Question for the Haro boys...

[Swivel]

Are the early frames powdercoated or wet coated? Chatting with Dan recently, we were talking about the 84/85 Haro's and Dan seems to think that they were wet coated as it was too early for powdering really, especially with some of the finishes his seen on the original paint versions. So does anyone know if they were they wet coated or powdered? I think the later ones are but if anyone can shed some light on it, that'll be great, ta.

Matt 

[meticulous]

does he mean too early for haro to be using powder, think it would be very difficult to wet paint millions of frames accurately, unless they were dipped, but that would be too expensive....

[Swivel]

Sam yeah, I think that's what Dan said, basically too early for haro to be using powdercoating, especially of the standards his seen on some of the early frames. Although, they might have been powdered, one of the haro bof's on here should know

[Gary72]

Stalk Bob on facebook and ask him

[Swivel]

I do already Gaz 

[neiljonarcus]

I THINK DEFFO PAINT IT CHIPS OFF TO EASY FOR POWDER PLUS  "shit cap locks " the neon red and green  is a dual coat system

[superbikedan]

i'm just not convinved that many of the bikes where powdered, i only know this

by when i strip them, you can clearly see a base coat/primer then a top coat,

powder has really only took over the industrial finish in the last 20 years,

although powder has been going on for many years it wasnt the prefered

finish

[MartyC]

My NOS 85 HARO is deffo wet painted and is not a powder, however I can confirm that bike companies were using powder coating bitd as it was a selling point for the Scorpion range of bikes....

[pickle]

i think DP used to powder there frames from what i can remember of their adverts 

[Redline]

I could be wrong but I think most of the early paint jobs were 'wet"!

How many times have we heard people trying to match an old school colour with powder with no luck

... if it's a struggle to match a colour to a powder now then I very much doubt that there was a powder back then 

John

[superbikedan]

I could be wrong but I think most of the early paint jobs were 'wet"!

How many times have we heard people trying to match an old school colour with powder with no luck

... if it's a struggle to match a colour to a powder now then I very much doubt that there was a powder back then 

John

there was powder in the 80s, infact it's been used since the 60s but only in basic colours, i think

many of the early 80s frames that where powdered are in the basic colours, ie black,white red ect

that's why it so hard to copy the haro greens ect,   

[Redline]

I could be wrong but I think most of the early paint jobs were 'wet"!

How many times have we heard people trying to match an old school colour with powder with no luck

... if it's a struggle to match a colour to a powder now then I very much doubt that there was a powder back then 

John

there was powder in the 80s, infact it's been used since the 60s but only in basic colours, i think

many of the early 80s frames that where powdered are in the basic colours, ie black,white red ect

that's why it so hard to copy the haro greens ect,   

yeh Dan.. I know it was around..... but take the Redline red or yellow for example.... not seen a powder nowadays to exactly match it - so if there isn't a powder now then I would doubt there was a powder back then so does it stand to reason that it was a wet paint?

From memory it chipped easily too and was easily removed with nitromors and I didn't think nitromors would touch powder?

.... just an observation fella as I know you're the man when it comes to painting so I wouldn't doubt your expertise or judgement dude 

[superbikedan]

I could be wrong but I think most of the early paint jobs were 'wet"!

How many times have we heard people trying to match an old school colour with powder with no luck

... if it's a struggle to match a colour to a powder now then I very much doubt that there was a powder back then 

John

there was powder in the 80s, infact it's been used since the 60s but only in basic colours, i think

many of the early 80s frames that where powdered are in the basic colours, ie black,white red ect

that's why it so hard to copy the haro greens ect,   

yeh Dan.. I know it was around..... but take the Redline red or yellow for example.... not seen a powder nowadays to exactly match it - so if there isn't a powder now then I would doubt there was a powder back then so does it stand to reason that it was a wet paint?

From memory it chipped easily too and was easily removed with nitromors and I didn't think nitromors would touch powder?

.... just an observation fella as I know you're the man when it comes to painting so I wouldn't doubt your expertise or judgement dude 

your bang on mate powder can be matched but very very expensive,  wet paint colour sampling is cheap,

a small 1litre of paint, add a bit more colour untill your happy and that's it, colour ready to go

this is why i think many of the colours outside the standard colour range where wet paint.

many peeps say about cost and speed of powder but we use pressure pot guns for wet paints that

are faster than powder guns

[JAY]

Matt, Both the USA and Tai 84 framesets have grey primer underneath the paint, Don't know what type of paint it is though.The Torker frames always seem to be well painted, but the Tai frames barely have any paint on as you can see the grey primer though the top coat.
Like i've said,i'm not sure what type of paint they used, but would be interested to know, or if there is a way of telling the type of paint used.

[superbikedan]

Matt, Both the USA and Tai 84 framesets have grey primer underneath the paint, Don't know what type of paint it is though.The Torker frames always seem to be well painted, but the Tai frames barely have any paint on as you can see the grey primer though the top coat.
Like i've said,i'm not sure what type of paint they used, but would be interested to know, or if there is a way of telling the type of paint used.

jay one things for sure is that the old paint will be lead based so you wont be able to copy

that excatly but a colours a colour so with todays paint systems you will get it copied

spot on

no colour is out of reach of being copied, mattdubs ghp is a prime example of colour

matching in wet paint

[JAY]

Thanks for the info Dan, I've never had anything painted or powdered for a very long time, but if i was to restore any 84 Haro, i'd go for paint and if it could be grey primered, even better.
Yeah Matts GHP looked awsome, great job