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New School BMX 2004 - Now => New School Park, Street & Dirt => Topic started by: trickydeno on June 20, 2011, 09:52 PM
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since i've been riding again i've stuck to old school rides up to now.but keep drooling over the new school exotica.i was thinking of a proper ttl or a fly pantera....but like the look of the kis dark frame & stylus forks(even though its not recommended for pegs) anyone ride any of these? any advice or recommendations of frames?
gonna be used mainly for park riding,with a little street use. :daumenhoch:
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I fancied a change a while ago and bought a Subrosa Pandora twin top tube for a bit of an old school look and tricked it up with a really good parts list. I'm really happy with the way it looks but i just can't get used toi riding it, the seat is just too low for my liking, its had a few outings mainly by my Son and sadly i don't think it will ever get used again :'(
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/zz341/akgoff/041.jpg)
Adam
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yeah i remember seeing this ad,nice spec mate.i don't know whether to buy a good used new schooler to check it out first....before i go on a blow out for a top spec custom build.tempted at the mo though,they look the bolox & i would have thought easier to ride :daumenhoch:
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yeah i remember seeing this ad,nice spec mate.i don't know whether to buy a good used new schooler to check it out first....before i go on a blow out for a top spec custom build.tempted at the mo though,they look the bolox & i would have thought easier to ride :daumenhoch:
step it up to mid school Rich... don't turn to the dark side yo ;D
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I fancied a change a while ago and bought a Subrosa Pandora twin top tube for a bit of an old school look and tricked it up with a really good parts list. I'm really happy with the way it looks but i just can't get used toi riding it, the seat is just too low for my liking, its had a few outings mainly by my Son and sadly i don't think it will ever get used again :'(
Adam
Sell it to me then Adam >:D
(sorry for the thread crash Rich........)
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yeah i remember seeing this ad,nice spec mate.i don't know whether to buy a good used new schooler to check it out first....before i go on a blow out for a top spec custom build.tempted at the mo though,they look the bolox & i would have thought easier to ride :daumenhoch:
My advice would be buy a good used one, as some of the more mid range new ones are pretty shite. I picked up my khe from spen and i titally love it, and recently got it on the scales, it checks in at 9.7 kilos
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/227929_10150234111686942_668306941_8418079_3687855_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225951_10150234111321942_668306941_8418066_5859363_n.jpg)
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yeah i remember seeing this ad,nice spec mate.i don't know whether to buy a good used new schooler to check it out first....before i go on a blow out for a top spec custom build.tempted at the mo though,they look the bolox & i would have thought easier to ride :daumenhoch:
step it up to mid school Rich... don't turn to the dark side yo ;D
;D they gotta be smoother & much more solid to ride though ed..........the dark side looms :LolLolLolLol:
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yeah i think your right jaymz :daumenhoch: but the dark side is well worth it then :LolLolLolLol:
just everytime i ride my old redline....i feel like i'm gonna snap it in 2 :) even though it does ride pretty nice.
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the new school is a minefiels with all them crazy names stolen from my mothers slut ;D etc, i have been watching a few on ebay which accordingly cost 1300 etc tobuild going for sort of 3-400 but i have no idea whats good from whats crap
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lots of research is the key. and the dark is very much worth it
I first saw the khe ive got with spens fine ass on it, for me it was instant love [with the khe and not spens furry crack] Just by looking at it I knew i wanted it. I went home and researched like mad, read everything icould on the brand and the model, and it ticked every box i could think, all the erviews were favourable to it, which is rare for a complete, the only bad thing that croppped up time and time again was the KHE tires it wore from the factory, they were super lightweight and ripped/burst/punctured very easily. Since I knew i was going to add an element of old school to it with the amber wall tyres, i went for it.
Most of what ive read about ns completes there is always a downside, but parts are equal money to OS parts if not cheaper sometimes so upgrading is easy.
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S&M everytime for me.... :daumenhoch:
http://sandmbikes.com/
My current ride is built around an ATF frame...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/4-5-11004.jpg)
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nice :daumenhoch: s & m do look top quality....but then most of em do :-\
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Don't worry about it. Keep looking around till you see summat your really fancy, then give Dave at the RadShop a call and ask him what the warranty/returns are like on that particular frame/bike. If he reports no issues then jump in!
If you're coming from old to new, they're all going to feel a bit odd.
What's your budget?
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I went new skool and also the Subrosa Pandorra dtt route. :daumenhoch: The quality of some of these bikes is great. I'm looking at the Mankind Archangel next (possibly) just so I can have my initials in the frame! (mk)
Here's mine;
(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af169/matt111074/BMX/14052011135.jpg)
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2012 united's are in the radshop tomorrow, get a complete then go from there, most new f&f and bar sets are £550 plus now, give dave stodge a shout
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anything from any of the top brands is going to be good. just select the right top tube length and spec to fit your budget.
get along to one of the gatherings that are in the members events section and ask to try peoples bikes, most will willing let you.
