drop out savers

[58 delray]

as a newbie on here i have been looking back through pages of stuff that i have missed through not being here from the beginning and have seen some stunning restos.
 one thing i noticed though was the use of oval type dropout savers on many looptail rippers, these are not something i remember from bitd, the savers i remember that came with LTRs were large black washers, one of which had a raised portion to fit inside the dropout.
is there any reason why these original type savers are not used?

andy
ps this is not a dig at the fine restos out there, just curious thats all

[thecrooch]

http://www.helixbmx.net/dropouts.htm

whether these are better or not i dont know, but you can buy direct and he ships quickly.

[58 delray]

http://www.helixbmx.net/dropouts.htm

whether these are better or not i dont know, but you can buy direct and he ships quickly.

not after any mate, just curious thats all,

andy

[Redline]

i would imagine that people use those long saver to cover up damage already done to the dropouts. I personally do as much work as I can to get dropouts on my builds looking mint then just use nylon washers instead. Personally I don't like to look of those long dropout savers!

J

[meticulous]

as john says, to cover up damage drop outs or as in my case, protect the paint and alloy, the thick alloy can easily crush when tightened...

[trasher]

i use them on my ripper ,,for riding ,,you cant tighten up the nylon washer enough for riding ,and because the rippers alloy then the savers save the dropouts

personally i like them on rippers 

[moley]

I have a PK Ripper XL that I want to use for riding and I want to use Chain tensioners!!

It looks like I have to use the drop out savers on the rear to pad the axle. I have two Washers with the insert (like a top hat). 

How can I use chain tensioners with them?

Ideally I'd like to get the washers on the inside of the frame to allow the chaintensioners to be used on the outside (but I dont think that will be possible)!!

Do you see what I mean?





I haven't build it yet and it is a later model OS legal Ripper but it looks similar to the piccys.

So how do I pad the axle and use chain tensioners? 

[HEYWOOD BMX]

  Won`t the chain tensioners protect the frame,especially if you use alloy ones?

[moley]

Won`t the chain tensioners protect the frame,especially if you use alloy ones?

Yeah but isn't the axle smaller in diameter than the dropout.

I've never had a PK before but I thought thats why the dropout savers are tophats, so that they fill the gap!!

[meticulous]

think they are top hats to keep the wheel central, other wise the narrow guage axle has a lot of play, i used chain tensioners on my pibull ripper but has to be the first washer and the narrow washer that comes with the chain tensioner digs into the frame, i never tried using top hats but think with all these washer you wont have room to put the nut on, besides the top hat washers also have a very narrow washer part that damages the frame...