Author Topic: Got this today (Read 2583 times)

dice22 · « **on:** February 23, 2009, 03:51 PM »

Went on a 330 mile road trip this morning to pick up this an ammaco pro from Bournemouth got some great parts all orginal the guy said it had not turned a wheel for 20 years been just sat in his garage, not sure what to do with it restore or split as im taking the pro class wheels for my Mongoose.

MX1000 pro class

What bars are these simular to CW have a sticker on them

Renthal stem and mx clamp

All in all some nice bits on this one should i split it up or restore $:-\$

Swivel · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2009, 04:02 PM »

Nice, but the gusset doesn't have the holes cut out or anything embossed on it, from the looks of it? Also looks quite big and not as neat as the one I have here. may have had a repair done at some point?

Have a check. Otherwise very nice mate

zed4130 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2009, 04:07 PM »

very nice, and a 15 minute trip for me

magna13 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2009, 04:41 PM »

dannywhiteley · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2009, 04:54 PM »

Are those brakes DC? If so, wanna sell em?

bmxbob · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2009, 05:03 PM »

mmmm yummy

dice22 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2009, 08:40 PM »

Quote from: Swivel on February 23, 2009, 04:02 PM

Nice, but the gusset doesn't have the holes cut out or anything embossed on it, from the looks of it? Also looks quite big and not as neat as the one I have here. may have had a repair done at some point? Have a check. Otherwise very nice mate

Looked at the ammaco in the museam and the chrome ones have no cut outs or embosed areas on them maybe its chrome underneath

dice22 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2009, 08:41 PM »

Quote from: dannywhiteley on February 23, 2009, 04:54 PM

Are those brakes DC? If so, wanna sell em?

They are orginal MX1000 DC pro class mate may sell if i split it

dice22 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2009, 08:43 PM »

Anyone know what the bars are

dannywhiteley · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2009, 08:51 PM »

Quote from: dice22 on February 23, 2009, 08:41 PM

Quote from: dannywhiteley on February 23, 2009, 04:54 PM
Are those brakes DC? If so, wanna sell em?

They are orginal MX1000 DC pro class mate may sell if i split it

let me know mate

dice22 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2009, 09:13 PM »

will do mate

snav69 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2009, 09:34 PM »

Quote from: dice22 on February 23, 2009, 08:41 PM

Quote from: dannywhiteley on February 23, 2009, 04:54 PM
Are those brakes DC? If so, wanna sell em?

They are orginal MX1000 DC pro class mate may sell if i split it

The original Mongoose Pro Class calipers weren't made by Dia Compe if my memory servers me right $:-\$ i think they were lee chi $:-\$ . It looks like they are DC but with after market repro Pro Class decals

Don't quote me though

Swivel · « **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2009, 10:31 PM »

Hi mate. I have a chrome one here, all original. Has an embossed part on it. And others i've seen on ebay recently have the (| |) cut out of the gusset. Not seen many without to be honest.

Matt

Quote from: dice22 on February 23, 2009, 08:40 PM

Looked at the ammaco in the museam and the chrome ones have no cut outs or embosed areas on them maybe its chrome underneath

stuntmaster · « **Reply #13 on:** February 24, 2009, 07:24 AM »

cw bars are just copies ,there was loads out there bitd ,nice find anyway

djgivvinup · « **Reply #14 on:** February 24, 2009, 09:00 AM »

The original mongoose 'pro class' calipers were defo not Dia Compe, they were Lee Chi as Snav said

The bars are CW copies, i had a set of the same make 'hsin lung' on my Ammaco Team Pro survivor so they obviously used that brand bar on a few of their bikes..

And finally...if you end up splitting it can i have dib dobs on the Renthal seatpost please

Cheers matey

Swivel · « **Reply #15 on:** February 24, 2009, 09:19 AM »

Right, been doing a bit more research on these gussets. I still think that your gusset looks a bit chunky and not as neat as these ones pictured here. The gussets on the ammacos were the 1st thing to go BITD and many had repairs on them done. Ammaco Pros/Freestyler's were released with a gusset with the two holes cut out. These always cracked there when ridden hard. Ammaco fixed the problem with embossing the gusset and curving the metal underneath, like the Haro Gen 1 gusset. The metal used on the 2nd gen gusset was also thicker and stopped this problem happening.

Above is the piccy of my Ammaco with the embossed gusset...

See this image above to see what I mean about the cracking gussets....

Here are the photos from our own Museum. Notice the cut outs/embossing in the gussets.

Lastly, Daz's (ammaco daz's) version is the only one i've seen like yours where the gusset is solid and that is unusual and could be original, but who knows...?

Matt

bmxbob · « **Reply #16 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:10 AM »

Nice Detective work Swiv

4130HUBBS · « **Reply #17 on:** February 24, 2009, 01:50 PM »

RESTORATION.... ITS THE WAY 4WARD...

dice22 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 24, 2009, 06:36 PM »

Could be mega rare then with solid gusset guess i will find out when i strip the frame with nitromoss

dannywhiteley · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2009, 07:05 PM »

Im sure the plain solid gussets were a quick fix by Ammaco in response to all the cracked 'cut-out' gussets. An interim measure before the embossed gusset was developed.

Basically its a gen 1.5, midway between the more common cut out and embossed gussets. Makes sense why so few have surfaced, they wouldnt have been around for long.

dice22 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 24, 2009, 07:22 PM »

Quote from: dannywhiteley on February 24, 2009, 07:05 PM

Im sure the plain solid gussets were a quick fix by Ammaco in response to all the cracked 'cut-out' gussets. An interim measure before the embossed gusset was developed.

Basically its a gen 1.5, midway between the more common cut out and embossed gussets. Makes sense why so few have surfaced, they wouldnt have been around for long.

bigfatolly · « **Reply #21 on:** February 24, 2009, 10:39 PM »

ebay was it?

just down the road from me!

zed4130 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 25, 2009, 06:38 AM »

Quote from: bigfatolly on February 24, 2009, 10:39 PM

ebay was it?

just down the road from me!

me too and i missed it

Swivel · « **Reply #23 on:** February 25, 2009, 08:47 AM »

Dan can this be confirmed? Personally i've only seen about 3 or 4 frames like this in my time and most of the gussets all looked slightly different i.e. shape/welds etc.. nearly all of them looked like fix-up jobs.

Quote from: dannywhiteley on February 24, 2009, 07:05 PM

Im sure the plain solid gussets were a quick fix by Ammaco in response to all the cracked 'cut-out' gussets. An interim measure before the embossed gusset was developed.

Basically its a gen 1.5, midway between the more common cut out and embossed gussets. Makes sense why so few have surfaced, they wouldnt have been around for long.