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Title: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on November 09, 2010, 10:05 PM
Brought this Hoffman off Ebay not really knowing what it was.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/hoff.jpg)

Feedback from you lovely people said it was a 96/97 Sugar Baby... and pretty decent.

Very similar one on the museum

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/hoffman/41583 (http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/hoffman/41583)

So I decided this should be my new rider and got down to stripping and cleaning it.

Its been pretty well kept but rather rusty in places - the frame has a few scrapes but nothing to write home about - it cleaned and polished up lovely.

The only pi$$er was that the previous owner had chopped the bars stupidly short - they are getting sent to Sawzall for extensions  :daumenhoch:

Just need a layback seatpost ( going for a Odesssy one ) a front brake ( DC Bulldog ) and a seat ( not sure I like the Hoffman ones  :( )

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/IMG_0790.jpg)

Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: gary4130 on November 09, 2010, 10:31 PM
looking good so far ed  :daumenhoch:
let me know if you want to part with those oddy bermuda tyres mate  8)
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on November 22, 2010, 03:04 PM
looking well Nice Edwardo!   :coolsmiley:

i've got a nice silver bulldog front brake if you want it?  ???

also i'd stay well clear of the Oddy laybacks, they're made of butter and bend way to easy! 

oh, with regards the front brake. i've got a nice mid school DNA ADD brake plate if you wanted to put that on it??   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on November 24, 2010, 05:23 PM
Update - bars being extended & sorted by Sir Phil of Sawzall :daumenhoch:

Had the oven pride on the pegs and got them back to alloy

Kept the original seat and cleaned it up to go on an alloy painted layback - repainted the DC back brake the same colour to...

Got black, pink and baby blue ame rounds but not sure what to go with yet - seat is black so...

Got shot of the GT stem and cleaned up the original stem... much better.

Anyway - more pics soon as I get my bars back  :daumenhoch:

Just need a copy of HB decals for the seat tube... gonna ask Del.



Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: Munnyella on November 24, 2010, 05:44 PM
Black seat - Black grips, no brainer, save the pastels for your grandkids bikes in the future!!
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on November 25, 2010, 08:38 AM
just love those decals!!  for me they are THE best decals ever made on a frame and forks  :smitten:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 04, 2010, 05:15 PM
Black seat - Black grips, no brainer, save the pastels for your grandkids bikes in the future!!

says Mr Union Jack seat  ::) you need a 'Busby' on to ride that  ;D

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/vv320/munnyella/DSCF0415.jpg)

Mr Costa can rock this on his Performer seat  ;)

(http://spartanscorp.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/barry-winiker-flag-of-greece.jpg)

Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 05, 2010, 08:29 PM
Sir Phil of Sawzall has been on the case with me shitterly short bars... RESULT  :angel:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y77/sawzall717/IMG_1833.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y77/sawzall717/IMG_1841.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y77/sawzall717/IMG_1842.jpg)

gonna be riding this reel soon now  :smitten:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: skidmark on December 05, 2010, 09:57 PM
Nice work on the bars   :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on December 06, 2010, 07:45 AM
top work on those bars Ed, Phils a master!  but who the fook cut them down that much in the first place!  :shocked:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 06, 2010, 11:37 AM
top work on those bars Ed, Phils a master!  but who the fook cut them down that much in the first place!  :shocked:

I know what you are thinking but it wasn't me  ;D

Must have been ridden by a T-Rex or something  :D
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: gobshite on December 06, 2010, 01:24 PM
are the bar extensions solid bar? :LolLolLolLol:

sugar baby is cool apart from the tyres,

2-hip pork is a classic ruined though.....ewww.
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 06, 2010, 02:11 PM
are the bar extensions solid bar? :LolLolLolLol:

sugar baby is cool apart from the tyres,

2-hip pork is a classic ruined though.....ewww.

They are Odyssey Flatland Bermuda Day Smith Signature tyres from 96... I kinda like 'em what would you suggest instead?

and yep... the Pork is over  ;D
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on December 06, 2010, 09:08 PM
As far as tyres go Ed I'd go for skin walled lamellos.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 06, 2010, 10:04 PM
Got any pics... links... please Rob  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 06, 2010, 10:07 PM
oh yes...

