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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: simo27 on November 26, 2010, 10:45 PM
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Hi guys
Building up an early 80's ripper, what cranks does anyone recommend? Was looking at the new Redline flight cranks (cant afford original early 80's ones!) any ideas?
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Alloy Frame......Alloy Cranks
Maxy Cross's :daumenhoch:
:smitten:
Wouldnt put anything else on mine ;)
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Thanks bud, nothing much on ebay at mo, alans and vertego dont have much, anyone else good for old school parts?
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original redline flights, only way to go, 400s or 401s
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124c6e346c16c8e.jpg)
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124c768298b33f6.jpg)
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suntour vx are tasty and wont break the bank
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original redline flights, only way to go, 400s or 401s
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124c6e346c16c8e.jpg)
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124c768298b33f6.jpg)
got any better pics of the blue ripper andy? :smitten:
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Aerospeeds, dont be a fookin cheapskate :daumenhoch:
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To be honest Simo ,
Don't put modern cranks on it if you aren't gonna go down the dearer route
Some half decent alloy Suntour VX or Sugino Maxy cross could turn up for around £40/£50
or just as good put a minty one piece crank on , either way better putting genuine old school parts on it
if it's a early looptail Ripper :)
Good luck with your search
buy a site supporter tag and get a WANTED advert up ;)
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Thanks guys, will get a site supporter tag. :)
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original redline flights, only way to go, 400s or 401s
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124c6e346c16c8e.jpg)
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124c768298b33f6.jpg)
Lovely bikes :daumenhoch:, dont think the missus will let us buy original 400's :-[
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Chris
If the flights are out of the price range then either a nice 1 piece or better still get a set of Campanolo's, TA's or Shimano 600's, they will all go really nice with an early Ripper. Or go different and get some Cook Bros.
This is a set of Campagnolo's on my DeCoster....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/DeCoster/BOTYnewpictures005.jpg)
Here are some Cook Bros on my Champion.....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/Champion/Championbuilt002.jpg)
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Mine with DX's
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/Preston010.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/Preston021.jpg)
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Fook me those DX's look ace on a PK, ignore my choices Chris just get a set of DX's and you have a winner.
Nice bike Mr Dubber :4_17_5:
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i have 400s on mine but a set of alloy sugino ones would look fine or a 1 piece.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n203/john4130/pk5.jpg)
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Chris
If the flights are out of the price range then either a nice 1 piece or better still get a set of Campanolo's, TA's or Shimano 600's, they will all go really nice with an early Ripper. Or go different and get some Cook Bros.
This is a set of Campagnolo's on my DeCoster....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/DeCoster/BOTYnewpictures005.jpg)
Here are some Cook Bros on my Champion.....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/Champion/Championbuilt002.jpg)
Thannks Sean, will go shopping....... :D
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Mine with DX's
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/Preston010.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/Preston021.jpg)
Are they original DX's or a newer version, look quality!
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Think Rippers look far more 80's with a good quality OPC...rarely seen a ripper with a 3 PC round our way back int Day.
Same with quads as well. :daumenhoch:
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Mine with DX's
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/Preston010.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/Preston021.jpg)
Are they original DX's or a newer version, look quality!
1981
http://martinbike.jalbum.net/Bike%20Builder/Cranks%20&%20Drivetrain/slides/82ad-800x600.html
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Think Rippers look far more 80's with a good quality OPC...rarely seen a ripper with a 3 PC round our way back int Day.
Same with quads as well. :daumenhoch:
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Not many kids had rippers in Middlesbrough when I was a lad so only looked from a distance, I always presumed that they would have 3 pc cranks. Ill see what I can find!
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If I was to go with a one piece crank would any american BB do or are they different to 3 pc crank bb's?
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I had a 1 piece fitted on my one. It would have been nice to have a 3 piece like a Flight crank but as it was I had to just look at the bare frame for quite a few weeks before I could get some bits to build it !
A lot of the guys thought that the 3 piece cranks like the Maxy Cross and Suntour were a bit weak although this was mainly due to the axle nuts being kept tight. Once they came loose the alloy arm would get damaged and the cranks would be scrap.
