tuff pads are disapointing when first fitted, but they bed in in with use, also if you clean your rims with alcohol wipes to take any grease off em youl feel a difference straight away, some freestyle tuff pads have a little "s" on them, they are softer compound (i think) and they work much better than other tuff pads, if ya gonna ride em, baby blue or red tuff pads seem to work the best out of all in my experience, the dia-compe blocks work well too