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Title: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on May 12, 2006, 12:29 AM

Hi,

I've seen a TA with a K ... serial number without a date stamp

Is this one of the first ones ? or a fake ?  :police:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Tefore on May 12, 2006, 12:35 AM

i think its one of them rewelded jobbies mate

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on May 12, 2006, 12:40 AM

What do you mean by rewelded jobies ?

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Moose on May 12, 2006, 08:50 AM

I though most of the one's welded recently had '86 as the date code? I'm not sure though.

Bob_Acid knows about the K numbered TA's and if I remember rightly, it's thought that these are original.

Is the frame chrome or white? If it's chrome, it's almost definately not one of the ones welded recently.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 12, 2006, 03:51 PM

All TA's are stamped with USA and the date they were made....... apart from the K# ones. I've got a copy of an early test article from BMXA that states the first production TA's were made in Japan because the teardrop tubing wasn't available in America at the time. These i surmise are the K numbered ones. The only difference is the placing of the flex holes at the drop-outs.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Tefore on May 12, 2006, 09:25 PM

Quote from: Bob_Acid on May 12, 2006, 03:51 PM

All TA's are stamped with USA and the date they were made....... apart from the K# ones. I've got a copy of an early test article from BMXA that states the first production TA's were made in Japan because the teardrop tubing wasn't available in America at the time. These i surmise are the K numbered ones. The only difference is the placing of the flex holes at the drop-outs.

see you learn something everyday on the great radbmx.
looks like its a early one then

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: dordymush on May 12, 2006, 09:47 PM

so they were'nt true temper tubing that was used on them then bob ?.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 12, 2006, 11:50 PM

I've tried to make the article big enough to read but it's not happening. It says they turned to japan and found two companys capable of producing them. The Ishiwata Seisakusho Co won it??? remember them :uglystupid2:.

it does state though that they were then shipped to America to be heat treated.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a172/Bob_Acid/TAlife.jpg)

Thx to Mr Coasterbrake for the article

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 13, 2006, 12:07 AM

I have an interest in these frames because i own one. I bought it in 91-2.

A few years ago i asked the yanks what the deal was and nobody had any answers. Bart at Skyway was telling me it was a fake till i showed him the photos. Skyway seem to have no idea the k numbered frames exist from what i can make out.

 Although i no longer have my 84 US made one to take photographic comparisons with it is identical in every way apart from the curved brake bridge and the flex holes which are not right on the drop-outs as with the US one but about 10 or 15 mill up the shafts. In fact i'd go as far as to say the k one was better quality at the welds but it is chrome and my US 84 was white and i think any decent manufacturer used the better ones for chrome and painted the others. Another differance was the black seat tube sticker that has no mention of tru-temper.

About 6 months after i first asked the question it came up again and Mr coasterbrake on vbmx produced the article. I've since come across 5-6 of them on ebay and such.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a172/Bob_Acid/SkywayTA2.jpg)

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: dordymush on May 13, 2006, 01:03 AM

whats the story with the rear brake bridge bob.
why are some straight and others curved.
mine has the curved one.
just wondering.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 13, 2006, 01:12 AM

Bit of a mystery. They seem to have changed to the straight bridge to cut on costs at some time then changed back because they were crap. I'm not sure if the 86 frames had the straight bridge though?

Anyone that has a TA can they give us the date and what bridge it has and we could probably get some answers.

The geeza at work that sold Jay his Torker Master tells me he has USA TA 00003, i'll ask him to bring it in and see.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on May 13, 2006, 01:46 AM

Hi

i tried to read that article but couldnt,can  you just list the text here ?

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: dordymush on May 13, 2006, 10:55 AM

Quote

Anyone that has a TA can they give us the date and what bridge it has and we could probably get some answers.

mines got a curved bridge.


(http://)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v229/dordymush/bmx/100_0342.jpg)

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: rudhallrascal on May 13, 2006, 02:20 PM

Mines got a straight bridge, serial number 0010982 date 4 - 84.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Steve P on May 17, 2006, 06:45 PM

My original TA's got a curved bridge . . . serial # 8-83 0004350

My other one's got a straight bridge . . . serial # 4-84 0009817

Cheers

Steve  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: billstup on May 17, 2006, 07:15 PM

The one that fruities got is a straight brake bridge one  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 17, 2006, 09:20 PM

what about yours Bill? year and bridge?

Anyone have an 85 or 86? or one of the 03 ones?

