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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on January 11, 2011, 12:36 AM
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82' standard team mongoose is what it was - well that was the answer to a question of "what bike frame is this ?" asked by a member on Raleighburner.com
the photo's show a bike frame that had seen better days and a mish-mash of parts - CW style bars with a couple of dents in the cross bars - tange copy fork that bent the wrong way - odd wheels and press metal calipers
Well i pm'd him and asked if he wanted to sell the frame ! - cut a long time and story short is was a swap for some mags with a bit of cash and some brake cables and decals throw in for free - so a meet up was done in the middle of a freezing day at tesco's car park - looked so dodgy handing over bmx parts :lol:
I did ask if he could not touch/clean the frame in any way, so I could do it in my own way :wink:
so i got it home and had a look over it and it was covered in grease ans even had a feather on it ? must be a goose then ! - surface rust and pitting all over the frame - a couple of marks on one side of the gusset - and a couple of scrapes on the frame
Before i got it
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/goose82.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/goose822.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/goose823.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/goose821.jpg)
before / what it looked like when i got it
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17104.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17106.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17107.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17108.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17109.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17110.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17123.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17122.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17120.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17117.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17114.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17113.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17140.jpg)
Now after 10 hours of polishing over 3 days in different stages to get it up - it now looks like this :shock:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17300.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17299.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17306.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17292.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17297.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17287.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17307.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17331.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17314.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17317.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17335.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17251.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17351.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/GOOSE%20TEAM%2083/SNC17352.jpg)
Now there are still marks and some small pitting in places, i think that adds a touch of class to a frame that is 29 years old and still can turn out like this :cool: - now i just gotta find some forks to go with it
cheers B :wink:
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tell all, what a you using for that process please?
Looks fantastic :daumenhoch:
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You have photographed two frames there :LolLolLolLol: Great work :4_17_5:
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??? Great work!
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Amazing work there. looks fantastic :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
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come out brill,good work :4_17_5:
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awesome work! love those Goose frames as well :smitten:
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Amazing work there B, top stuff :smitten:
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If I hadn't seen the serial number in both sets of pics I would have sworn it was a different frame! She's come up really well! :daumenhoch:
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Great work there :daumenhoch: , stage process as mentioned above would be cool ;)
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Great work Mr B looks fantastic :4_17_5:
Tell us the secret then....................... ::)
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That has come up fantastic :daumenhoch:
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Cracking bit of resto mate , blinging results 8)
Did you use Lemon juice and tinfoil ???
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That came out lovely :daumenhoch: Looked to me like a goose had been sat on the top tube, using the headset cup as an ashtray...
Coke and tinfoil? Or Oxy/Vinegar/Citric bath? Either way it's come up a treat :)
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I'm always amazed by the resto on this sight and that frame is fooking amazing, nice job :4_17_5:
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Awesome job man 8) :daumenhoch:
What did you use on it? ???
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Done a nice job there.
The guy also asked on here as to what frame it was.
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=119305.0
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thats a serious amount of elbow grease you used there my freind and worth every ounce :daumenhoch: the finish is amazing 8)
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Nice clean up :daumenhoch:
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awesome job,nice to see you managed to salvage it with a bit of spit and polish.ive got/had two of those geese both rechromed and im must admit that the results were both a bit disappointing,mostly because of the high content of tricky areas on the gusset geese which the pre chrome polish cant get into.looking at yours it looks as good as my rechromed geese :daumenhoch:
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Cheers Guys :daumenhoch:
it took a bit of time and hard work, but was a joy to see it come up as it has - i was a bit surprised how much it did come up - it now sits in front of me in the lounge just shinning away - now has any body got a set of forks to match it ? bobafett ?
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now has any body got a set of forks to match it ? bobafett ?
John parting with some goose forks ::) you've got as much chance as Liverpool getting 3 points on Sunday :D
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wow :shocked: :4_17_5:
whats the secret.......and can we send you frames ;D
deffo incentive to get one of me frames sorted after them results
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Excellent work that ... :daumenhoch: looks mint
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now has any body got a set of forks to match it ? bobafett ?
