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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on February 02, 2011, 07:20 PM
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Right got a pair of red alloy hubbed skyways
trouble is some muppet has at some point has over tightened the rear hub, pushing it in and fooking it up
now none of the rivit are damaged just the hub each side
so now what i would like to know from you lot is, has any one got one back in shape and been sucsessfull in it working ?
do you think that if i lay it on a flat suface and gently hit it in the right place to bring it back to the right place and shape ?
or does any one have any other ideas that they can come up with that might work ?
cheers B ;)
get thinking :knuppel2:
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41 views and no one with a clue ???
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41 views and no one with a clue ???
no mate sorry - but I usually check most threads anyway (I can either learn something or they might go off topic with hilarious consequences)
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cheers mate anyway ;)
right griff has excused himself and given a reason for not knowing - what about the other 40 peeps that had a look and never said a word :knuppel2:
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cheers mate anyway ;)
right griff has excused himself and given a reason for not knowing - what about the other 40 peeps that had a look and never said a word :knuppel2:
maybe they've been distracted by my bar polishing thread :angel:
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Never owned an OS pair of Skyways so can I be excused too... pictures might help though.
...anyway isn't a clever a big knife :)
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I've had this problem before BE ,, and tbh it's a fookin nightmare and fiddly
I ended up trying to warm up the hub and gently tapping from the opposite side , only thing is you struggle to keep the face even as you attempt to knock back each alloy hub prong.
someone devised a tool , where it is a long bolt was fed through where the axle goes and you slid on a wide tab then attached with a nut from the inside of both hub flanges . Then slid a collar surrounding the outer of the flange, then slid another metal plate wider than the collar on top, and then a nut to tighten and therefore pull the hub face upwards and out evenly and slowlly as not to cause any damage
Anyway why do you want to use a clever ? ???
:D :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.sillyjokes.co.uk/images/p-jokes/fav/clever-thru-head.jpg)
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;D oops !
right that's another 2 off the list
ed - that a weak excuse ::) go get some right now
HD - i was thinking of the hammer way but see what you mean - and do you know who had the right tool to get the job done (no pun you lot ;D)
38 peeps to go :knuppel2:
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38 peeps to go :knuppel2:
Guilty too... :LolLolLolLol:
but I'm only able to do it in french so not really worth explaining...
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i aint got a clue but am holding my hands up
have always thought this myself, I do a lot of posting get a lot of readers but not a lot of responses
if i can help i always try :daumenhoch: shame not everyone is the same eh
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No idea what you mean without pictures not having had Skyways.
Mi scusi senor...
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Just grind out the rivets hammer the hub flanges flat and put em back with nuts and bolts just like bitd... :daumenhoch:
I know... not the answer you wanted.... :crazy2:
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a big fook off hammer.
not very technical but i've done it before and it worked a treat.
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32 to go :knuppel2:
some helpfull - some not at all - some are right and some are wrong
just wanted to keep them org and without the bolts done
now some one else has said that CBRGIL does this job ! so gonna try him
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put the wheel under your car wheels, run over it several times..you might fook it up so much it may go back to its original shape :D
you might have guessed I havent got a fookin clue...hope this helps >:D
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Send a PM to Spen's brother Simon "Hootski70" he's fixed this problem a few times and will talk you through it :daumenhoch:
Don't expect an immediate PM back though he's not the fastest at replying :LolLolLolLol:
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32 to go :knuppel2:
some helpfull - some not at all - some are right and some are wrong
EXCUSE ............. couldn't be arsed replying as i hadn't got a fookin clue :D
SOLUTION .......... just buy some more :daumenhoch:
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I had this prob bitd, not from over tightening by a muppet, but from the cones binding and winding themselves up, quite common.
I put a new, coaster hub in mine. There is a way of drawing them back into shape, but I don't know it, but I have seen a thread with it on.
I'd be tempted to drive over it, seems the most sensible thing to do!! :2funny:
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Try this one................
Start praying to the God of your choice................and hope for divine intervention!!! :D
Failing that................get some piccys up.
Seeing the problem might inspire the masses!! :daumenhoch:
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It's been done before by quite a few others , not by me so no idea hence no previous post :LolLolLolLol: ;)
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well i would say your all a bunch of C*^ts but i like to much for that ;D
I am surprised that no one hasn't invented a tool to sort this out yet after all these years ???
i might drive over it, but can you lot send me some of your skyways to have a go first in case i f ' it up on mine ;)
cheers for those who helped and cheers to those that didn't :LolLolLolLol:
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Right then.
Mark at RetrospectBMX (cbrgill) has a tool that can do this with limited success. My brother Simon (Hootski70 on here) and I looked at using crank and pulley pullers with limited success too.
In the end the really bad ones we had to cut the rivets, turn the hubs inside out and re-bolt them temporarily and pass a big threaded bar through and wind them straight then turn them back round. Not what you want to do, but if they're really bad it's the only way ;-(
Pm me and I'll get Mark's number to you.
Spen
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Get a small G clamp ... put it against the face of the wheel using something to stop any scratches on the nylon, feed the other end through the wheel and put a long thin socket or something similar that wont bend through the wheel and on to the back of each "arm" section of your metal hub, put the other end against the G cllamp ,it will be at a slight angle so go slowly and do a bit at a time on each hub section until they are all level, turn over and repeat,you can also use another G clamp to span the rivets so as not to push them out , again do 1 section at a time ... The G clamps that have a turn type arm are better than the newer trigger type as you can wind back and forth and you have more control ,rather than just tighter and tighter until you push the release mechanism ,
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I made this a long time ago, it worked but who knows where it is now????
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=3657.msg35859#msg35859
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yer got to look for it mate :shocked:
here are what my hubs look like
rear
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX/SNC17568.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX/SNC17570.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX/SNC17574.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX/SNC17575.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX/SNC17586.jpg)
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They look like you ran over them with yr car, :2funny:
Well it must be yr lucky day, looking through all my junk in the garage, I found the tool I made. Can't beleive I still had it, thought it was long gone. If you still want it, pay me something for the postage and I will send it on to you. You can keep it then, I don't think I will need it again. I know where it is if I do. :D
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pm on it's way mate and many thanks ;)
you will have to give me some instructions on how i do it and what goes where ;)
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Good old RAD hey :) :Great_Britain:
It would be nice to keep track of this tool just like Steve (ANIMAL)'s pro-class / 7x straightening tool so that other members can use it :daumenhoch:
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Ok, im sending this tool to Bendycat, its something I knocked up out of nothing but I found it worked a treat when I needed it. As Bobafett mentioned, it might be a good idea to keep track of this tool, as others may want to use it. I will explain how to use it on here instead of PM'ing people as others can then refer to it. I think it was quite simple, lol (it was 5 years ago)
Remove axle and bearings, place large rubber bush and steel smaller cup over the hub to be straightened. Insert threaded bar with one washer (Non-welded end) through the steel cup and bush and through the damaged hub. Now (this bit is fiddly from memory) You have to place the other washer and nut onto the threaded bar inside the hubbed area, it can be done. Once screwed on, take up slack with top (external) nut by hand. Then hold top (welded) nut with spanner or socket and place spanner on the nut you just tightened by hand. Now tighten this nut, it will be hard work but remember you are pulling the hub out at this stage. Sadly you have to just do a bit at a time and keep slackening the whole assembly to check progress. Thats about it, if you pull it out too much, whack the hub back in bit by bit with a lump hammer and a block of wood on the hub to avoid damage.
Hope this helps you all, (everyone will be buying knackered old mags now) :LolLolLolLol:
Link to my original post, pics here that should hlepl! http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=3657.msg35859#msg35859