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I quite like the top one, if the price is right I dont see a problem with them.
I reckon the new dropouts/seatstay junction on the Floval/Ripper is an improvement.Don`t see the point in US bottom brackets on the loopy frames is necessary.The frames themselves aren`t too bad,just reckon the price is way too high & the components are generic crap.So near yet still so far.
Quad 24&Loopy Rippers,£600.Regular PK £450-500 & Floval £430