It's all about your budget then.
the 2012 bikes are starting to hit the shops now so expect plenty of 2011 model bargains soon. :)
You could get a complete then upgrade bits as you go.
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ive got a khe barbados and its really low slung but rides spot on and is so light compared to my mid-school rides, goes to my nephew as a bday present next week though but im picking up a premium duo on thursday to replace it 8)
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i built a new school bike 6 months ago for my brother who was coming from oz on holiday. got most of it from ebay and only cost about £235. felt rattlesnake frame £35 ebay
inertia street forks £30 winstanleys
odyssey twobolt cranks £55 ebay
the make damn bars (new) £30 ebay
odyssey elementary stem £30 ebay
profile ss front hub+primo rim £25 ebay (bargain)
dia-compe ad 999 (new) £15 ebay
salt pivotal seatpost (new) £15 ebay
i had a back wheel, levers, grips, seat and pedals spare. after my brother left i thought i'd try it out and now prefer it to my fly pantera that i've been riding for the last 4-5 years.
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Just to bring this back on track, the thread title says 'custom new school build'.
Now that means a minimum £1k spend. Or the title is wrong.
With that in mind, it's all about firms you'd like to support and kit that's reliable and strong.
As I've previously said, all new school bikes are going to feel weird to an oldschooler. After all, they are very, very different.... Soooo... it actually doesn't matter what you buy first of all as you have no basis for comparison. My first new bike when I returned to riding was a Condor. Not because they were good or I liked the way they rode, but because I wanted to support Mat in some way.
Remember, you can always change frames, they're only one component of many. Stems and bars can dramatically change the feel of a bike as well.
Now, after saying all that, you could buy a top end complete from a firm you like the look of and then spend a couple of quid tweaking it as time goes by. Would be a cheaper first step, but you're guaranteed not to like everything on that complete.
If you'd like a relatively safe first newschooler, get stodgy to build up his Hoffman B-RAD with new goodies. Never heard a word against those frames. Beautifully built and the geometry seems bang on. Road trip to the shop, spend the day annoying him while he builds it up ;)
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Custom build...get your cheque book out!
I recommended a We The People Versus 2010 to my mate recently and value for money, I think you'd struggle to get much better. You can get them as little as £300, may be even a bit less now, and the black and purple one looks sweet as! Or as TwoBob says, a Hoffman.
Daz :daumenhoch:
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United or Fit.
Like Rob said "it's all about firms you'd like to support", and what better than knowing the person who chose the spec, has been riding BMXs for 30+ years!
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Rob makes a good point about the cost, someone asked what my bike cost a while back, i quickly totted up what I paid, which was way less that RRP for most bits, and it was over a grand.
:shocked:
you might not want to be getting into that sort of money for something you aren't sure about.
Alex probably makes a good point too, but he often kills threads, so I'm trying to ignore him. :LolLolLolLol:
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What, Captain Chainstay? Never.....................
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Oh, and since we are on a "moving from Old School -to- New School" topic, can I remind everyone that you CAN put the seat as high as you like.
Obviously Joe and Rob Know that already ..... I've seen their flag poles!
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You've seen my what?
I told you never to mention that in public.....
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I just like to be able to sit down and pedal...and I like to be able to stop...and I like my shorts to stay up.
Maybe I'm not cut out for new school. lol
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Joe, it's your slight framed-build that gives it away that you're not really a n/s rider buddy - how the bloody hell are you mate ???
Shall we take the pish out of each other on here or save it to MK this year bud - it's been a long time.
Oh, and your advice to Rich (Deano) is spot-on by the way, we were having a bit of a chat about it on tuesday night at Leicester and he's getting a bit too much air for his Redline o/s frameset now, so it's time for him to move to mid or new school for sure :daumenhoch:
Spen
ps - is Kendo dead? Did he survive his 40th?
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If he wants a new cheap but strong as fook frame then he could do worst than one of these
http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/4291/Proper_Houdini_Frame_2004
got the forks for it as well
http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/9463/Proper_Houdini_Forks_2006
£100 for a great f+f set :daumenhoch:
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thats a bloody good deal there, they had 2005/6 fly pantera's a while ago for the same price. ive still got my 05 model and its a nice ride 8)
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sure is! i got a 2005 Fly Diablo off them and it's great! :daumenhoch:
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thanks for all the replies & good advice fella's,much appreciated :daumenhoch: gonna have a good look around for abit.was gonna go for it & sell 1 of my old school to fund a top end build.but think i may go either the complete route or maybe a top end used bike,not sure yet.but your all right to spend big wonga on something i'm not absolutely sure about could end up being a waste....thanks again and when i've got something i'll post it up :daumenhoch:
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This bike is the way forward. And full of chrome for you old shool lot ;)
http://www.crucialbmxshop.com/amity-zenta-2011-bmx-chrome.html
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got myself a new school ride at the weekend :) its a mutiny sinister frame with macneil id forks-s&m slam bars & red neck stem-profile cranks-oddy hazard lite front rim with vandero hub & shadow rear with proper k-7 cassette.i've stripped it & sprayed the frame & forks as they were abit skank,but all the other bits are mint as there quite new.gonna build it at the weekend and get some pics up....dark side & wall rides here we come ;D
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Rich - will it be ready by the 23rd?
