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Just thought i would show the difference between Mongoose Eric Rupe 87 F+F and Mongoose Pro Class 83 F+F in pics. When you look at the Mongoose frames they look almost the same but close up there are quiet alot of differences. Thought it would be best to see the differences in pics than try to explain in words, enjoy. ;)

PS Is there anyone who can help me get the pro class re-chromed, thanks :daumenhoch:
























« Last Edit: June 26, 2009, 03:21 PM by jimmyp »

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Re: MONGOOSE ERIC RUPE Vs MONGOOSE PRO CLASS
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2009, 01:04 AM »
Nice side by side pics jim  :coolsmiley:

I wonder if ALL those differences are the same with the earlier rupe ?
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2009, 01:15 AM »
Nice side by side pics jim  :coolsmiley:

I wonder if ALL those differences are the same with the earlier rupe ?

Should be exactly the same except for the rear brake bridge :daumenhoch:

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Re: MONGOOSE ERIC RUPE Vs MONGOOSE PRO CLASS
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2009, 01:15 AM »
Nice side by side pics jim  :coolsmiley:
I wonder if ALL those differences are the same with the earlier rupe ?
Should be exactly the same except for the rear brake bridge :daumenhoch:

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Re: MONGOOSE ERIC RUPE Vs MONGOOSE PRO CLASS
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2009, 08:22 AM »
Wow!, I'd love a goose :smitten: they do come round pretty cheap if you buy as frame and forks, Stodgy is selling a Cali for £85! :shocked: :smitten: My kinda price range! but an MK bike is what i need at the mo so the 'Goose dream will have to wait to the Winter...

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Re: MONGOOSE ERIC RUPE Vs MONGOOSE PRO CLASS
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 09:14 AM »
What does the TT length come in at on the Rupe then jim ? Looks like it's pushing for 20" or so :-\
Bet it'd be lovely to race - but I doubt we'll see you thrashing it round MK  :LolLolLolLol:
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Re: MONGOOSE ERIC RUPE Vs MONGOOSE PRO CLASS
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2009, 09:18 AM »
What does the TT length come in at on the Rupe then jim ? Looks like it's pushing for 20" or so :-\
Bet it'd be lovely to race - but I doubt we'll see you thrashing it round MK  :LolLolLolLol:

19.5 for the Rupe, 18.5 for the Pro Class  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2009, 09:27 AM »
What does the TT length come in at on the Rupe then jim ? Looks like it's pushing for 20" or so :-\
Bet it'd be lovely to race - but I doubt we'll see you thrashing it round MK  :LolLolLolLol:
19.5 for the Rupe, 18.5 for the Pro Class  :daumenhoch:

Just 1" difference hey - looks a tad more in the pics - optical illusion :D cool  :daumenhoch:
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2009, 09:49 AM »
Jimmy what you after for the Pro Class, Black chrome, or chrome ?? i can get em both done for you but it'l cost you your soul  >:D

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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2009, 10:00 AM »
Jimmy what you after for the Pro Class, Black chrome, or chrome ?? i can get em both done for you but it'l cost you your soul  >:D

Chrome m8, thanks  :-\

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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2009, 10:01 AM »
Gis a ring at the weekend Jimmy, if you can hold on till early next month i will take it to my guys 150 f&f they strip and prep  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2009, 11:24 AM »
A couple of rather tastey frames there

interesting to see the differences  :daumenhoch:
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2009, 11:35 AM »
Gis a ring at the weekend Jimmy, if you can hold on till early next month i will take it to my guys 150 f&f they strip and prep  :daumenhoch:

Will do m8, thanks  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2009, 06:01 PM »
is the pro class like the 83 supergoose usa ?

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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2009, 06:18 PM »
is the pro class like the 83 supergoose usa ?

