Hope this helps mate
JUDGE 2
? Probably 19 or 19.5 inches. This bike is easy to spot because it doesn't have the Hutch logo pressed into the
brake bridge. Hutch was called Hutchins at this time. This bike also has extremely thick dropouts and an oversized top tube. Also, on both the Judge and the Judge 2 (and maybe the Hollywood? not sure) the top tube is not even with the seat stays where it welds to the seat tube. On these bikes it's slightly higher. The main differences between the original Judge and the Hollywood is that the original Judge has thicker dropouts and different geometry. I know the Judge bikes are slightly oval where the top tube meets the seat tube. It appears the Judge 2 frame was only made in 1990. The 91 catalog doesn't have it listed.
The Judge II. Here comes The Judge...again! The Judge II is a later version of the ever-popular Timmy Judge Hutch frame and fork. Heavy duty front and rear drop-outs, oversized top tube, an ovalized down tube,and 4310 chromoly.Heightstrength,low-weight (5lbs.12oz.)frame&fork in Pro and XL lengths.100% made in the USA. To read the test of the Judge II bike that was printed in BMX PLUS! issue October 1990,click on the link above!
According Mr.Coasterbrake from VBMX, none of the Judge II's had a stamped brake bridge. However, the first batch were made at the beginning of the "Hutch name lawsuit" and did come with the classic Hutch decals-including the "Judge series" seatstay decal in red-on-clear color combo. The earliest batch of Judge II's had the classic Hutch shape rear dropouts- kinda pointy at the ends. The later batches had rounded ends on the dropouts (a'la Profile shape). Actually, i was told by a Louisville Cycle rep that Profile was building some Hutchins products for them. I have a Hutchins cruiser that is exactly like a Profile in every detail except it doesn't have the middle tube in the front triangle.
Also, regardless of whether the name was Hutch or Hutchins at the time, none of the Judge II's were made under the "original" company ownership. They were all third generation...ie: 1) original Hutch 2) Taiwan generation 3) Louisville/Deltech generation.
In my opinion a real Judge frame was in white,but you could have them in different colors even in chrome.Later they made a Judge II frame. It was a refined version of the orginal Tim Judge signature series.
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