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Offline oldschoolib

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acs z rim spoke size
« on: October 14, 2009, 11:35 AM »
can anyone tell me the exact size spokes i need two people have told me two different sizes

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 11:41 AM »
What hubs are you using with them ?
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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 12:51 PM »
I use 194mm spokes with small flange hubs  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 01:47 PM »
I used 184s with high flange hubs.  Well my wheel builder did ;D  Make sure you get long nipples  >:D as Z rims are a lot thicker than alloy/steel rims and short nips struggle to reach the threads 8)

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 07:22 PM »
ive got two sets to built both with acs hubs, thanks for the replies will defo use long nipples  :2funny:

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 08:45 PM »
deffo 194's with acs hubs

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 09:19 PM »
thanks for the replies

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2009, 09:36 AM »
Not wanting to confuse things but is the info provided 100%?

...I built up some Zeds recently (using Acs hubs) and after speaking to Stidds and taking measurements I bought and built them up, using 182 length spokes??  Bear in mind that zeds have that raised centre on the rim and that was what made the length shorter than I expected.  Just throwing that out there to avoid any chance of getting the wrong thing like  :)

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2009, 10:11 AM »
Not wanting to confuse things but is the info provided 100%?

...I built up some Zeds recently (using Acs hubs) and after speaking to Stidds and taking measurements I bought and built them up, using 182 length spokes??  Bear in mind that zeds have that raised centre on the rim and that was what made the length shorter than I expected.  Just throwing that out there to avoid any chance of getting the wrong thing like  :)

The guy who built my wheels does it for a living so I'm 100% sure he knows what he is talking about.

He used 184s...

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 10:31 AM »
It all depends on the pattern you use, either a 3 cross or 4 cross. Obviously a 4 cross pattern would require longer spokes i.e. 194mm  :daumenhoch:

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2009, 10:50 AM »


The guy who built my wheels does it for a living so I'm 100% sure he knows what he is talking about.

He used 184s...
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Impressive as that is I built my own with my own eyes and hands and so there was probably less chance of a communication breakdown or mistake as a result.

I used 182s for a 3 cross lace...

To be fair you could probably get away with 184s  :LolLolLolLol:

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2009, 10:18 PM »
this not helping from the post ive got 194 , 184 and 182 i starated with 2 now ive got 3 come on please whats the standard anyone out there ive got 2 sets of rims and 4 sets of hubs i need these spoked

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2009, 11:21 PM »
this not helping from the post ive got 194 , 184 and 182 i starated with 2 now ive got 3 come on please whats the standard anyone out there ive got 2 sets of rims and 4 sets of hubs i need these spoked

It all depends on what size the hubs are and what lacing pattern you intend to do.

If you have a set of vernier calipers and a tape measure then I can let know the measurements that are needed to be taken.  When you have the measurements I can calculate the exact spoke length needed as I did with bigsman.

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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2009, 11:38 PM »
Sorry to throw an other spanner in the works but don't you also need "washers" on the inside of the rims as well  ???

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=70280.0
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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2009, 05:57 AM »
I rebuilt my 36 spoke mike buff z-rims with small flange ACS hubs with 4 cross pattern using a 184mm spoke using the original long spoke nipples. I just about got away with it (the spokes were too short) but would not recommend you use this combination of spokes with 4 cross. I didn't have washers as the original wheels came without them.

So if you have acs small flange hus and want to go 3 cross then 182mm or 184mm is the length you want (there is so little difference in the length it won't really matter too much), and if you're going 4 cross 194mm is the length you want  :daumenhoch:
« Last Edit: October 16, 2009, 06:02 AM by Faze7-Ade »

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2009, 10:06 AM »

So if you have acs small flange hus and want to go 3 cross then 182mm or 184mm is the length you want (there is so little difference in the length it won't really matter too much), and if you're going 4 cross 194mm is the length you want  :daumenhoch:

What that man said  :daumenhoch:

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Re: acs z rim spoke size
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2009, 06:49 PM »
ok im going to go with 184s long nipples 3 star on 1 and 4 star on the others cheers for the heads up fellas

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