From the outside the geometry is very similar mate but the pro-class is a lot lighter due to it's thin-wall tubing. There are some suttle differences to help spot the difference  :coolsmiley:
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2009, 07:36 PM »
that rupe is sexy as fook :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2009, 12:21 AM »
I suppose the best ways to spot an Eric Rupe are  :daumenhoch:



1) Different brake bridge, only like that on 86 rupes onwards upto 1989. 1985 Eric Rupes have the same brake bridge as the pro class in the pic, look for the other difference's on these frames  8)




2) Thick top tube the same thickness as the down tube.  8)




3) 19.5 inch TT length, all other goose models are 18.5 inch top tube  8)




4) The seat tube is alot taller on the rupe than any other mongoose model  8)



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Re: MONGOOSE ERIC RUPE Vs MONGOOSE PRO CLASS
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2009, 03:05 AM »
Good post Jimmy  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2009, 08:57 PM »
hey guys-

I know it's a pain to ship back n fourth to the states, but there is a chomer here that does amazing work!  Chrome, black chrome, tinted chrome, etc.  I am attaching thier site, so check out their work:

www.rbchroming.com


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Re: MONGOOSE ERIC RUPE 87 Vs ERIC RUPE 88 Vs MONGOOSE PRO CLASS 83
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2009, 03:43 PM »
OK Guys the plot thickens so bare with me, fooking mongoose  :LolLolLolLol:

I just got this 1988 Mongoose Eric Rupe although its stickerd as an 86. Putting the frames together ive noticed some slight differences to the 87 Mongoose Eric Rupe model i have.  :-\ :-\ ??? ???

First difference is the rear brake bridge is slightly lower on the 88 model. Second difference is the seat tube stick's out about 1cm further on the 88 model as well. Also the 88 model didn't come with a metal head badge. I was wondering if other people with these F+F could measure their's and see what measurements are, thanks dudes  :daumenhoch:

Please see pics below  ;)

88 MODEL ERIC RUPE WITH 86 DECAL SET ON









LOWER BRAKE BRIDGE, 88 MODEL ON THE LEFT, 87 MODEL ON THE RIGHT





HIGHER SEAT TUBE, ABOUT 1CM HIGHER, 87 MODEL ON THE LEFT, 88 MODEL ON THE RIGHT



88 MODEL SEAT TUBE MEASURMENT



87 MODEL SEAT TUBE MEASURMENT



Any help welcome, thanks dudes  ;)

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Re: MONGOOSE ERIC RUPE 87 Vs ERIC RUPE 88 Vs MONGOOSE PRO CLASS 83
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2009, 03:48 PM »

mongoose did it on purpose to mess with your head jimmy  :D

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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2009, 04:53 PM »
Well at least you don't have to worry about the decals any more jim - since you've got a frame with each now  :LolLolLolLol:
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2009, 04:55 PM »
Well at least you don't have to worry about the decals any more jim - since you've got a frame with each now  :LolLolLolLol:

 ;) :daumenhoch: :LolLolLolLol:

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Re: MONGOOSE ERIC RUPE 87 Vs ERIC RUPE 88 Vs MONGOOSE PRO CLASS 83
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2009, 03:47 PM »
OK...here we go...measurements as requested.

In order...

                                              Brake Bridge               Seat Stay                Rear Drop thickness

1982 Pro Class (x2)                     10.8                           3.3                                 1.75

1983 Pro Class (x2)                     10.5                           3.3                                 1.75

1983 Supergoose (x4)                 11.2                           3.5                                   2

1984 Eric Rupe                            10                              4.2                                  1.5

1985 Eric Rupe (x2)                     10.3                           4.7                                  1.75

1987 Eric Rupe                            10                              5.5                                   3












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Re: MONGOOSE ERIC RUPE 87 Vs ERIC RUPE 88 Vs MONGOOSE PRO CLASS 83
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2009, 03:54 PM »
The 1982 frames seem to be the only ones to sport this type of brake bridge...here is an '83 on the left and a '82 on the right.  (Pro Class)

Although you can find some 1982's with all circles or ovals...as pictured above by my other 1982 Pro Class.


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