Author Topic: NOS ??'tRM f&f threads................. (Read 4650 times)

Cleedubber · « **on:** October 05, 2008, 03:47 PM »

Well I've just had a read through most of (not all...hell would take me all day) of the threads relating to this "nos F&F issue
Not getting a particularly good vibe here
I will not comment on the whole NOS issue as I dont want to get involved ( and before you wonder about my credentials with ref to NOS items; I own a 1955 Oval Beetle ......so know all about rare NOS parts !!)...and also get fed up of people abusing that accronym in the BMX arena with New Old School...WTF is that all about ??...anyway I digress
Thought I would sound the forum out first to see if I would get use out of it..re paying site supporter fee (which I happily do on all other forums I use to any degree) but threads like this dont really give me enthuiasm
I have chatted to a few guys from here and pm'd a few re buying some bits and didnt want to just come on here and buy stuff, but I have even had some static there
Please dont think I am tainting all with the same brush...far from it, I have had some positive encounters
I know most of you are probably thinking , yeah, whatever newbie....on ya way, but this is surely what anyone new to the site is seeing ??
I'm not a here today gone tomorrow kind of person, so will not make my mind up right away, but I had to voice my thoughts about how the forum is appearing to me on first impressions

Ok...let me have it

Bigfrawg · « **Reply #1 on:** October 05, 2008, 03:57 PM »

welcome mr cleedubber , nice bug ! used to have a 66 cali import ghia . i miss that car

crazycraig · « **Reply #2 on:** October 05, 2008, 03:59 PM »

NOS means new old stock on here not new old school $:-\$

MartyC · « **Reply #3 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:00 PM »

Quote from: cleedubber on October 05, 2008, 03:47 PM

Well I've just had a read through most of (not all...hell would take me all day) of the threads relating to this "nos F&F issue
Not getting a particularly good vibe here
I will not comment on the whole NOS issue as I dont want to get involved ( and before you wonder about my credentials with ref to NOS items; I own a 1955 Oval Beetle ......so know all about rare NOS parts !!)...and also get fed up of people abusing that accronym in the BMX arena with New Old School...WTF is that all about ??...anyway I digress
Thought I would sound the forum out first to see if I would get use out of it..re paying site supporter fee (which I happily do on all other forums I use to any degree) but threads like this dont really give me enthuiasm
I have chatted to a few guys from here and pm'd a few re buying some bits and didnt want to just come on here and buy stuff, but I have even had some static there
Please dont think I am tainting all with the same brush...far from it, I have had some positive encounters
I know most of you are probably thinking , yeah, whatever newbie....on ya way, but this is surely what anyone new to the site is seeing ??
I'm not a here today gone tomorrow kind of person, so will not make my mind up right away, but I had to voice my thoughts about how the forum is appearing to me on first impressions

Ok...let me have it

Well it's always nice to have new members and your timing couldn't be better. NOS = NEW OLD STOCK not New Old School, not sure where you read that interpretation but anyhow, there you go

. Read the other threads and have a good time, there's lots of good advice and fiun to be found

.

Cleedubber · « **Reply #4 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:02 PM »

Quote from: CRAZYPAVING on October 05, 2008, 03:59 PM

NOS means new old stock on here not new old school $:-\$

Yes I know, thats why I said I digress...I was just having a rant, it wasnt directed at this discussion, apologies for any misunderstanding

crazycraig · « **Reply #5 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:03 PM »

Quote from: cleedubber on October 05, 2008, 04:02 PM

Quote from: CRAZYPAVING on October 05, 2008, 03:59 PM
NOS means new old stock on here not new old school $:-\$

Yes I know, thats why I said I digress...I was just having a rant, it wasnt directed at this discussion, apologies for any misunderstanding

No worries fella !!!! Keep on buggin

WARDY · « **Reply #6 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:03 PM »

nos on here means it must come in packaging and untouched by the human hand

lazychubs · « **Reply #7 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:06 PM »

nice car ya have shame ya taste isnt the same about bikes lol

any picts of ya oval
had a few aircooled vw's meself

Cleedubber · « **Reply #8 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:07 PM »

Quote from: wardy on October 05, 2008, 04:03 PM

nos on here means it must come in packaging and untouched by the human hand

in VW circles NOS just means not ever fitted or used, it doesnt always account for condition....although you generally hope that its pretty good, but anything 50+ years old is likely to be showing some signs of age

