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Title: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful. NEW PICS.....
Post by: adenough on November 25, 2012, 04:22 PM
Right, thought id have a go at home anodising, im really pleased with the resutls considering its my first attempt, but i made a stupid error :LolLolLolLol:  ill let the pics talk:

levers as bought, then stripped,

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1010920.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1010928.jpg)

then the set up equipment,

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1010882.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1010897.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1010907.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1010987.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1010978.jpg)

sulphuric acid and distilled water, lead cathode and ally wire to make the lever the anode,

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020064.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020072.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020080.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020085.jpg)

left in the solution fizzing away for about 3 fags ( 30 mins), then remove and put into a tub of distilled water (from the condeser tumble dryer thing)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020093.jpg)

heated up some dylon mix in the nuke, let cool to about 50 degrees C,

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020097.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020100.jpg)

then placed the lever into the dye for about 20 mins (this is when i realised what id done wrong)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020098.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020099.jpg)

now you have to seal the dye into the alloy by immersing the part into boiling distilled water for about 30 mins,

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020102.jpg)

and hey presto, a loverly anodised tech 3, well nearly!! im personally amazed at the result!! but as you can see, i didnt connect the body of the lever properly.

your thoughts please........................

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020111.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020110.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020104.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020111.jpg)



 :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: threaders on November 25, 2012, 04:27 PM
Looks great for a first effort and haven't seen anyone else try it before :daumenhoch: Set up looks complicated though. What sort of price are we talking for the gear used? ;)
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: oldschoolace on November 25, 2012, 04:29 PM
Cant beat a bit of home brew  :daumenhoch:

Looks good for a first effort and i'm sure it would get better with practice.  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 25, 2012, 04:31 PM
Looks great for a first effort and haven't seen anyone else try it before :daumenhoch: Set up looks complicated though. What sort of price are we talking for the gear used? ;)
not much, more time than anything :daumenhoch:,  power supply, connectors (which i had to needle file to fit) croc clips, tubs etc, probs around £25, then youve gotta get caustic sosa, acid, lead, etc, cant really put a price on it as i scrounged some of the bits  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: HARORIDER on November 25, 2012, 04:40 PM
excellent effort  :daumenhoch: if you had polished the lever first the results would have been even better  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: OrgasmDonor on November 25, 2012, 04:50 PM
excellent effort  :daumenhoch: if you had polished the lever first the results would have been even better  :daumenhoch:

as above, hats off to ya  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 25, 2012, 04:51 PM
excellent effort  :daumenhoch: if you had polished the lever first the results would have been even better  :daumenhoch:
agreed, live n learn  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: SteveG on November 25, 2012, 05:04 PM
I Like this, I can refurb parts but they all end up silver ! Are you going to try some other colours ?
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: bobbbbsy on November 25, 2012, 05:05 PM
cool story bro !
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 25, 2012, 05:07 PM
I Like this, I can refurb parts but they all end up silver ! Are you going to try some other colours ?
ive got a green dye, might try an old chain ring or summat  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: ratty67vw on November 25, 2012, 05:10 PM
cool propper DIY resto work looks good for your first try. look forward to seeing your next diy job  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: AKGOFF on November 25, 2012, 05:38 PM
Not a bad finish at all and if you enjoy that sort of thing then all the better.  :daumenhoch: Personally I'd rather take my bits to the anodisers and let them do what they know best. I got a mini Pro Neck stem striped and re annoed blue and a set of 7x rims annoed red then shinesided all for only £50.



Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: rollin72 on November 25, 2012, 06:12 PM
nice1..why do you use dye? is that all anno is? great 1st effort  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 25, 2012, 06:14 PM
nice1..why do you use dye? is that all anno is? great 1st effort  :daumenhoch:
yep, thats all it is!!
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: dordymush on November 25, 2012, 06:32 PM
its ok paying people to do things for you but you cant beat restoring something yourself  :daumenhoch:.
all you end up doing otherwise is bolting new parts on a frame and i cant really see the fun in that as you can build a bike in 30 mins if you take your time  ;D.

