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Offline oldschoolib

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mongoose pro class spoke size
« on: October 22, 2009, 12:45 PM »
need to know spoke size for a set of american imported proclass rims with standard hubs, thanks in advance for any replies :daumenhoch:

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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2009, 03:14 PM »

 standard hubs


 ?  ???
 
Elaborate on the hubs mate  ;)

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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2009, 03:26 PM »
If the hubs are Suzue small flange size then 194mm with a 4 cross lace , if they are large flange 184mm ( 3 cross lace ) or 192mm with a 4 cross lace  :daumenhoch:

I will double check later but ideally like Jongoose ^ says above we need to know what hubs they are  ;)
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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2009, 04:09 PM »
the hubs are  sr sealed  k 84 front and sr sealed c 85 rear, the rear is bigger than the front, ive never noticed that before

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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2009, 04:11 PM »
after hours on bmx museum i found out that they were 3 star laced to make them stronger  :idiot2: so any help will be gladly used

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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 05:21 PM »
If the hubs are Suzue small flange size then 194mm with a 4 cross lace , if they are large flange 184mm ( 3 cross lace ) or 192mm with a 4 cross lace  :daumenhoch:

I will double check later but ideally like Jongoose ^ says above we need to know what hubs they are  ;)

does this mean you are a proffessional wheel builder johnathon, as i have some that need doing and im shite at it.
and you need 194 my man with those hubs  :daumenhoch:

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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 07:36 PM »

The pro-class on my blue-max build have SR hubs  :)

They are complete survivor wheels with matching SR hubs stamped "H 85"

Not 100% on measuring spokes but measuring directly from the hub hole to the rim :

FRONT = 194mm

REAR = 192mm

The wheel builders on here may be able to translate those measurements into spokes for you as i don't know if the spoke length includes all of the nipple / part of the nipple etc.

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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2009, 07:56 PM »
any idea who to ask, who are the wheel gurus on here  :daumenhoch:

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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2009, 08:22 PM »

The pro-class on my blue-max build have SR hubs  :)

They are complete survivor wheels with matching SR hubs stamped "H 85"

Not 100% on measuring spokes but measuring directly from the hub hole to the rim :

FRONT = 194mm

REAR = 192mm

The wheel builders on here may be able to translate those measurements into spokes for you as i don't know if the spoke length includes all of the nipple / part of the nipple etc.

 :daumenhoch:



The problem we are having here John is that oldschoolib has one hub (small flange) and the other one is in between a small flange and a large flange  :D      

I have PM'd him a spoke calculator but you need to take certain measurements of the hub and the rim and input them in the calculator , it's like being back at school.

All this talk of 'flanges' is doing my head in  :D

If the hubs are Suzue small flange size then 194mm with a 4 cross lace , if they are large flange 184mm ( 3 cross lace ) or 192mm with a 4 cross lace  :daumenhoch:

I will double check later but ideally like Jongoose ^ says above we need to know what hubs they are  ;)

does this mean you are a proffessional wheel builder johnathon, as i have some that need doing and im shite at it.
and you need 194 my man with those hubs  :daumenhoch:

I wouldn't say that mate , I can build them it's the truing i struggle with  :D  None of my bikes i have built have been riders so it has not bothered me up to now. ;)   If you want me to lace them though I will  :daumenhoch: Seeing it's you and the little favours you have done for me  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2009, 08:25 PM »
I am sure it's Stidds who is the wheel expert on here  :-\
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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2009, 08:43 PM »
ill give stidds a quick see where that goes and try what you sent me
nice one

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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2009, 08:52 PM »
ill give stidds a quick see where that goes and try what you sent me
nice one

 :daumenhoch:  Feel free to ring me and i will talk you through the measurements you need to take  :daumenhoch:   Failing that I will bring my digital calipers with me when I collect the little ones Goose and I will work it out for you  :daumenhoch:
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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2009, 09:07 PM »

The problem we are having here John is that oldschoolib has one hub (small flange) and the other one is in between a small flange and a large flange  :D      


Like I said my hubs on the set of pro class I measured are SR as well - the front hub measures (edge to edge) approx 50mm and the rear (egde to edge) is 60mm approx. - can't see any reason why these others would be different.

And as I mentioned it's 194mm front and 192mm rear measurement from hub hole to rim edge  ;)

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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2009, 09:18 PM »
nice one bobba ill have a quick measure but i think from what you said that sounds about right if i hit any troubles john will come with his instruments and well see where that takes us
super happy with the replies and info provided many thanks  :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2009, 09:20 PM »

The problem we are having here John is that oldschoolib has one hub (small flange) and the other one is in between a small flange and a large flange  :D      


Like I said my hubs on the set of pro class I measured are SR as well - the front hub measures (edge to edge) approx 50mm and the rear (egde to edge) is 60mm approx. - can't see any reason why these others would be different.

And as I mentioned it's 194mm front and 192mm rear measurement from hub hole to rim edge  ;)



Sorry John didnt realise your hubs where diferent sizes too , thought yours were both the same size  :D

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Re: mongoose pro class spoke size
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2009, 09:32 PM »

Seeing your the expert , those pro class you want doing ........ do' em yourself   :D  :LolLolLolLol:


May as fookin well - look how long it's taken ya to sort them cranks out  ::)



 any troubles NORTY40 will come with his instruments and well see where that takes us



Just be carefull of that vibrating one he keeps next to his spoke keys mate  :shocked: :shocked:


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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2009, 10:01 PM »

May as fookin well - look how long it's taken ya to sort them cranks out  ::)


 :LolLolLolLol:

Not the ones I ebayed the other day  :D



Just be carefull of that vibrating one he keeps next to his spoke keys mate  :shocked: :shocked:



Just ignore him mate , he is only jealous  :D ;)

Hopefully your sorted now  :daumenhoch:
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2009, 10:40 AM »
John, do you have any pictures of Jonathon and his vibrating instruments ?? :LolLolLolLol:

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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2009, 10:48 AM »
John, do you have any pictures of Jonathon and his vibrating instruments ?? :LolLolLolLol:

 :shocked: photoshop moment.................... :-X ;)

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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2009, 01:41 PM »
hey ian take  em up to your local specialist bmx shop alphabmx hope street.

 i will be able to sort them out for you matey no problem, i am sure they will be 184 rear and 186 front with a 3 cross pattern. i'm pretty sure they wouldn't have been laced 4 cross on a machine in a bike factory? as a builder of many wheels old and new school, i am most interested in the history of when 4 cross was first used in a bmx wheel. i find 3 cross is just as strong  as 4 cross in practice as long as you keep them spokes nice and tight, and with 3 cross its a lot easier to replace the spoke as they dont cross the spoke holes on the hub.

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