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: billstup on May 17, 2006, 10:05 PM

Skyway T/A f/f No. 0003134 , curved bridge, think it`s an 83 but I can`t check as it`s not here.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Steve P on May 17, 2006, 10:09 PM

I reckon that'll be an '83 TA then Bill . . . I can see an age pattern here with the brake bridge difference  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: oberonspacefruit on May 17, 2006, 10:16 PM

mine is 84 , straight brake bridge

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Waxintaxin on May 17, 2006, 10:43 PM

84 straight
into bowls,riding my electric scooter,watching coranation st
seeking Female for dinner and dates  possibly more ?
age 21- 90

Rich :)

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: oberonspacefruit on May 17, 2006, 10:51 PM

loves kids, dogs, golden showers, bnwt, walks in the country, messy divorces, have you got what it takes to be the yin to my yang?

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Tefore on May 18, 2006, 07:54 PM

i will check mine later
i have 2x 83 ones
1 x xl will check serials later

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on May 23, 2006, 12:16 AM

So, it looks like

83 TA = Curved brake bridge
84 TA = Straight brake bridge

Is the K numbers 82 then ?

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: dordymush on May 23, 2006, 12:20 AM

i did'nt think they came out till 83.i could be wrong though.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on May 23, 2006, 12:48 AM

Could do with a read of that article that was scanned on here, but i cant read the one on this posting

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 23, 2006, 04:24 PM

The thing that confuses me is i saw an 85 with the curved bridge    :-\

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Steve P on May 23, 2006, 09:14 PM

Quote from: Bob_Acid on May 23, 2006, 04:24 PM

The thing that confuses me is i saw an 85 with the curved bridge

Hmmmmm . . . the mystery continues then  :-\

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Waxintaxin on May 23, 2006, 09:28 PM

I reckon its just a case of what was to hand , i mean if they had no straights then the odd box of curved ones might have been used and vica verca

like the stickers maybe, no exact science

Rich :)

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 23, 2006, 09:36 PM

i think it's more like they had so much trouble with the crush they changed back,  the straight bridge was the cheaper option but they crush. though we don't seem to have many 85/6 to prove the point   :-\

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Tefore on May 23, 2006, 10:07 PM

my 2 ta's (83) both have curved brake
and my xl (84) has straight

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on May 23, 2006, 11:30 PM

Here is a better scan of the TA document

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/f194/adeshere/TA_life.jpg)

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 23, 2006, 11:34 PM

well done Ade ;)

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on May 24, 2006, 12:19 AM

So, from this can we say that all TA's were started off in Japan, then finished off in the States.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 24, 2006, 12:24 AM

No not all, just the first run till tru-temper took over as tube manufacturer. Which is where, i think, the k serial models fit in.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on May 24, 2006, 12:31 AM

I understand now  :LolLolLolLol:

From this subject we got the following

       K    001638
??-83  0003134
08-83  0004350
11-83  0007014

Would be interesting to see what other serial numbers are out there

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 24, 2006, 01:56 AM

ok, i've posted asking for numbers on OS-BMX.com and VBMX lets see what we find out from the rest of the world?

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Tefore on May 24, 2006, 10:25 PM

forgot to put my serials on
5/83  frame no 923
?/83 frame 6870
XL 84 frame 12000

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Steve P on May 24, 2006, 10:26 PM

Quote from: Bob_Acid on May 24, 2006, 01:56 AM

ok, i've posted asking for numbers on OS-BMX.com and VBMX lets see what we find out from the rest of the world?

Great idea . . . will be interesting to see the outcome  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on June 01, 2006, 09:19 PM

tefore

5/83  frame no 923
?/83 frame 6870
XL 84 frame 12000

Are  you sure the 5/83 isn't  0001923  instead of 0000923

the 6870, is probably  10/83  and the 12000 XL is prob 05-84

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: spinmaster on June 02, 2006, 09:50 AM

good thread this one. when i got my TA and saw it had K serial number i thought it was a copy or something. i asked skyway aswell what it meant and bart said the experts at vbmx might know  :LolLolLolLol: :wtf:

anyway here's mine K 002406 with curved brake bridge.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on June 02, 2006, 10:06 PM

Here is the list of serial numbers so far

K       000037
K       001638 curved rear brake
K       002406 curved rear brake

05-83  0000923
05-83  0001184
06-83  0001982
06-83  0002764
??-83  0003134
08-83  0004350
??-83  0006870
11-83  0007014
11-83  0007222  curved rear brake
11-83  0007869
01-84  0007952  curved rear brake
02-84  0009015  straight rear brake
04-84  0009817
05-84  0011091  straight rear brake
??-84  0012000  XL
06-84  0013675
08-84  0014643  straight rear brake
08-84  0013746  Straight rear brake
08-84  0015680  Straight rear brake
10-84  0016244  straight rear brake
       0022071


Looks like Jan/Feb 84 they changed the rear brake bracket.