WARDY · « **Reply #9 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:08 PM »

you have to get someone with ESP to deliver it too, if its touched its used, no good that

Cleedubber · « **Reply #10 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:11 PM »

Quote from: Lazychubs on October 05, 2008, 04:06 PM

nice car ya have shame ya taste isnt the same about bikes lol
any picts of ya oval
had a few aircooled vw's meself

Well it would be pretty shite if we all liked the same things eh.....oh and I guess you're assuming due to the fact I have 2 burners that is all I like re bike wise ??....mmmm assumptions eh

Lots of things i would love, but afraid I don't have bottom less pockets

Lots of pics of my oval thanks

You not the owner of an air cooled atm then ?

Cleedubber · « **Reply #11 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:12 PM »

Quote from: wardy on October 05, 2008, 04:08 PM

you have to get someone with ESP to deliver it too, if its touched its used, no good that

calm down......breath.....count to ten....and walk away

crazycraig · « **Reply #12 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:14 PM »

Oh dear!!!! This threads gone all wrong !!!!

jT Racing · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:15 PM »

The important part of NOS is the N. that's where the trouble seems to lie. Mint is mint, but not N. Unused is N and literally nothing else. I want to have, mount, photograph, enjoy and basically use then take off, dust off and then sell it as N again is wrong and taking the piss and there is no grey area here. NOS is also no gaurentee of condition, just ask biagio. But the use of the N is only to get your money back after you've had your use of said item is lying. That's where the friction has come from. There are a few bods on here that like to add there 2 pence worth, but the issue behind the argument remains a constant. It will remain a lie and cause friction as long as members abuse the N and the trust of the community we have built up over many years. We have to look out for each other in and amongst the scammers, even when people don't know they have been scammed. If Looking out for people is wrong, then i don't wanna to be right. AMEN

john

Cleedubber · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:17 PM »

Quote from: CRAZYPAVING on October 05, 2008, 04:14 PM

Oh dear!!!! This threads gone all wrong !!!!

Yeah has gone a little off topic but hey ho, I love a bit of banter like everyone
Its just I got the feeling things got a bit too personal in the crazy TRM threads ......where's the

Bigfrawg · « **Reply #15 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:19 PM »

preach brother preach ! i agree on the nos thing,fitted is fitted no longer nos. i think used is a better description.

Quote from: J.T.RACING on October 05, 2008, 04:15 PM

The important part of NOS is the N. that's where the trouble seems to lie. Mint is mint, but not N. Unused is N and literally nothing else. I want to have, mount, photograph, enjoy and basically use then take off, dust off and then sell it as N again is wrong and taking the piss and there is no grey area here. NOS is also no gaurentee of condition, just ask biagio. But the use of the N is only to get your money back after you've had your use of said item is lying. That's where the friction has come from. There are a few bods on here that like to add there 2 pence worth, but the issue behind the argument remains a constant. It will remain a lie and cause friction as long as members abuse the N and the trust of the community we have built up over many years. We have to look out for each other in and amongst the scammers, even when people don't know they have been scammed. If Looking out for people is wrong, then i don't wanna to be right. AMEN

john

crazycraig · « **Reply #16 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:23 PM »

Quote from: cleedubber on October 05, 2008, 04:17 PM

Quote from: CRAZYPAVING on October 05, 2008, 04:14 PM
Oh dear!!!! This threads gone all wrong !!!!

Yeah has gone a little off topic but hey ho, I love a bit of banter like everyone
Its just I got the feeling things got a bit too personal in the crazy TRM threads ......where's the

TBH i aint read the TRM threads .............

Ive been coming on here for a few years now and used to read every thread daily .I'm kinda chilled with the scene at the moment

WARDY · « **Reply #17 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:24 PM »

no Craig its right, if the package is touched he'll have the "Not nos undercover, secret meetings, morris dancing" rad cops on his back .i've just found a bug in me room, rombloke s listening in seeing how many times i've touched me nos skyway s

crazycraig · « **Reply #18 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:25 PM »

I'm lost now $:-\$ and outta this thread

jT Racing · « **Reply #19 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:26 PM »

your right, dave was just saying somthing about, wardy, touched?
now it makes sense

DIRTBIKER250F · « **Reply #20 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:31 PM »

My tuppence worth

There are over 5000 lads n Lasses all around the same age more or less, all with opinions. You dont get much love in my life experience with a count like that, banter arguments falling out part n parcel of life.
I dont think anything thats happened over the last cpl ov days says anything about anything really. Just a hot topic debated hotly, doesn't really say anything about this site or the ppl on it.