This bike is the way forward. And full of chrome for you old shool lot ;)
http://www.crucialbmxshop.com/amity-zenta-2011-bmx-chrome.html
Fook me that looks the mutts >:D :coolsmiley:
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Rich - will it be ready by the 23rd?
This bike is the way forward. And full of chrome for you old shool lot ;)
http://www.crucialbmxshop.com/amity-zenta-2011-bmx-chrome.html
Fook me that looks the mutts >:D :coolsmiley:
yeah it'll be ready spen....can't wait to have a blast on it :daumenhoch:
that amity does look nice
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here it is all fresh from a rattle can spray job.
mutiny sinister frame
macneil id forks
s & m bars & stem
fbm post/clamp federal seat
profile race cranks-shadow 25 chainring & s & m pedals
shadow conspiracy rear rim with proper k7 female cassette hub
oddy hazardlite front rim with oddy vandero hub
primo dirt monsters
fly cnc brake with oddy lever
the frame & forks are 2006.but the wheels & other bits are 2010.
not bad i thought for £280
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/af75/trickydeno/012-3.jpg)
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Looks moody. I like thr green highlights well down, and 280 id a cracking price
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for £280 thats an absolute bargain.
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looks awesome! :daumenhoch:
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Nice job, well done. :daumenhoch:
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You done good, £280 :4_17_5:
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Cool, but what are those peg things for Rich :LolLolLolLol:
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Cool, but what are those peg things for Rich :LolLolLolLol:
Protect the frame from damage when its lent up against the wall outside the pub of course
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Cool, but what are those peg things for Rich :LolLolLolLol:
Protect the frame from damage when its lent up against the wall outside the pub of course
Oh, of course!
Or from damage when it falls over at the Boardroom 'cause we're all stood around gassing like old women :LolLolLolLol:
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Cool, but what are those peg things for Rich :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: dunno spen....just lok cool.i'l find out sat night mate....can't wait :)
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like that - looks 'stealth'
needs a front brake tho ;)
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like that - looks 'stealth'
needs a front brake tho ;)
new schoolers don't do brakes griff.its not cool to have any,so i opted for semi uncool 1 brake ;D
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suppose you'll be letting your waistband hang below your are cheeks next ::)
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:LolLolLolLol: too cool for skool ;D....taking the pegs off....after tonights session it has become clear....i won't be needing em :LolLolLolLol:
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You've gotta a lotta bike , for notta lotta money 8) 8) 8) :daumenhoch:
You done well there Richie ;)
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You've gotta a lotta bike , for notta lotta money 8) 8) 8) :daumenhoch:
You done well there Richie ;)
cheers christian,yeah i thought so to mate.it rides nice aswell,took abit of getting used to at tonights boardroom session,& will take some more to get completely comfortable with it.but on the whole....well pleased with it :daumenhoch:
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Thought you looked great on it last night, real nice bike that :daumenhoch:
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Thought you looked great on it last night, real nice bike that :daumenhoch:
thanks rob :daumenhoch:
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Thought you looked great on it last night, real nice bike that :daumenhoch:
Rich, he's trying to say your ass looked big on it mate but Rob's just too shy :LolLolLolLol:
Looked good mate but needs chain tensioners :shocked:
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Thought you looked great on it last night, real nice bike that :daumenhoch:
Rich, he's trying to say your ass looked big on it mate but Rob's just too shy :LolLolLolLol:
Looked good mate but needs chain tensioners :shocked:
;D spen your a legend! gonna blank the pegs & fit some tensioners mate....see ya at mk mate......for some 4 am proper beered up rampage ridin :LolLolLolLol:
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you don't need tensioners on your new school, just do the nuts up nice and tight and bobs your auntie :daumenhoch:
never had any on mine, it's only those tiny old school thingys that require such primative contraptions ;) :daumenhoch:
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you don't need tensioners on your new school, just do the nuts up nice and tight and bobs your auntie :daumenhoch:
never had any on mine, it's only those tiny old school thingys that require such primative contraptions ;) :daumenhoch:
:daumenhoch: i did think that to be honest rob....i'll leave em :)