odyssey black widow cranks?

[thesku11s]

Was wondering if anyone has any experience with these?

Im thinking of buying some for a project, but I havent ever seen any in the flesh.

Is the spider bonded to the crankarm like sugino 3pc etc for example or is it more like a spider that you would get on a one piece crank?

Also can anyone rate them, and reccomend a good place to buy ?

Thanks.

[SaMAlex]

I think they did both styles, the early ones had the bonded on spider, the later one was removable.

I also think they are hard to get hold of?

[thesku11s]

Im guessing these are the newer ones?

https://www.jrbicycles.com/storefront/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=113

really pushing my budget, but better value than some of the alternatives for this "project" 

Need something shiny, square taper and 165mm.

[HEYWOOD BMX]

http://sourcebmx.co.uk/dyn/_products/folder4/folder4/folder3/folder1/product1/product.shtml

 Hope this helps...

           James

[Gary72]

You mean something like this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ODYSSEY-BLACK-WIDOW-CRANKS-BMX-FIXIE-SINGLE-SPEED-RETRO_W0QQitemZ320277740688QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320277740688&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

[thesku11s]

You mean something like this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ODYSSEY-BLACK-WIDOW-CRANKS-BMX-FIXIE-SINGLE-SPEED-RETRO_W0QQitemZ320277740688QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320277740688&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

yeah I saw those, thats what gave me the idea of using black widows.

But I need the polished ones.

thanks for the links anyway, will see If I can beat the Source price.

[choad666]

I would say they are built more towards children. They flex alot for bigger riders. My nephew has them on his race bike and they work well for him but I can feel them "give" when I ride his bike.

[Zippy]

They look lovely cranks but I wouldn't use them for a rider as they seemed to flex quite a bit.

I had them on my robinson and although I never used them I fitted them on and you could feel the flex in them so i took them straight off.

[generallee]

Black Widow cranks have been around for quite a while... the earlier 90's ones [i have a set here im using] didnt have a spider with them, thay are just square taper 3 piece cranks. the spider [bonded or unbonded] was a later addition to the cranks , so if youre going old mid shool, find ones without a spider or a removable spider i guess.
I think they look great no atter how people use them!

[thesku11s]

I thought having a spider would be more old school than midschool?

I could use a sugino chainring like that robinson, and it would be a setup to alloy 3pc of the 80's like the sugino,takagi etc?

But with the midschool tech look of the hard edged polished crank arms?

[HUTCHMAN]

don't know which ones i've got,made in usa,bolt on spider,175mm and they use a hexagonal spindle with sealed bearings(the bearings are pressed into the cup from the back so when all fitted to a frame,the bearings can't be seen)any ideas?

[fugazi]

don't know which ones i've got,made in usa,bolt on spider,175mm and they use a hexagonal spindle with sealed bearings(the bearings are pressed into the cup from the back so when all fitted to a frame,the bearings can't be seen)any ideas?

You have the "phat" Black Widows I think, bigger spindle, fatter arms, twin pinch bolts, very nice cranks, they don't flex!

[HUTCHMAN]

just Google'd the phat black widows,but mine are not like them.the arms are still machined out like the b/w lites and only have one pinch bolt-spindle and bearings look the same.

[choad666]

I think you might have the Black Widow Pro's. They are basically the same as the Phat only older.

[HUTCHMAN]

any idea from what era?

[choad666]

I'm not positive but I would say 94 to 2000?