I like the hot topics, shows a passion for this kids bike hobbie we all posses, give or take a few. Long live debate and hot topics, you see how many ppl are into a hot thread and the many contributions.

If your new and are easily offended we have a readers wives section near the door that says staff only

Rad is different and good because of it, every w4nker plays their part.
Ill have a steller Newbie

Paul

Cleedubber · « **Reply #21 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:32 PM »

Quote from: J.T.RACING on October 05, 2008, 04:15 PM

The important part of NOS is the N. that's where the trouble seems to lie. Mint is mint, but not N. Unused is N and literally nothing else. I want to have, mount, photograph, enjoy and basically use then take off, dust off and then sell it as N again is wrong and taking the piss and there is no grey area here. NOS is also no gaurentee of condition, just ask biagio. But the use of the N is only to get your money back after you've had your use of said item is lying. That's where the friction has come from. There are a few bods on here that like to add there 2 pence worth, but the issue behind the argument remains a constant. It will remain a lie and cause friction as long as members abuse the N and the trust of the community we have built up over many years. We have to look out for each other in and amongst the scammers, even when people don't know they have been scammed. If Looking out for people is wrong, then i don't wanna to be right. AMEN

john

Thanks for your positive input, I couldnt have put it better and I'm sure 99.9% of peeps agree with that
All I can assume is that there is occassionaly some misunderstanding with ref to NOS items, and agree that NOS before buils/use etc is far more accurate.

NOS is not a big thing to me, I am more concerned about condition...I recently bought a bonnet for my beetle (took my a year to find one good enough) that was mint asside one tiny little bit of rust on the front lip, and I mean tiny....it had been acid dipped and had a thin coat of primer on it for protection....so nothing could be hidden by paint etc
The only reason the guy sold it was he found a NOS one...yes it was in the pile of rocking horse sh*te in the front garden of the gingerbread house

When I saw the NOS bonnet, I nearly fell over....it looked like it had been kicked about the garage....was worse condition that the one I bought (dents) but he wanted NOS.....my gain though so wasnt going to argue

Puts the whole NOS thing into perspective really IMHO

Cleedubber · « **Reply #22 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:37 PM »

Quote from: DIRTBIKER250F on October 05, 2008, 04:31 PM

My tuppence worth

There are over 5000 lads n Lasses all around the same age more or less, all with opinions. You dont get much love in my life experience with a count like that, banter arguments falling out part n parcel of life.
I dont think anything thats happened over the last cpl ov days says anything about anything really. Just a hot topic debated hotly, doesn't really say anything about this site or the ppl on it.

I like the hot topics, shows a passion for this kids bike hobbie we all posses, give or take a few. Long live debate and hot topics, you see how many ppl are into a hot thread and the many contributions.

If your new and are easily offended we have a readers wives section near the door that says staff only

Rad is different and good because of it, every w4nker plays their part.
Ill have a steller Newbie

Paul

Easily offended....yes I am...told my mum about you too

I get what you're saying and am all for banter/debate opinions etc etc
Just think its crossing the line when things get personal
Maybe I have misread things but thats how some of it read to me

WARDY · « **Reply #23 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:41 PM »

Quote from: J.T.RACING on October 05, 2008, 04:26 PM

your right, dave was just saying somthing about, wardy, touched?
now it makes sense

i was last night, fooking loved it too. ps munners aint no scammer John, looking out for peeps im all for, but slagging peeps prices i aint, how much truthfully did that kuwie cruiser cost to build?

MartyC · « **Reply #24 on:** October 05, 2008, 04:43 PM »

Quote from: wardy on October 05, 2008, 04:41 PM

Quote from: J.T.RACING on October 05, 2008, 04:26 PM
your right, dave was just saying somthing about, wardy, touched?
now it makes sense

i was last night, fooking loved it too. ps munners aint no scammer John, looking out for peeps im all for, but slagging peeps prices i aint, how much truthfully did that kuwie cruiser cost to build?

You just got the point, it's not what it cost it's what it's worth