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a53/lloydieboy/IMG_0491.jpg)
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on December 07, 2010, 07:55 AM
 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 09, 2010, 11:31 PM
Got my bars back in the post from Sawzall Phil this morning ... he did an amazing job - you would honestly never know they had been fixxed unless you saw them before... so good. CHEERS PHIL  :4_17_5:

Got the bars on tonight and after a while got the AD style brake sorted... ( how do you make them snap back? mine doesn't ) - gotta get some new tyres like Rob said  ;)

So heres a sh*t phone pic to be going on with ... so chuffed to have a rideable bike again  :smitten: - roll on next Saturday down the Boardroom  :)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/09122010_001.jpg)
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: gobshite on December 10, 2010, 02:23 AM
Got my bars back in the post from Sawzall Phil this morning ... he did an amazing job - you would honestly never know they had been fixxed unless you actually rode them.. so heavy. CHEERS PHIL  :4_17_5:

Got the bars on tonight and after a while got the AD style brake sorted... ( how do you make them snap back? mine doesn't ) - gotta get some new tyres like Rob said  ;)

So heres a sh*t phone pic to be going on with ... so chuffed to have a rideable bike again  :smitten: - roll on next Saturday down the Boardroom  :)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/09122010_001.jpg)

there......i fixed that for you....
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 10, 2010, 07:26 AM
Got my bars back in the post from Sawzall Phil this morning ... he did an amazing job - you would honestly never know they had been fixxed unless you actually rode them.. so heavy. CHEERS PHIL  :4_17_5:

Got the bars on tonight and after a while got the AD style brake sorted... ( how do you make them snap back? mine doesn't ) - gotta get some new tyres like Rob said  ;)

So heres a sh*t phone pic to be going on with ... so chuffed to have a rideable bike again  :smitten: - roll on next Saturday down the Boardroom  :)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/09122010_001.jpg)

there......i fixed that for you....

sorry dude - lost track that you suggested the tyre change - duh... its weird as I really liked the tyres then after you said and I had a scout around for Robs suggestion, they started looking 'small'... gotta get some ordered.
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on December 10, 2010, 08:09 AM
looks super sweet that Ed!!  love those!

with regards the rear AD brake snapping back?  you need to load the spring tensions on each side (not too much though) slacken off the allen key nut, then with a spanner turn the spring cap so it pulls the caliper off the rim, then tighten the allen key while holding the spring tension.  do both sides and bobs your uncle  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 10, 2010, 01:20 PM
looks super sweet that Ed!!  love those!

with regards the rear AD brake snapping back?  you need to load the spring tensions on each side (not too much though) slacken off the allen key nut, then with a spanner turn the spring cap so it pulls the caliper off the rim, then tighten the allen key while holding the spring tension.  do both sides and bobs your uncle  :daumenhoch:

Rob - I tried that and they are pretty springy but when you put the cables on they loose all the snap... I'll keep fiddling.

( Gary - you got a PM on those tyres  :daumenhoch: )
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: steve.4130 on December 13, 2010, 04:24 PM
Good work! would be awesome to cruze round on that thing 8)   Im hooked on HB's now :smitten:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: nomad on December 15, 2010, 02:10 AM
looking forward to looking at this on sat. i think you will be shocked at how much nicer it is to ride than the old school stuff. hopefully i will be bringing my new bike too
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: gobshite on December 15, 2010, 03:46 AM
it was the bar extensions that perplexed me the most, they certainly look neat and would be fine for a show bike but i personally wouldnt advise riding with them,
if they are indeed solid then putting that much weight so far out on the bars would feel very weird to ride to me,
plus the fact that the insert is so close to the major stress area, fatigue over time could well end up in catasrophic failure and a sharp handlebar end to the face/throat/chest.
just buy some uncut bars, hoffman love handles,patriots,chocolates, castillo's, moes bars, would all work :daumenhoch:

the odyssey tyres are fine, they just look so thin on a chunky mid school ride, aesthetic taste i guess,

without sounding a twat, have you got the springs on their respective correct sides?
they are right and left specific,

do the arms bind on the posts at all?
try fitting the brake without the springs to check that the tensioner washer and bolt are working freely,

sweet bike.....
sugar baby........erm...........ok :-\
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: Dr.Robotnik on December 15, 2010, 11:55 AM
looks super sweet that Ed!!  love those!

with regards the rear AD brake snapping back?  you need to load the spring tensions on each side (not too much though) slacken off the allen key nut, then with a spanner turn the spring cap so it pulls the caliper off the rim, then tighten the allen key while holding the spring tension.  do both sides and bobs your uncle  :daumenhoch:

Rob - I tried that and they are pretty springy but when you put the cables on they loose all the snap... I'll keep fiddling.

