Author Topic: s&m frame any ideas on which model (Read 2255 times)

333337lee · « **on:** June 24, 2008, 09:18 PM »

s&m frame any ideas on which model.

I'm more interested in old school bmx, but I managed to get this for Â£3. I'll probably be selling it once it's sandblasted & powder coated
someone grinded off the cable guide and I am not sure if there is still threads for the U brake mounts.

JT71 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 24, 2008, 09:20 PM »

I'm sure Alex will be along soon to tell you.

what canal did that come out of ?

SaMAlex · « **Reply #2 on:** June 24, 2008, 09:23 PM »

thats a "Next Gen" Dirtbike or Holmes.

What is the frame number and top tube length? Id take a guess at a dirtbike

Philbert · « **Reply #3 on:** June 24, 2008, 09:43 PM »

i'm not one to normally go up against sir alex of s&mshire but are you sure?!

i don't remember the next gens having two gussets at the top. i was thinking stricker maybe! just curious

SaMAlex · « **Reply #4 on:** June 24, 2008, 09:46 PM »

Quote from: philbert on June 24, 2008, 09:43 PM

i'm not one to normally go up against sir alex of s&mshire but are you sure?!
i don't remember the next gens having two gussets at the top. i was thinking stricker maybe! just curious

Im with you phil, I thought that myself. And having the shield in the gusset might make it later than a Next Gen.

I wouldnt say it was Stricker cos I think they had euro BBs. It might be a Black bike?

perry · « **Reply #5 on:** June 24, 2008, 10:09 PM »

my first thought was pbr $:-\$

http://www.neostore.lv/th/VS-00001588-01.jpeg

perry · « **Reply #6 on:** June 24, 2008, 10:17 PM »

dont know about that

the 2000s are more my era though

it was the angle of the dropouts that did it for me , quick "s&m pbr" into google and it was the same

i did notice a shop still selling them for £250 , so at £3 its a bargain

darkersomeday · « **Reply #7 on:** June 24, 2008, 10:26 PM »

ng dirtbike,

looks awsome as it is

i got a "tickle" just looking at it

darkersomeday · « **Reply #8 on:** June 24, 2008, 10:28 PM »

Quote from: darkersomeday on June 24, 2008, 10:26 PM

ng dirtbike,

looks awsome as it is

i got a "tickle" just looking at it

cant be joe,

ng's never had the shield on the gusset,

its a pbr

darkersomeday · « **Reply #9 on:** June 24, 2008, 10:30 PM »

early stricker?

trail version?

perry · « **Reply #10 on:** June 24, 2008, 10:33 PM »

kris bennet

what did pbr stand for anyway $:-\$

looking at bmxmuseum it would be between 2002-2004

i dont think they were that popular , ive never seen anyone with one .

darkersomeday · « **Reply #11 on:** June 24, 2008, 10:39 PM »

pabst blue ribbon,

cant be a be a bennet! no limp dick wishbone

perry · « **Reply #12 on:** June 24, 2008, 10:43 PM »

ahhhh

s&m wasnt very poplular at that point , everyone where i was had a stronger than all fetish

i kept looking at what s&m was putting out but nothing fit what i wanted so i got a metal burma instead

darkersomeday · « **Reply #13 on:** June 24, 2008, 10:48 PM »

i had a sta too, what a fooking frame eh? best bmx ever built?

pbr,

SaMAlex · « **Reply #14 on:** June 24, 2008, 10:54 PM »

Id forgoten that PBRs had a gusset top and bottom of the headtube. I think the stricker was totally the same as the PBR but it has seat stay brakes, and a euro BB.

My old PBR. I dont think it had a shield in the toptube or downtube gusset

My old Bennett

(I didnt really like either of these frames)

Lazarou · « **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2008, 10:55 PM »

Quote from: darkersomeday on June 24, 2008, 10:48 PM

i had a sta too, what a fooking frame eh? best bmx ever built?

Yep.

333337lee · « **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2008, 11:55 PM »

Top tube is 20" from centre of seat tube to centre of headset tube

I can't find a serial number where are they usually located

similar to this one on ebay but mine has a standard sized bottom bracket

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250260774696&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015

perry · « **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2008, 12:32 AM »

"i had a sta too, what a fooking frame eh? best bmx ever built?"

they shouldave come with a free can of coke as most ended up with a bit of can to cure the flaired headtube

they did get ridden into the ground though

i wouldnt give a best ever built title to something with a crimped tube though

alex are you sure it wasnt your choice of forks

SaMAlex · « **Reply #18 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:44 AM »

Quote from: 333337lee on June 24, 2008, 11:55 PM

similar to this one on ebay but mine has a standard sized bottom bracket

That one on ebay is a stricker, and the PBR was the same apart from it had a USA BB.

Looks like yours is a PBR then. It was the shield on the BB wishbone that made me think Next Gen, but the headtube gusset and dropouts are nothing like a Next Gen. My bad!

Phil was loads closer with his Stricker suggestion.

Quote from: perry on June 25, 2008, 12:32 AM

alex are you sure it wasnt your choice of forks

Yeah, Im all one for trying different stuff, but those plastic forks never held up to well

333337lee · « **Reply #19 on:** June 28, 2008, 01:28 PM »

found this PBR on an older post seems the same I was offered £25 in it's current state. I think I might build it up and try it unless I get a better offer
Thanks for all the info

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=48423.0