone box advertising ball-burnishing....  ;)
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: Gal on December 15, 2012, 10:10 AM
When i was in London last week i saw a card in a telephone box advertising ball-burnishing....  ;)

Did you ring it?
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: bobbbbsy on December 15, 2012, 12:06 PM
wow , all i see cards for prozzies !!  :D
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: CustardLips on December 15, 2012, 03:01 PM
Polish it = £elbow grease
Chrome it = £big bucks

Know which road i'd be going down.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: What is ball burnished?
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on December 16, 2012, 09:05 AM
 ;D quality. 'Aero' reflex. Loving it!!
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