Sugino did a crome moly 3 piece crank but I only saw 1 of these, stronger than an alloy one but probably heavier than a 1 piece.
Even a few of the guys that used to race and had Flight Cranks had problems with the pinch bolts coming loose. Riding round with the long allen keys in the pocket wasn't a very good idea !
In the end a lot just has a 1 piece crank, heavy but pretty indestructable. When I tidied up my Ripper a while back I fitted the Maxy Cross crank my Brother had on his bike. The only problem I ever had was when using a coaster brake as the 1 piece crank spider used to move, not a problem with the 3 piece one.
To answer your question the bottom brackets are different and I think there were two thread sizes available for the 1 piece so make sure you get the right one.
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Think Rippers look far more 80's with a good quality OPC...rarely seen a ripper with a 3 PC round our way back int Day.
Same with quads as well. :daumenhoch:
Do think the DX's look really well but have to agree with you only bike I ever saw BITD with 3PC belonged to a sponsored rider.
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I had a 1 piece fitted on my one. It would have been nice to have a 3 piece like a Flight crank but as it was I had to just look at the bare frame for quite a few weeks before I could get some bits to build it !
A lot of the guys thought that the 3 piece cranks like the Maxy Cross and Suntour were a bit weak although this was mainly due to the axle nuts being kept tight. Once they came loose the alloy arm would get damaged and the cranks would be scrap.
Sugino did a crome moly 3 piece crank but I only saw 1 of these, stronger than an alloy one but probably heavier than a 1 piece.
Even a few of the guys that used to race and had Flight Cranks had problems with the pinch bolts coming loose. Riding round with the long allen keys in the pocket wasn't a very good idea !
In the end a lot just has a 1 piece crank, heavy but pretty indestructable. When I tidied up my Ripper a while back I fitted the Maxy Cross crank my Brother had on his bike. The only problem I ever had was when using a coaster brake as the 1 piece crank spider used to move, not a problem with the 3 piece one.
To answer your question the bottom brackets are different and I think there were two thread sizes available for the 1 piece so make sure you get the right one.
Thanks for the advice Steve, will keep a close eye on that, think I will go for a 1pc. Will keep you posted!
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Think Rippers look far more 80's with a good quality OPC...rarely seen a ripper with a 3 PC round our way back int Day.
Same with quads as well. :daumenhoch:
Do think the DX's look really well but have to agree with you only bike I ever saw BITD with 3PC belonged to a sponsored rider.
most of us round my way had flights or profiles bitd after getting tired of bending OPCs
bit hard to see but, my ripper bitd with 185mm flights
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124acb90fb78cec.jpg)
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124cd2912fba31c.jpg)
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124cd28dba2db93.jpg)
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Good photos!! What year was that ?
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Hi all
Decided to go for a 1pc sugino off ebay, £24, will post photos!
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Can't really go wrong with an OPC on a PK ripper..
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/s192/2xchevron/PK%20Ripper%2083/PKRipper83050.jpg)
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Looks nice that! What cranks are they?
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liking that :daumenhoch:
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Went with the maxy cross on mine
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v716/glenbett/DSC02665.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v716/glenbett/DSC02664.jpg)
If you don't like your 1pc let me know I could be tempted to sell them :daumenhoch:
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Looks nice that! What cranks are they?
Thanks, cranks are Tioga Task Force
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I went with Super Maxy on a previous Ripper but going for Shimano Dura Ace with the next one :coolsmiley:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a217/steve167690/SE%20Racing%20Collection%20-%202010/BGPKR012.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a217/steve167690/SE%20Racing%20Collection%20-%202010/BGPKR03.jpg)
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Got to be a OPC in my opinion.
Thats what i had on mine:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/j135/jimwise68/DSC03580.jpg)
Dont recall seeing many 3PC cranks back in the early days.
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Thanks for all the advice fellas, nice seeing what other people have got! Like I mentioned went for a Sugino 1pc off ebay, what chainwheel do I now go for! The choices are endless!!!! :D
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Looks nice that! What cranks are they?
Thanks, cranks are Tioga Task Force
Theres more cranks than I can remember! Cant remember seeing all of these in BMX Action Bike! (I kept all of my copies by the way!)