( Gary - you got a PM on those tyres  :daumenhoch: )

Make sure you have the springs on the right way round mate.

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Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 15, 2010, 02:06 PM
alright man

thanks for your feedback mate - I appreciate your efforts to keep me from physical damage - if another pair came up that were full length I would deffo buy them - I need to check out the other bars you mention - Stodgy told me abotu some new school bars which are like the Hoffman ones but I havent looked at them yet - if my riding included anything burly then I would change em but I'm just gonna be crusing around... you have made me think now though  :angel: the extensions aren't solid but thicker tubing. I'll see if theres room on my xmas list for more bars  :)

I totally agree with you on the tyres but it wasn't until you said that I saw it - got some of those ones that Pickle mentioned on the way ( hopefully )

Will have to check about the springs as I had just put all the bits in a bag and didn't note right or left - without the cables on they seem to be springing back ok - but once all the cables via the gyro are on then it looses its snapiness.

gay name for a nice bike  :)

it was the bar extensions that perplexed me the most, they certainly look neat and would be fine for a show bike but i personally wouldnt advise riding with them,
if they are indeed solid then putting that much weight so far out on the bars would feel very weird to ride to me,
plus the fact that the insert is so close to the major stress area, fatigue over time could well end up in catasrophic failure and a sharp handlebar end to the face/throat/chest.
just buy some uncut bars, hoffman love handles,patriots,chocolates, castillo's, moes bars, would all work :daumenhoch:

the odyssey tyres are fine, they just look so thin on a chunky mid school ride, aesthetic taste i guess,

without sounding a twat, have you got the springs on their respective correct sides?
they are right and left specific,

do the arms bind on the posts at all?
try fitting the brake without the springs to check that the tensioner washer and bolt are working freely,

sweet bike.....
sugar baby........erm...........ok :-\
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 15, 2010, 02:07 PM
will go check that now  :)

looks super sweet that Ed!!  love those!

with regards the rear AD brake snapping back?  you need to load the spring tensions on each side (not too much though) slacken off the allen key nut, then with a spanner turn the spring cap so it pulls the caliper off the rim, then tighten the allen key while holding the spring tension.  do both sides and bobs your uncle  :daumenhoch:

Rob - I tried that and they are pretty springy but when you put the cables on they loose all the snap... I'll keep fiddling.

( Gary - you got a PM on those tyres  :daumenhoch: )

Make sure you have the springs on the right way round mate.

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Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on December 15, 2010, 02:09 PM
Ed, let me know if you have any luck with the tyres as i wouldn't mind a set of those as well  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 15, 2010, 02:12 PM
Ed, let me know if you have any luck with the tyres as i wouldn't mind a set of those as well  :daumenhoch:

email from them says 'awaiting stock' mmmm  :-\
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: gobshite on December 15, 2010, 02:49 PM
twasnt a dig at the name mate,
just my shit sense of humour,
"sweet"
"sugar"
 :-[


Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 15, 2010, 03:07 PM
twasnt a dig at the name mate,
just my shit sense of humour,
"sweet"
"sugar"
 :-[

seen  :)

somethings don't translate well on t'interweb...  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 17, 2010, 05:37 AM
Ed, let me know if you have any luck with the tyres as i wouldn't mind a set of those as well  :daumenhoch:

my order got cancelled by them  :(
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on December 17, 2010, 05:41 AM
Bugger  >:(
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: fugazi on December 17, 2010, 09:13 AM
Put some Hoffman Skidmark tyres on there  :daumenhoch: A set of Primo 1.95 V-monsters would suit it as well & are easy to get, loving the Sugerbaby  8)
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 17, 2010, 09:47 AM
Put some Hoffman Skidmark tyres on there  :daumenhoch: A set of Primo 1.95 V-monsters would suit it as well & are easy to get, loving the Sugerbaby  8)

