acs z rim spoke size

[oldschoolib]

can anyone tell me the exact size spokes i need two people have told me two different sizes

[Peter J]

What hubs are you using with them ?

[phantom photon]

I use 194mm spokes with small flange hubs 

[ozone]

I used 184s with high flange hubs.  Well my wheel builder did   Make sure you get long nipples  as Z rims are a lot thicker than alloy/steel rims and short nips struggle to reach the threads

[oldschoolib]

ive got two sets to built both with acs hubs, thanks for the replies will defo use long nipples 

[rollin72]

deffo 194's with acs hubs

[oldschoolib]

thanks for the replies

[bigsman]

Not wanting to confuse things but is the info provided 100%?

...I built up some Zeds recently (using Acs hubs) and after speaking to Stidds and taking measurements I bought and built them up, using 182 length spokes??  Bear in mind that zeds have that raised centre on the rim and that was what made the length shorter than I expected.  Just throwing that out there to avoid any chance of getting the wrong thing like 

[ozone]

Not wanting to confuse things but is the info provided 100%?

...I built up some Zeds recently (using Acs hubs) and after speaking to Stidds and taking measurements I bought and built them up, using 182 length spokes??  Bear in mind that zeds have that raised centre on the rim and that was what made the length shorter than I expected.  Just throwing that out there to avoid any chance of getting the wrong thing like 

The guy who built my wheels does it for a living so I'm 100% sure he knows what he is talking about.

He used 184s...

[phantom photon]

It all depends on the pattern you use, either a 3 cross or 4 cross. Obviously a 4 cross pattern would require longer spokes i.e. 194mm 

[bigsman]

The guy who built my wheels does it for a living so I'm 100% sure he knows what he is talking about.

He used 184s...
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Impressive as that is I built my own with my own eyes and hands and so there was probably less chance of a communication breakdown or mistake as a result.

I used 182s for a 3 cross lace...

To be fair you could probably get away with 184s 

[oldschoolib]

this not helping from the post ive got 194 , 184 and 182 i starated with 2 now ive got 3 come on please whats the standard anyone out there ive got 2 sets of rims and 4 sets of hubs i need these spoked

[stidds]

this not helping from the post ive got 194 , 184 and 182 i starated with 2 now ive got 3 come on please whats the standard anyone out there ive got 2 sets of rims and 4 sets of hubs i need these spoked

It all depends on what size the hubs are and what lacing pattern you intend to do.

If you have a set of vernier calipers and a tape measure then I can let know the measurements that are needed to be taken.  When you have the measurements I can calculate the exact spoke length needed as I did with bigsman.

[Peter J]

Sorry to throw an other spanner in the works but don't you also need "washers" on the inside of the rims as well 

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=70280.0

[Faze7-Ade]

I rebuilt my 36 spoke mike buff z-rims with small flange ACS hubs with 4 cross pattern using a 184mm spoke using the original long spoke nipples. I just about got away with it (the spokes were too short) but would not recommend you use this combination of spokes with 4 cross. I didn't have washers as the original wheels came without them.

So if you have acs small flange hus and want to go 3 cross then 182mm or 184mm is the length you want (there is so little difference in the length it won't really matter too much), and if you're going 4 cross 194mm is the length you want 

[phantom photon]

So if you have acs small flange hus and want to go 3 cross then 182mm or 184mm is the length you want (there is so little difference in the length it won't really matter too much), and if you're going 4 cross 194mm is the length you want 

What that man said 

[oldschoolib]

ok im going to go with 184s long nipples 3 star on 1 and 4 star on the others cheers for the heads up fellas