what colour

[scott30]

hi all just got some black/gold ammaco decals from danny whiteley for my ammaco its currently red but needs a full resto so was wondering if any of you had any ideas what colour i should do it thanks scott

[phantom photon]

What ammaco is it 

[scott30]

here it is dont know what model it is got it off sawzall/phil awhile ago

[bobafett]

Looks like a goose to me mate 

Ammaco had a more sweeping gusset and different dropout (I think    )

Take a close up pic of the gusset and also underneath the bottom bracket (for the serial no.) and we'll tell ya for sure 

It's got the earlier dropouts so probs 79-81 ish if it is a goose.

[bobafett]

Just had another look and it looks in your pic that there is an extra brace weld off the bottom of the seat tube - earlier models of mongoose 76 ish had these but they looked different to the one on youre bike (more triangular with a hole in it) also the models that had these braces all had coaster tabs by the rear drop out - which yours doesn't have 
Hmmmm - try and get a close up pic of the welds on the gusset and a piccy of the serial on the BB if you can and we'll do some sherlock holmes 

[dannywhiteley]

hi all just got some black/gold ammaco decals from danny whiteley for my ammaco

News to me...?  Ive never sold any Ammaco decals.  You must have me mixed up with someone else.

[bobafett]

Done some more digging and still not sure  Back end looks all goose but there is something about the front gusset and that BB gusset that don't look quite right for a goose  - deffo like to see that serial number - i'm intrigued now 

[scott30]

sorry it was danlightening i got the decals off  sorry dannywhiteley  the bike is in the loft somewhere will dig it out on the weekend and get some more pics up

[GREMLIN]

I was gonna say that's a Puch Invader you have there.
Until I dug out a pic of my one I have here, and remembered what mine looks like before I banished it to the attic  .
The two frames do share a lot of similar parts tho, including the cut-out behind the bottom bracket for a kick stand  ...   G. 

[bobafett]

I was gonna say that's a Puch Invader you have there.
The two frames do share a lot of similar parts tho, including the cut-out behind the bottom bracket for a kick stand 

Yeah I noticed that - thought someone had just attacked the box section with a hack-saw  But that box section definitely looks the same as your puch (similar forks as well i see) - but his also has the triagular box section behind the top of the seat tube making it look like a goose - but if that kick stand cut out is original to the bike then it's definiately NOT a mongoose hmmmm.
Maybe it is some sort of ammaco after all - not one i've seen though  any ammaco experts shed any light ? Maybe it is a Puch but a different model ?
Definitely very reminicent of a late 70s goose though

scott we need more pics 

[Mattdub]

I'm no Ammaco expert ( apart from knowing the obvious mongoose link bitd ) but if Phil ( sawzall ) thinks it's one then he'll probably be right , he's been around old school bmx for quite some time  .

Scott30 , best to ask for details ref an ad for Ammacos ref colour .

Black/Gold decals would look good on many colours , white/red etc

[bobafett]

Scott - having looked through those ammaco catalogues mate it could be this 1984 Silver Star - looks very similar - hard to tell if it has that brace cos the chain wheel is in the way but it looks like something might be there ? Bloody hell that looks like a late 70's or very early 80's goose frame though ! With the year being 1984 i wonder with them being kind of a UK sister company, mongoose let them have their earlier design since they had moved onto the looptail calis n experts by then ?
Still be interesting to see some close up pics of the welds (particularly round the front gusset) and the serial number under the BB (if there is one  )
Noticed the forks look the same too
Here she is:

[bobafett]

Just to throw a final cat amongst the pigeons mate - I had a trawl through some of my mongoose picture folders on my PC and found this lil fella - it was on ebay Australia a few months back and was being sold as a "racergoose" guy said it was an 80's frame but was an australian mongoose copy from back in the day. It's got the right shape, dropouts and brace weld 

Right i'll p!ss off and leave you alone now mate so you can build your late 70's mid 80's mongoose-ammaco-racergoose-puch-special-edition-freestyle-racer