good effort rog  :)
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 25, 2012, 06:39 PM
its ok paying people to do things for you but you cant beat restoring something yourself  :daumenhoch:.
all you end up doing otherwise is bolting new parts on a frame and i cant really see the fun in that as you can build a bike in 30 mins if you take your time  ;D.

good effort rog  :)
:daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: ozone on November 25, 2012, 07:11 PM
its ok paying people to do things for you but you cant beat restoring something yourself  :daumenhoch:.
all you end up doing otherwise is bolting new parts on a frame and i cant really see the fun in that as you can build a bike in 30 mins if you take your time  ;D.

good effort rog  :)

+1  Some hobby this would be if everyone just waved their cheque-book every time something needed doing.  This section would be very quiet for a start.   :uglystupid2:

Looking forward to the next installment when you anodise a polished component.   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: b45t4rd on November 25, 2012, 07:16 PM
Fair play for trying something different, let us know how you get on.  :)
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 25, 2012, 07:28 PM
will do deffo,I've got another tech 3 and my seat clamp plus my stem top  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: animal on November 25, 2012, 07:38 PM
Brilliant work  ;) came out real good  8) As I understand it the more u polish it before , the better shiny finish u get  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: rad_pitt on November 25, 2012, 07:46 PM
Brilliant stuff mate. Looking forward to seeing the next batch  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 26, 2012, 04:15 PM
ANODISING LINKS:   :daumenhoch:


CROCODILE CLIPS
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Car-Multimedia-Shop/Electrical-Terminals-/_i.html?_nkw=CROC&submit=Search&_fsub=3744806014&_sid=997553784

CAUSTIC SODA (SODIUM HYDROXIDE)
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pure-domestic-chemistry?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

SULPHURIC ACID (BATTERY ACID)
http://www.getgeared.co.uk/Battery_Acid

DYLON DYES
http://www.thedyeshop.co.uk/acatalog/info.html

RING CONNECTORS (3.2mm)
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/WHITTLESEY-CAR-CARE/_i.html?_nkw=RING+3.2mm+CONNECTOR+&submit=Search&_sid=285308143

POWER SUPPLY UNIT
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/trekdu/_i.html?_nkw=5A+60W+12V+Regulated+Switching+Power+&submit=Search&_sid=917570576

BI-CARB
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Intralabs/_i.html?_nkw=250g+-+SODIUM+BICARBONATE&submit=Search&_sid=79986929

THERMOMETER
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/digital-save/_i.html?_nkw=NEW+LCD+DIGITAL+FISH+REPTILE+AQUARIUM&submit=Search&_sid=65101659
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: deeman on November 27, 2012, 10:30 AM
Great stuff Roger,it will be interesting to see a polished component done-i reckon it will be spot on.It will also be interesting to see how different colours work.I reckon you could have a queue of people wanting this done!Keep the post updated as you do more! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: Spen69 on November 27, 2012, 10:39 AM
Brilliant Rog. Got a couple of pots of Madonna Blue dylon I can send you along with some stripped & polished parts to try.......  ::)
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: NORTY40 on November 27, 2012, 10:44 AM
Good on you for giving it a go  :daumenhoch: Bit of fine tuning and you'll be in business   :D

its ok paying people to do things for you but you cant beat restoring something yourself  :daumenhoch:.
all you end up doing otherwise is bolting new parts on a frame and i cant really see the fun in that as you can build a bike in 30 mins if you take your time  ;D.

Spot on Dordy  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 27, 2012, 11:26 AM
Brilliant Rog. Got a couple of pots of Madonna Blue dylon I can send you along with some stripped & polished parts to try.......  ::)
:LolLolLolLol: I wouldn't send me your bits, they'de  'get lost in post'  :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 27, 2012, 11:28 AM
Brilliant work  ;) came out real good  8) As I understand it the more u polish it before , the better shiny finish u get  :daumenhoch:
deffo   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: MaD-RoK on November 28, 2012, 11:09 AM
its ok paying people to do things for you but you cant beat restoring something yourself  :daumenhoch:.
all you end up doing otherwise is bolting new parts on a frame and i cant really see the fun in that as you can build a bike in 30 mins if you take your time  ;D.

good effort rog  :)


Steve69 puts Lord Goff of Horleys bikes together..... :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:


