Author Topic: mongoose pro class spoke size (Read 4409 times)

oldschoolib · « **on:** October 22, 2009, 12:45 PM »

need to know spoke size for a set of american imported proclass rims with standard hubs, thanks in advance for any replies

bobafett · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2009, 03:14 PM »

Quote from: oldschoolib on October 22, 2009, 12:45 PM

standard hubs

?

Elaborate on the hubs mate

NORTY40 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2009, 03:26 PM »

If the hubs are Suzue small flange size then 194mm with a 4 cross lace , if they are large flange 184mm ( 3 cross lace ) or 192mm with a 4 cross lace

I will double check later but ideally like Jongoose ^ says above we need to know what hubs they are

oldschoolib · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2009, 04:09 PM »

the hubs are sr sealed k 84 front and sr sealed c 85 rear, the rear is bigger than the front, ive never noticed that before

oldschoolib · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2009, 04:11 PM »

after hours on bmx museum i found out that they were 3 star laced to make them stronger

so any help will be gladly used

matt · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2009, 05:21 PM »

Quote from: NORTY40 on October 22, 2009, 03:26 PM

If the hubs are Suzue small flange size then 194mm with a 4 cross lace , if they are large flange 184mm ( 3 cross lace ) or 192mm with a 4 cross lace

I will double check later but ideally like Jongoose ^ says above we need to know what hubs they are

does this mean you are a proffessional wheel builder johnathon, as i have some that need doing and im shite at it.
and you need 194 my man with those hubs

bobafett · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2009, 07:36 PM »

The pro-class on my blue-max build have SR hubs

They are complete survivor wheels with matching SR hubs stamped "H 85"

Not 100% on measuring spokes but measuring directly from the hub hole to the rim :

FRONT = 194mm

REAR = 192mm

The wheel builders on here may be able to translate those measurements into spokes for you as i don't know if the spoke length includes all of the nipple / part of the nipple etc.

oldschoolib · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2009, 07:56 PM »

any idea who to ask, who are the wheel gurus on here

NORTY40 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2009, 08:22 PM »

Quote from: bobafett on October 22, 2009, 07:36 PM

The pro-class on my blue-max build have SR hubs

They are complete survivor wheels with matching SR hubs stamped "H 85"

Not 100% on measuring spokes but measuring directly from the hub hole to the rim :

FRONT = 194mm

REAR = 192mm

The wheel builders on here may be able to translate those measurements into spokes for you as i don't know if the spoke length includes all of the nipple / part of the nipple etc.

The problem we are having here John is that oldschoolib has one hub (small flange) and the other one is in between a small flange and a large flange

I have PM'd him a spoke calculator but you need to take certain measurements of the hub and the rim and input them in the calculator , it's like being back at school.

All this talk of 'flanges' is doing my head in

Quote from: matskybeat on October 22, 2009, 05:21 PM

Quote from: NORTY40 on October 22, 2009, 03:26 PM
If the hubs are Suzue small flange size then 194mm with a 4 cross lace , if they are large flange 184mm ( 3 cross lace ) or 192mm with a 4 cross lace

I will double check later but ideally like Jongoose ^ says above we need to know what hubs they are

does this mean you are a proffessional wheel builder johnathon, as i have some that need doing and im shite at it.
and you need 194 my man with those hubs

I wouldn't say that mate , I can build them it's the truing i struggle with

None of my bikes i have built have been riders so it has not bothered me up to now.

If you want me to lace them though I will

Seeing it's you and the little favours you have done for me

NORTY40 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2009, 08:25 PM »

I am sure it's Stidds who is the wheel expert on here $:-\$

oldschoolib · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2009, 08:43 PM »

ill give stidds a quick see where that goes and try what you sent me
nice one

NORTY40 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 22, 2009, 08:52 PM »

Quote from: oldschoolib on October 22, 2009, 08:43 PM

ill give stidds a quick see where that goes and try what you sent me
nice one

Feel free to ring me and i will talk you through the measurements you need to take

Failing that I will bring my digital calipers with me when I collect the little ones Goose and I will work it out for you

bobafett · « **Reply #12 on:** October 22, 2009, 09:07 PM »

Quote from: NORTY40 on October 22, 2009, 08:22 PM

The problem we are having here John is that oldschoolib has one hub (small flange) and the other one is in between a small flange and a large flange

Like I said my hubs on the set of pro class I measured are SR as well - the front hub measures (edge to edge) approx 50mm and the rear (egde to edge) is 60mm approx. - can't see any reason why these others would be different.

And as I mentioned it's 194mm front and 192mm rear measurement from hub hole to rim edge

oldschoolib · « **Reply #13 on:** October 22, 2009, 09:18 PM »

nice one bobba ill have a quick measure but i think from what you said that sounds about right if i hit any troubles john will come with his instruments and well see where that takes us
super happy with the replies and info provided many thanks

NORTY40 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 22, 2009, 09:20 PM »

Quote from: bobafett on October 22, 2009, 09:07 PM

Quote from: NORTY40 on October 22, 2009, 08:22 PM

The problem we are having here John is that oldschoolib has one hub (small flange) and the other one is in between a small flange and a large flange

Like I said my hubs on the set of pro class I measured are SR as well - the front hub measures (edge to edge) approx 50mm and the rear (egde to edge) is 60mm approx. - can't see any reason why these others would be different.

And as I mentioned it's 194mm front and 192mm rear measurement from hub hole to rim edge

Sorry John didnt realise your hubs where diferent sizes too , thought yours were both the same size

Seeing your the expert , those pro class you want doing ........ do' em yourself

bobafett · « **Reply #15 on:** October 22, 2009, 09:32 PM »

Quote from: NORTY40 on October 22, 2009, 09:20 PM

Seeing your the expert , those pro class you want doing ........ do' em yourself

May as fookin well - look how long it's taken ya to sort them cranks out

Quote from: oldschoolib on October 22, 2009, 09:18 PM

any troubles NORTY40 will come with his instruments and well see where that takes us

Just be carefull of that vibrating one he keeps next to his spoke keys mate

NORTY40 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 22, 2009, 10:01 PM »

Quote from: bobafett on October 22, 2009, 09:32 PM

May as fookin well - look how long it's taken ya to sort them cranks out

Not the ones I ebayed the other day

Quote from: bobafett on October 22, 2009, 09:32 PM

Just be carefull of that vibrating one he keeps next to his spoke keys mate

Just ignore him mate , he is only jealous

Hopefully your sorted now

currio · « **Reply #17 on:** October 23, 2009, 10:40 AM »

John, do you have any pictures of Jonathon and his vibrating instruments ??

bobafett · « **Reply #18 on:** October 23, 2009, 10:48 AM »

Quote from: currio on October 23, 2009, 10:40 AM

John, do you have any pictures of Jonathon and his vibrating instruments ??

photoshop moment....................

wirewheel · « **Reply #19 on:** November 01, 2009, 01:41 PM »

hey ian take em up to your local specialist bmx shop alphabmx hope street.

i will be able to sort them out for you matey no problem, i am sure they will be 184 rear and 186 front with a 3 cross pattern. i'm pretty sure they wouldn't have been laced 4 cross on a machine in a bike factory? as a builder of many wheels old and new school, i am most interested in the history of when 4 cross was first used in a bmx wheel. i find 3 cross is just as strong as 4 cross in practice as long as you keep them spokes nice and tight, and with 3 cross its a lot easier to replace the spoke as they dont cross the spoke holes on the hub.

Author Topic: mongoose pro class spoke size (Read 4409 times)

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