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Can someone answer this question.............PLEASE
« on: February 05, 2009, 02:13 PM »
I don't know if this should be in the O/S section, but it’s to do with THE RULES  :idiot2:

Ok...........if I race in the O/S Regional’s and at the Brits, can I wear and open face helmet with a Mouth Guard..............???
I might actually build a bike this year instead of just hoarding parts :)

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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2009, 02:26 PM »
Some tracks are ok with it... some are not! best to have a fullface spare with you ;)

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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2009, 02:34 PM »
But is there any where in the BCF rules that state you cannot ???

I've taken this from the BCF's rule book...........does anyone else know different ???

4.13.2   Helmets of either full face or open face construction are permitted. It is recommended that open face helmets should be equipped with mouth protectors. Helmets must cover the rider’s ears and provide protection to the back of the skull.  Ventilation holes only are permitted and they must not be large enough for any part of the cycle to penetrate the shell.  The securing straps must be securely tightened.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2009, 02:35 PM »
Why would you want to.......

Personally if you come off at any speed, go for a full face - You be glad if you do, an extra few quid for a jawbone....

Open face are great for dirt/jumping where the forward speed isn't excessive
« Last Edit: February 05, 2009, 02:36 PM by diesel »

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2009, 02:39 PM »
Diesel............Totally agree..........I'm not the most beautiful person on Gods earth  ;D ............as my misses say it’s only a face a mother could love......so I don't want to damage it !!!

But it’s just someone (no names) is saying they are banned...at regional and brits level.....

I read the rules on BCF's website..........but the debate still goes no  :uglystupid2:
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2009, 02:42 PM »
i personally believe they should be banned......open face helmets for racing?   :idiot2:

what the hell will that little bit of plastic mouth guard thing do when you face plant on a set of doubles?

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2009, 02:46 PM »
Pickle............Totally agree..........I'm not the most beautiful person on Gods earth   ............as my misses say it’s only a face a mother could love......so I don't want to damage it !!!

But it’s just someone (no names) is saying they are banned...at regional and brits level.....

I read the rules on BCF's website..........but the debate still goes no

I would'nt even wear an open face for park/street/dirt riding !!!!!!

BUT ARE THEY RACE LEGAL FOR REGIONAL AND BRITS ?
« Last Edit: February 05, 2009, 02:48 PM by Peter J »
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2009, 02:49 PM »
I use my Full Face Helmet regularly!!

The last time was at bradford when I face planted into the transition of the 1st set of doubles while practicing.

My head is fine (I think)!!  :crazy2:

I would have been injured with an open face helmet with a mouth guard!!  :(

Its not compulsory for Full Face Helmet at Club level in the North Region!!

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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 02:54 PM »
The BCF Rules state :-
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4.13   Clothing And Safety Equipment
4.13.1   Riders must wear the following gear whenever they are riding a bicycle on the track:
4.13.2   Helmets of either full face or open face construction are permitted. It is recommended that open face helmets should be equipped with mouth protectors. Helmets must cover the rider’s ears and provide protection to the back of the skull.  Ventilation holes only are permitted and they must not be large enough for any part of the cycle to penetrate the shell.  The securing straps must be securely tightened.
4.13.3   Long-sleeved shirts whose sleeves extend down to the rider’s wrists.
4.13.4   Long pants whose legs should not be loose fitting at the ankles. Short pants, with or without shin pads are not permitted.
4.13.5   Gloves whose fingers completely cover the rider’s fingertips.
4.13.6   Elbow pads or “sliders ‘ at any track whose riding surface consists of either wood or concrete.
4.13.7   It is recommended that riders wear trousers made of denim or other tear and abrasion resistant fabric, and footwear with soft flexible soles whenever they are riding a bicycle on the track. 

So your not forced to wear a full face helmet...........

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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2009, 02:55 PM »
Thats what I'd seen...........so I am right ???
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2009, 02:57 PM »
Yes!! you are right!!

Also........

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4.13.4   Long pants whose legs should not be loose fitting at the ankles. Short pants, with or without shin pads are not permitted.

I have seen many racers in short pants in the Summer Series!!  ???

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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2009, 03:00 PM »
Short pants  :idiot2:

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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2009, 03:05 PM »
I will be donning my usual..........

Full 661 Body Armour (With spine plate)

Kevlar Backed Gloves

Padded Shorts

Knee and shin pads

Ankle Supports

Fly Kinetic Jeans & Shirt

Goggles

and errrrrrrrrrrrr I'm sure there was something else.........................




Oh yer A FULL FACE HELMET

 :daumenhoch:
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2009, 09:44 AM »
Full face helmets is the rules now.  No open face allowed.

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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2009, 12:05 PM »
BCF haven't changed the rules in the BCF BMX Rules thingy!!

How do you know?


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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2009, 01:19 PM »
remember at daggers the first race of the summer series unkle buck giving a talk b4 racing started and he mentioned full face only from now on

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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2009, 01:24 PM »
i read somewhere, cant remember where but there was a case of this fella fell face first with his fullface helmet on but the mouth/face/jaw protector impaled in his face WTF!  :shocked:

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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2009, 04:30 PM »
I think this is where the confusion is coming from.... :tickedoff:.....the rule book says one thing........as per the info on BCF website..........but an official spokes person (no names given) is saying another.............. :uglystupid2:
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2009, 04:33 PM »
I think you would be wiser to use full face, rather than open. :daumenhoch:

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