Top effort there dude, tempted to get a cookery kit together myself from them links. Top research and good luck with future efforts.  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 28, 2012, 12:26 PM
its ok paying people to do things for you but you cant beat restoring something yourself  :daumenhoch:.
all you end up doing otherwise is bolting new parts on a frame and i cant really see the fun in that as you can build a bike in 30 mins if you take your time  ;D.

good effort rog  :)


Steve69 puts Lord Goff of Horleys bikes together..... :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:


Top effort there dude, tempted to get a cookery kit together myself from them links. Top research and good luck with future efforts.  :4_17_5:
Cheers pal, have a go, id like to see what other colours come out like  :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: Pooch on November 28, 2012, 09:52 PM
Bloody good effort!! I like these threads :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: hunterdubber on November 28, 2012, 10:16 PM
Awesome work Fog  :4_17_5:

Always loved Chemistry at school too  :smitten:


So obviously you'd need a bigger container and more acid to do a set of rims ,
,, but what about the power supply  would that still be capable of supplying sufficient current to still be successful  ?  ???

How much ampage is specified  :)

look forward to seeing further experiments  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 28, 2012, 10:39 PM
Yeah I reckon its between 12-20 volts with a current of up to 8 amps, I've got a nice link I'll post tomoz,im using my phone to type this and its a pain in the aris   :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 28, 2012, 10:42 PM
A good source of power is an old radio ham CB  set  :police:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: MaD-RoK on November 29, 2012, 08:13 AM
Once you have mastered the old school stuff.... http://www.ehow.com/how_10075351_splash-anodizing.html
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 29, 2012, 10:17 AM
Once you have mastered the old school stuff.... http://www.ehow.com/how_10075351_splash-anodizing.html
handy link, theres a few out there, this is the one i used as a rough guide:

http://astro.neutral.org/anodise.shtml
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: adenough on November 29, 2012, 10:20 AM
If any of you have got kids that go to secondary school, get them to swipe a power supply from Physics or Chemistry (they may be able to get hold of some sulphuric acid to) :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: Then expect a knock at the door from a member of   M.ilitary I.ntellegence 6   :police: :police:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: xGoose on November 29, 2012, 10:33 AM
That's cool  :daumenhoch:


Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: hooga1975 on November 29, 2012, 04:42 PM
Brilliant thread.  It is good to see someone trying something for themselves :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: CustardLips on December 04, 2012, 12:08 AM
Nice try.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful......pic heavy...
Post by: ozone on December 05, 2012, 10:28 PM
Crazy Craig has a DK stem, Pro neck Chainring and Hutch pedal cages that need anodising.  I'm sure you wouldn't mind sorting them out for him.   :10_2_12:






























Sorry, couldn't resist.   >:D
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful. NEW PICS.....
Post by: adenough on December 08, 2012, 02:13 PM
Tried again this morning, with a slightly different set up, double the lead & let it cook for 2 hours! out with the needle files, and all i need to do is a bit of polishing of the new anno!!

 :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020300.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020305.jpg)

Somethin i was watchin on ebay while it was bubbling away  :LolLolLolLol:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020306.jpg)

just havin a look.........

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020311.jpg)

in the pan (for about 25 mins)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020312.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020317.jpg)

bit of filing & just needs a polish (when i can find, infact what polish would i use) ?

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020326.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020327.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020330.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020329.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb199/adenough/P1020328.jpg)
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful. NEW PICS.....
Post by: Spen69 on December 08, 2012, 03:43 PM
Get in Rog, that looks the bomb mate :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful. NEW PICS.....
Post by: adenough on December 08, 2012, 06:11 PM
Get in Rog, that looks the bomb mate :coolsmiley:
:daumenhoch: just need to give it a polish
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful. NEW PICS.....
Post by: animal on December 08, 2012, 06:12 PM
Absolutely brilliant work  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Welcome to'FOGS DIY ANODIZING'.......50% successful. NEW PICS.....
Post by: crazycraig on December 08, 2012, 06:16 PM
Crazy Craig has a DK stem, Pro neck Chainring and Hutch pedal cages that need anodising.  I'm sure you wouldn't mind sorting them out for him.   :10_2_12:






























Sorry, couldn't resist.   >:D
:)
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