John parting with some goose forks ::) you've got as much chance as Liverpool getting 3 points on Sunday :D
Oh dear Joff :D
Keep that up ,,, you colud be looking at a ban :police:
Especially when the derby goes your way :-X ::)
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
I love a good ressurection Bendy ,,, and lovely mk2 Goose too :smitten:
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I can see me having to do another thread on how i get a frame or parts like this ;)
or maybe i should just charge a fee for a privet demo of a how to ;D
forks
forks
forks
please :angel:
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now has any body got a set of forks to match it ? bobafett ?
John parting with some goose forks ::) you've got as much chance as Liverpool getting 3 points on Sunday :D
Oh dear Joff :D
Keep that up ,,, you colud be looking at a ban :police:
Especially when the derby goes your way :-X ::)
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: Probably Christian , john never speaks to me now since he became a MOD :police: :D
Hey Bendy , are you going to spill the beans on this and tell us what you used ???
I can't see it being just autosol as that can be quite abrasive and would surely of resulted in some yellowing to the frame :-\
Coke/tinfoil ? Lemon juice/tinfoil ?
It's a cracking job mate 8)
Regarding the forks .... you should have been at MK09 , Jai was selling a box of Tange pinched forks (ideal for this) at a £10 a pop ::)
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£10 a pop - bugger :'(
autosol = is too harsh and scratchy - will take off more chrome than you want and leave hair line scratches that will dull the chrome
coke and tin foil = the coke eats the rust - the tin foil takes it away but again is not a great choice of stuff to use - the tin foil will start to scratch the chrome when it gets more crumpled , it also collects rust in the foil and bigger bits can scratch chrome to dull it
lemon does the same as coke = brakes down the rust = it can help but be careful that the rust spot /pit does get too much lemon/coke under the chrome or it might start toi pull it up and get under more chrome
cheers B ;)
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£10 a pop - bugger :'(
autosol = is too harsh and scratchy - will take off more chrome than you want and leave hair line scratches that will dull the chrome
coke and tin foil = the coke eats the rust - the tin foil takes it away but again is not a great choice of stuff to use - the tin foil will start to scratch the chrome when it gets more crumpled , it also collects rust in the foil and bigger bits can scratch chrome to dull it
lemon does the same as coke = brakes down the rust = it can help but be careful that the rust spot /pit does get too much lemon/coke under the chrome or it might start toi pull it up and get under more chrome
cheers B ;)
So Oxy/Citric/Vinegar bath then? ;)
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I'd use a three stage polishing kit designed for automotive use (check out Frosts (http://www.frost.co.uk) ) but the key is how you use what you have, take your time.
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John parting with some goose forks ::) you've got as much chance as Liverpool getting 3 points on Sunday :D
john never speaks to me now since he became a MOD :police: :D
tw@t :yahoo_silent:
:LolLolLolLol:
Regarding the forks .... you should have been at MK09 , Jai was selling a box of Tange pinched forks (ideal for this) at a £10 a pop ::)
Tange pinched would look OK but they are not the right forks for this frame. You need the later mid 1981 - mid 1983 forks that look similar to cali forks but are a bit rounder on the bend where the fork arms meet the steerer tube ;)
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post pic please John ;) and then send them to me so i can have a closer look :angel:
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post pic please John
This is them..........
(They look very similer to cali forks but they are different - if you turned them upside down they look a bit more "U" shaped to the cali's more "V" shape ;) )
(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1981minigoose_mybikereplica/1981_minigoose_bobafett_02.JPG)
(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1981minigoose_mybikereplica/1981_minigoose_bobafett_06.JPG)
:daumenhoch:
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:4_17_5: superb , felt mops on a dremmel? , peak then braso? loads of patience :4_17_5:, like a few others, i went for the different frame at first ;) brilliant.
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Id be grateful if you could share your technique as ive got this to do soon, and the strange thing is I need forks like you as mine has the same forks as you have aswell !!!!
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thread coming up - laptop is away being fixed from a virus >:(
I've got the pic's done and just need to do a write up 8)
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hi Andy,
can you please ring me... I have lost all my numbers, waiting for you to call, but it's clear you don't love me anymore... :'(
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UPDATE : The MT RACING SILVER FOX has come back to me and now rests in it's new place at my home once again :smitten:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/MT%20SILVER%20FOX%20BMX/SNC16933-1.jpg)
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is that a hipstamatic shot ???
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samsung nv10
changed to black & white and then fitered out some of the colours
to give it a look like you might have found in BMX Action Bike ;)
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bump - i have redone the pic as photobucket was messing around and no pic were coming up ! cheers B