Anyone else got a skyway TA serial number to add to the list ?

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Bob_Acid on June 02, 2006, 10:14 PM

owww, who has k37? that's got to be a winner....

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: Tefore on June 03, 2006, 10:32 PM

adshere

the 923 frame number is deffo right mate. gmac has it now he will be able to confirm.
i will check the xl tommorow

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: slurp on June 04, 2006, 10:00 PM

mines a straight rear bridge

2-84

8818

cheers :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: defjam on June 06, 2006, 03:03 PM

Hi All,

I have just got a TA off Ebay last week.

I was a bit suspicious as although the SKYWAY USA 3-83 stamp seemed genuine enough, there were only 7 and not 8 digits in the serial number, and the last three, 0000801-, seemed slightly larger than the first four zeros (A RESTAMP ??  :wtf:)

It does have a curved brake bridge.

Should it have 8 digits in the serial number ?

I am trying to get a decent pic to post, but any thoughts from you guys would either put my mind at rest or make me go and check that it isn't a Burner  ;D

Cheers for anything you can come up with,

Rich :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on July 04, 2006, 06:53 PM

UPDATE

Here is the list of serial numbers so far

K       000037
K       001638 curved rear brake
K       002406 curved rear brake
K       002792 curved rear brake

05-83  0000923
05-83  0001184
06-83  0001982
06-83  0002764
??-83  0003134
08-83  0004350
??-83  0006870
11-83  0007014
11-83  0007222  curved rear brake
11-83  0007869
01-84  0007952  curved rear brake
02-84  0009015  straight rear brake
04-84  0009817
05-84  0011091  straight rear brake
??-84  0012000  XL
06-84  0013675
08-84  0014643  straight rear brake
08-84  0013746  Straight rear brake
08-84  0015680  Straight rear brake
10-84  0016244  straight rear brake
       0022071

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: defjam on July 05, 2006, 12:01 AM

Hi You Lot,

If mine says 03-83 0000801 does that mean I have got an early USA made frame? :shocked:

Seeing pics of others :-\ it seems genuine enough. My numbers have been stamped with "Good 'Ol 80's Star Wars" technology by comparison :2funny:.  The chrome and decals appear to be original too. ;D   Forks are ASCO:tickedoff:Are these any good as a brand??

Can I be on the list too please ;D

Thanks

Rich :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: rudhallrascal on July 05, 2006, 12:12 AM

Quote from: defjam on July 05, 2006, 12:01 AM

Hi You Lot,

If mine says 03-83 0000801 does that mean I have got an early USA made frame? :shocked:

Seeing pics of others :-\ it seems genuine enough. My numbers have been stamped with "Good 'Ol 80's Star Wars" technology by comparison :2funny:.  The chrome and decals appear to be original too. ;D   Forks are ASCO:tickedoff:Are these any good as a brand??

Can I be on the list too please ;D

Thanks

Rich :daumenhoch:

Posted my serial no 0010982 4 - 84 straight bridge on page 1

but i never made the list  :'(

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on July 05, 2006, 12:12 PM

Sorry guys .. here you go, you have made it to the list

Here is the list of serial numbers so far

K       000037
K       001638 curved rear brake
K       002406 curved rear brake
K       002792 curved rear brake

03-83  0000801
05-83  0000923
05-83  0001184
06-83  0001982
06-83  0002764
??-83  0003134
08-83  0004350
??-83  0006870
11-83  0007014
11-83  0007222  curved rear brake
11-83  0007869
01-84  0007952  curved rear brake
02-84  0009015  straight rear brake
04-84  0009817
04-84  0010982  straight rear brake
05-84  0011091  straight rear brake
??-84  0012000  XL
06-84  0013675
08-84  0014643  straight rear brake
08-84  0013746  Straight rear brake
08-84  0015680  Straight rear brake
10-84  0016244  straight rear brake
??-??  0022071

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on July 11, 2006, 11:06 AM

Here is the list of serial numbers so far

K       000037
K       001638 curved rear brake
K       002406 curved rear brake
K       002792 curved rear brake
K       003033

03-83  0000801
05-83  0000923
05-83  0001184
06-83  0001982
06-83  0002764
??-83  0003134
08-83  0004350
??-83  0006870
11-83  0007014
11-83  0007222  curved rear brake
11-83  0007869
01-84  0007952  curved rear brake
02-84  0009015  straight rear brake
04-84  0009817
04-84  0010982  straight rear brake
05-84  0011091  straight rear brake
??-84  0012000  XL
06-84  0013675
08-84  0014643  straight rear brake
08-84  0013746  Straight rear brake
08-84  0015680  Straight rear brake
10-84  0016244  straight rear brake
01-86  0022059
??-??  0022071