Wish those Hoffman tyres had amber walls... can't stand all black 'motorbike' tyres... got a phobia... will keep looking for a new school amberwall - cheers though
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on December 17, 2010, 09:55 AM
If you don't mind being non era correct, what about these?
http://www.radbmxshop.co.uk/shop/article_696.001/FIT-F.A.F-Tyre---SKINWALL.html'shop_param=cid%3D11%26aid%3D696.001%26

or the Oddy ones for about the same price, you can pump the fookers up to about 110 psi as well so no skidding out from underneath you  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 18, 2010, 06:52 AM
If you don't mind being non era correct, what about these?
http://www.radbmxshop.co.uk/shop/article_696.001/FIT-F.A.F-Tyre---SKINWALL.html'shop_param=cid%3D11%26aid%3D696.001%26

or the Oddy ones for about the same price, you can pump the fookers up to about 110 psi as well so no skidding out from underneath you  :daumenhoch:

you're saying I'm fat but pretending to help ... I can take it  :)

I'll have a butchers at them Roberto

Better pic today... riding the fooker tonight for the first time  :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/P1000940.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/P1000939.jpg)
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 18, 2010, 06:57 AM
Rob... is it 1.85 rear and 2.1 front like a old school set up or just rock 2 of each size?
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on December 18, 2010, 08:16 AM
That looks sweet.......see what I did there.......I'd go for 1.95 on both but its up to you mate   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: Robbo on December 18, 2010, 02:23 PM
If you don't mind being non era correct, what about these?
http://www.radbmxshop.co.uk/shop/article_696.001/FIT-F.A.F-Tyre---SKINWALL.html'shop_param=cid%3D11%26aid%3D696.001%26

or the Oddy ones for about the same price, you can pump the fookers up to about 110 psi as well so no skidding out from underneath you  :daumenhoch:

I've been looking at these, sweet looking tyre!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 22, 2010, 07:26 AM
If you don't mind being non era correct, what about these?
http://www.radbmxshop.co.uk/shop/article_696.001/FIT-F.A.F-Tyre---SKINWALL.html'shop_param=cid%3D11%26aid%3D696.001%26

or the Oddy ones for about the same price, you can pump the fookers up to about 110 psi as well so no skidding out from underneath you  :daumenhoch:

I've been looking at these, sweet looking tyre!  :daumenhoch:

got a pair on the way  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on December 22, 2010, 05:35 PM
How did it ride ed?
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: LENNY-LENTINI on December 26, 2010, 09:39 AM
I've seen this bike in the flesh and it looks killer.

Drew lots of comments form everyone at the lost Lest'air sesh.

If you change the tyres deffo keep the Day Smiths cause in few years time they will be like gold dust (not far off now)

I had Ody path tan walls on the Holmes I was riding at Lest'air before I put the comp 3 re-issues's on. The paths were great but they weighed a ton (I know...Weird) and when your riding a Holmes it's best to keep the weight down where you can.
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: ED209 on December 30, 2010, 07:07 AM
I've seen this bike in the flesh and it looks killer.

Drew lots of comments form everyone at the lost Lest'air sesh.

If you change the tyres deffo keep the Day Smiths cause in few years time they will be like gold dust (not far off now)

I had Ody path tan walls on the Holmes I was riding at Lest'air before I put the comp 3 re-issues's on. The paths were great but they weighed a ton (I know...Weird) and when your riding a Holmes it's best to keep the weight down where you can.

Alright Lenny - good to see you and the Nottz hardcore... braving the clear roads to get to Leicester  :LolLolLolLol:

I've gone for the Fit tyres with the pale walls that Stodgy has in the shop - they look sick - it looks very American  8)

http://www.radbmxshop.co.uk/shop/article_696.001/FIT-F.A.F-Tyre---SKINWALL.html'shop_param=cid%3D11%26aid%3D696.001%26

(http://www.radbmxshop.co.uk/.media/080057336592.jpeg)

Going down to the Boardroom again today as its BMX only from 2pm ... will organise another night for March  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman Sugar Baby
Post by: pickle on December 30, 2010, 08:48 AM
i bet they look great on it Ed  :daumenhoch:
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