Author Topic: Dialled Expert (Read 2670 times)

GAV_W · « **on:** March 05, 2009, 10:21 AM »

Chris's new expert - pics don't do the colour/finish justice. Might have to get it out in the sunlight later!!
Just needs some brake adapters to run the 1 3/8" rims now to finish it off - if anyone has a set for sale (or some calipers with long pad adjustment) let me know.

thecrooch · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2009, 10:22 AM »

liking that alot....

dodger · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2009, 10:27 AM »

wikid that looks bad ass im liking that allot wish i had one of those when growing up

dialledbikes · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2009, 03:09 PM »

Nice one Gav. Good to see the first of the little uns built up.

KGB Matt · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2009, 03:48 PM »

Very nice indeed.

Hoping Nick will still be riding when expert size is needed as that is Mint.

Matt

dialledbikes · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2009, 06:19 PM »

Gav, if you don't get any joy sourcing those brake mount adaptors in the UK, then it looks like you can buy them direct from Avent/Bomshell on their website:

http://www.bombshellparts.com/shop/Bombshell-BrakeParts.html

proclass35 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2009, 07:23 PM »

Very nice that. I didn't know Dialled were doing the smaller sizes, looks quality.
Have you had a look at the LDC or Pauls Components brakes?- they have quite a long reach and work very well.

dialledbikes · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2009, 07:55 PM »

Only just started doing the Expert (19" TT) and Expert XL (19.75" TT) this year after Tre Whyte and Brad Spick rode the prototype for the last 2 seasons.

Would like to do all the smaller sizes eventually, but doesn't really work out that well economically when parents can buy a perfectly capable complete bike for under £400 and my frames cost £299. So for the time being, I think Expert is the smallest size I will do. Really happy with the way they've turned out though.

Shows how BMX has changed into an "adult sport" when a 19" TT is Expert these days and back in our day Pros were riding 18.5" top tubes

groover247 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2009, 08:05 PM »

Gav,

Go on the bay and search for an odyssey A brake.

There were loads of em going cheap not long back and they have masses of brake adjustment. I have used them in the past for the conversion.

Just remember to grease the bolts and use a decent allen key when installing. I may even have a spae one in the shed.

sutty

dialledbikes · « **Reply #9 on:** March 05, 2009, 08:32 PM »

Gav, if Sutty's got an A-brake you can try, I would do that before spending money on one as when we tried it on Brad Spick's prototype with 1&3/8ths it still didn't have enough reach. That's what motivated me to use removable v-brake posts on the production versions so people could use whatever wheels they like plus those little Avent VPS gadgets. The brake mounts are positioned for use with 1.5"/1.75" rims.

GAV_W · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2009, 09:08 PM »

Funny you should mention the A brake - spoke about it tonight at the track & Ged has one in his box that he's bringing on Saturday to try - I had one & looking at the side profile pics there may be a little more material that could be machined out if needed, at £4.99 a pop it wont matter if it goes wrong!!! Failing that it's the states direct.
Cheers for the advice........

proclass35 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2009, 09:39 PM »

Quote from: mike@dialledbikes on March 05, 2009, 07:55 PM

Only just started doing the Expert (19" TT) and Expert XL (19.75" TT) this year after Tre Whyte and Brad Spick rode the prototype for the last 2 seasons.

Would like to do all the smaller sizes eventually, but doesn't really work out that well economically when parents can buy a perfectly capable complete bike for under £400 and my frames cost £299. So for the time being, I think Expert is the smallest size I will do. Really happy with the way they've turned out though.

Shows how BMX has changed into an "adult sport" when a 19" TT is Expert these days and back in our day Pros were riding 18.5" top tubes

You could be missing a trick there Mike. If you look at all the younger classes at the Nationals, there's very few riders on stock bikes, in fact I'd say the majority are on custom builds, and most people (us included) are changing frames every year to get the size just right. I know one kid who rode 4 different frames last year! You're also far more likely to find a 30+ year old dad with the money to spend on this sort of kit than a teenager or somebody in their 20's. Seeing as most U.S frames are coming in at £400+ in this category I'd say yours looks like good value.
I know what you mean about top-tube length though- I'm building Finn's new bike up for next season, he's 8, and the TT length is the same as my old 'pro' size bike from the eighties!

dialledbikes · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2009, 10:15 PM »

Thanks for that info Proclass. Very insightful. I just assumed most people who bought minis and juniors bought complete bikes (like me). Don't really intend to buy my lad a custom build until he's big enough to ride one of my Experts.

I only got 10 of each Expert and Expert XL made, so maybe it won't take too long to shift them after all.

KGB Matt · « **Reply #13 on:** March 06, 2009, 07:14 AM »

Mike

Nicholas has moved off of his mini and is now on a junior Intense Podium custom built to fit him

..... the frame cost a lot more than yours do, but when he saw the one in the piccys he wanted one there and then..... till i told him it was an Expert size.

I do believe that if you get smaller sizes made up people will buy them.

Matt

dialledbikes · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2009, 07:21 AM »

Thanks for the vote of confidence Matt.

I'll see how the Experts go.

GAV_W · « **Reply #15 on:** March 11, 2009, 08:19 AM »

Tried the A brake idea - not quite enough adjustment but managed to get hold of the VPS adaptors from the States & they were shipped yesterday so should be up & running next week hopefully!

pickle · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2009, 08:43 AM »

looks really cool! but how big do those cranks look on it

KGB Matt · « **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2009, 04:48 PM »

Gav.

How did you go about fitting the VPS adaptors as the ones i have for Chloe's bike do not seem to thread in far enough and there is a little rocking motion in the adaptor.

Matt

magna13 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 19, 2009, 09:39 PM »

Peter J · « **Reply #19 on:** May 19, 2009, 09:58 PM »

Mike why do all your bike look.......

Like Engineering Porn

dialledbikes · « **Reply #20 on:** May 20, 2009, 09:31 AM »

Quote from: Peter J on May 19, 2009, 09:58 PM

Mike why do all your bike look.......

Like Engineering Porn

Plain and simple, but functional (like me

)

I think good geometry and durability is more important that ultra lightweight and looking different for the sake of looking different.

Peter J · « **Reply #21 on:** May 20, 2009, 09:37 AM »

Good point......

KGB Matt · « **Reply #22 on:** May 21, 2009, 04:53 PM »

Me again

It would seem the thread on the brake posts and Dialled frame are different to the norm.( I have the VPS brake adapters and it does state that some bikes may be different.)

What are the general thread sizes and how do i go about getting new posts.

Thanks in advance

Matt

KGB Matt · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2009, 06:46 AM »

I have had contact from Avent/Bombshell and they say there are only two types of thread ...they supply their kit with the most common type but can supply the other posts and bolts if required.

Matt

Moschops · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2009, 07:48 AM »

would the 2 types be imperial and metric? just curious for future refrence.

Author Topic: Dialled Expert (Read 2670 times)

GAV_W

thecrooch

dodger

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GAV_W

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KGB Matt

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GAV_W

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KGB Matt

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Moschops