Just noticed that we have no 85 made frames yet, but two potention 86 frames

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: jimwise68 on July 11, 2006, 01:32 PM

Mine is a 1983 serial number 0000426, curved brake bridge

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: slurp on July 11, 2006, 08:24 PM

Quote from: Tone 7 on July 05, 2006, 12:12 AM

Quote from: defjam on July 05, 2006, 12:01 AM

Hi You Lot,

If mine says 03-83 0000801 does that mean I have got an early USA made frame? :shocked:

Seeing pics of others :-\ it seems genuine enough. My numbers have been stamped with "Good 'Ol 80's Star Wars" technology by comparison :2funny:.  The chrome and decals appear to be original too. ;D   Forks are ASCO:tickedoff:Are these any good as a brand??

Can I be on the list too please ;D

Thanks

Rich :daumenhoch:

Posted my serial no 0010982 4 - 84 straight bridge on page 1

but i never made the list  :'(

i posted my 2-84    8818  straight bridge on page 3 but never made it either.why am i being left out adeshere?

why?

its like when we played kiss chase at school and no one EVER ran after me.even simon bailey got some random chasing him and he wore glasses.and was portly.and smelt :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: dordymush on July 11, 2006, 09:23 PM

Quote

he wore glasses.and was portly.and smelt

 :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: christhejob on July 11, 2006, 11:22 PM

here's k3033. is this curved or straight??
(EAGLE EYED ebay lurkers listing it already....)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g209/christhejob/P7090036.jpg)

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on July 12, 2006, 12:07 AM

Stop crying,  you've just joined the gang !!!

Here is the list of serial numbers so far

K       000037
K       001638 curved rear brake
K       002406 curved rear brake
K       002792 curved rear brake
K       003033

03-83  0000801
05-83  0000923
05-83  0001184
06-83  0001982
06-83  0002764
??-83  0003134
08-83  0004350
??-83  0006870
11-83  0007014
11-83  0007222  curved rear brake
11-83  0007869
01-84  0007952  curved rear brake
02-84  0008818  straight rear brake
02-84  0009015  straight rear brake
04-84  0009817
04-84  0010982  straight rear brake
05-84  0011091  straight rear brake
??-84  0012000  XL
06-84  0013675
08-84  0014643  straight rear brake
08-84  0013746  Straight rear brake
08-84  0015680  Straight rear brake
10-84  0016244  straight rear brake
01-86  0022059
??-??  0022071


Just noticed that we have no 85 made frames yet, but two potention 86 frames

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: slurp on July 12, 2006, 11:37 AM

check me out.......... :coolsmiley:

ive made the list.

anyone for kiss chase,my luck is a changing. :LolLolLolLol:

thanks adeshere.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: jimwise68 on July 12, 2006, 02:28 PM

I didn't  :'(

will get the month tonight, so I have the full info necessary to try to make the list.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: jimwise68 on July 12, 2006, 08:42 PM

Right, mine is a 2-83 serial number 0000426.

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on July 12, 2006, 10:11 PM

There you go, your officially on the list !!

Here is the list of serial numbers so far

K       000037
K       001638 curved rear brake
K       002406 curved rear brake
K       002792 curved rear brake
K       003033

02-83  0000426
03-83  0000801
05-83  0000923
05-83  0001184
06-83  0001982
06-83  0002764
??-83  0003134
08-83  0004350
??-83  0006870
11-83  0007014
11-83  0007222  curved rear brake
11-83  0007869
01-84  0007952  curved rear brake
02-84  0008818  straight rear brake
02-84  0009015  straight rear brake
04-84  0009817
04-84  0010982  straight rear brake
05-84  0011091  straight rear brake
??-84  0012000  XL
06-84  0013675
08-84  0014643  straight rear brake
08-84  0013746  Straight rear brake
08-84  0015680  Straight rear brake
10-84  0016244  straight rear brake
01-86  0022059
??-??  0022071


Just noticed that we have no 85 made frames yet, but two potention 86 frames

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: jimwise68 on July 13, 2006, 07:38 AM

with a curved rear brake bridge Ade!  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: adeshere on July 13, 2006, 10:56 AM

Well, what colour is it and i'll add that too  :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: jimwise68 on July 13, 2006, 04:17 PM

Original chrome!

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: mcnab916 on July 13, 2006, 06:51 PM

mines 6-83   0002460, curved brake bridge, in chrome,  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Skyway ta serial number
Post by: ORANGEZIPPY on July 14, 2006, 08:24 PM

just checked my 85 tubeset,

11 - 85

0025298

curved brake bridge


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&item=170007678658&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

 :2funny: